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GHETTOBLASTER » 11 Oct 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 10:53 am

Do you believe what you stated here is the whole truth...?

there certainly weren't torch-burning nazis on BOTH sides, that's for sure!

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 11:11 am

there certainly weren't torch-burning nazis on BOTH sides, that's for sure!

Either answer my question honestly or move on.
I don't have time for liars who don't know the difference between the whole truth and what is not.
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 11 Oct 2023, 11:24 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 11:24 am

Either answer my question honestly or move on.
I don't have time for liars who don't know the difference between the whole truth and what is not.

Honestly... Not every single, solitary person protesting the removal of Confederate statues was a torch-carrying nazi, but a great many of them were.  And ALL of the torch-carrying nazis were there, ostensibly, to protest the removal of Confederate statues - and to show off a little MAGA solidarity while they were at it.   

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 11:30 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 11:30 am

Honestly... Not every single, solitary person protesting the removal of Confederate statues was a torch-carrying nazi, but a great many of them were.  And ALL of the torch-carrying nazis were there, ostensibly, to protest the removal of Confederate statues - and to show off a little MAGA solidarity while they were at it.

You realize that it's it's Chimp Enablers and Chimp Coddlers like you who we have to thank the out of control Chimp Crime  in the USA...?
Here you are screeching about   White Supremacists who account for a scant fraction of all the trouble that your Pet Monkeys cause every day rain or shine.


 

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 10:45 am

All you are doing is baselessly insulting my integrity on nothing but your opinion.  I certainly would never call you a liar based solely upon my opinion of your politics, which is what you have done to me.  I explained why I have disliked Trump for a long time.  My admiration for John McCain comes from my time at Annapolis when he was still a POW. My distaste at Trump's stance against the Central Park Five comes from in-depth discussions with my older sister who is and was a NYC college professor at the time.  My disgust at Trump's desecration of Christian sacraments came from discussions with my ex-pat Bible Study group in Mexico.  NONE of those positions had ANYTHING to do with the media coverage of those events.

I do not routinely read ANY MSM sources and instead, rely heavily on the AP, Reuters, and the BBC.  The only broadcast news coverage I ever watch with any regularity is the PBS News Hour which is always ranked as one of the most unbiased news sources available.

If Trump were a Democrat, not only would I not defend him, more importantly, I would not vote for him.  I have, on occasion, voted for a presidential candidate other than the Democrat when my party's candidate had taken an action that I was deeply disappointed in.  I will do so in a heartbeat in the future.

Now.... one last time:  if you would like to continue discussing issues with me (my two years with the UN in the middle east might very well afford us the opportunity to delve into current bellicose events with some insightful specificity, for example), you will first need to walk back your slanderous remarks about my integrity.  The alternative is to put you on ignore, as I have done to a handful of other folks on here who can't meet minimum standards of civility.  Your call.

amazing how vernacular tribalism is used against those communicating with it by everyone debating what else is possible ignoring what was never a possibility, evolving as reproductively here exceeds living as ancestrally displaced now.

GHETTOBLASTER » 11 Oct 2023, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 11:44 am

You realize that it's it's Chimp Enablers and Chimp Coddlers like you who we have to thank the out of control Chimp Crime  in the USA...?
Here you are screeching about   White Supremacists who account for a scant fraction of all the trouble that your Pet Monkeys cause every day rain or shine.

Chimps? Monkeys?? I refuse to even attempt a rational discussion about the events in Charlottesville, or even race relations in general, when you use such prejudiced and bigoted terminology.

Goodby.
 

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm

Chimps? Monkeys?? I refuse to even attempt a rational discussion about the events in Charlottesville, or even race relations in general, when you use such prejudiced and bigoted terminology.

Goodby.

What is your stance on the following:

• Grown men in little girl's locker room
• Drag Queens reading o school children. 
• Pu8shing transgenderism onto children, even to the point of removing their genitals. 

If you support even one of the above, then you don't get to accuse others of prejudices and bigotry. You are far more repulsive. 

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm

Chimps? Monkeys?? I refuse to even attempt a rational discussion about the events in Charlottesville, or even race relations in general, when you use such prejudiced and bigoted terminology.

Goodby.
 

Moral codes of intellectual pride only exist to justify your mob rule semantics silencing anyone that dares discuss physical absolutes about evolving in plain sight.

Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:04 pm

What is your stance on the following:

• Grown men in little girl's locker room
• Drag Queens reading o school children. 
• Pu8shing transgenderism onto children, even to the point of removing their genitals. 

If you support even one of the above, then you don't get to accuse others of prejudices and bigotry. You are far more repulsive.

I am against all three and have said as much on this site on several occasions.

In regards to the first one, I was even against it when the grown man was Donald Trump and the locker room was for contestants at the Miss Universe pageant. Were you?

And... what is your stance on calling African Americans "chimps" and "monkeys"?

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm

And... what is your stance on calling African Americans "chimps" and "monkeys"?

I stand against this ^^^. I have also said that there is a significant difference between: 

• Whites vs Crackers
• Mexicans vs Beaners
• Blacks vs ***
• Asians vs Chinks. 

Anyone who disagrees is nothing more than guilty of political correctness. 

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm

I am against all three and have said as much on this site on several occasions.

In regards to the first one, I was even against it when the grown man was Donald Trump and the locker room was for contestants at the Miss Universe pageant. Were you?

And... what is your stance on calling African Americans "chimps" and "monkeys"?

Terminology describes physical attributes of ancestral lineage results occupying time inhabiting space here. Which generation gap are you in between previous generations and added generation gaps since you were born?
you in your ancestry's last generation added, parenting generation, grandparent generation, great grandparent generation, great great grandparent generation?

this is how you define a person without bias to race, creed, color, national origin, gender, economic status, character performing in an organized community theater on the world stage never accepting life is eternally separated while inhabiting the moment here.

My time evolving doesn't work by clock or calendar flowcharting outcomes for each arriving replacement.

Z09 » 11 Oct 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 2:09 pm

Donald Trump was in the locker room?

And that's why he didn't get your vote...

You're too funny Maineman..!
Biden's daughter claims he use to jump in the shower with her..

Remember?

Oh wait...
Maddow didn't discuss that

Not to mention him sniffing the hair of 11 yr old girls. 

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:00 pm

Chimps? Monkeys?? I refuse to even attempt a rational discussion about the events in Charlottesville, or even race relations in general, when you use such prejudiced and bigoted terminology.

Goodby.

Goodbye Mister Chimp Coddler.....  

Z09 » 11 Oct 2023, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 2:23 pm

Can you imagine how friggin dumb Maineman is?

He's upset that Trump walked into locker rooms but voted for Biden whose own daughter complained he was a pervert?

It's not that he is dumb. He is just your usual liberal hypocrite with the usual double standards. I don't know of one liberal that isn't a hypocrite. Not one. It's just who they are. 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 12:24 pm

I stand against this ^^^. I have also said that there is a significant difference between: 

• Whites vs Crackers
• Mexicans vs Beaners
• Blacks vs ***
• Asians vs Chinks. 

Anyone who disagrees is nothing more than guilty of political correctness.

"against it" perhaps, but in a soft, accepting sort of way when it comes from one on your team, however.

and if there IS a significant difference, doesn't that difference have to do with the sort of politeness and gentleness that should characterize our conversations with, and descriptions of other people?

Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 2:26 pm

It's not that he is dumb. He is just your usual liberal hypocrite with the usual double standards. I don't know of one liberal that isn't a hypocrite. Not one. It's just who they are.

Let me give you a quick rundown on how I was taught to make political decisions: ... be it party or candidate.  I look at the total scope of policies and philosophies.  I then compare my personal beliefs with those of the party's platform or the candidate's stated campaign priorities.  I highlight all those areas where there is disagreement.  I then prioritize those disagreements as being either line-in-the-sand, game changers, or ones that I could live with or that I don't really have a strong feeling either way.  

I listed for you several issues that I had with Donald Trump, and if I had agreed with his foreign policy priorities and his taxation philosophy and his women's health policies, or his environmental positions, perhaps what he did with the Eucharist in Council Bluffs - all by itself - could be forgiven... or what he said about my hero, John McCain, or walking into the dressing room at the Miss Universe contest to catch a free glimpse of his next piece of ***, or what he did with the Central Park Five... but the fact was, I disagreed with him on foreign policy and taxation, and women's health, and the environment AND his alienation of me with the other issues was just frosting on the cake.  

I don't like his political philosophies and I don't like his personal behavior.  And if he had not come down the golden escalator and Jeb Bush had been the 2016 nominee, I would STILL have voted for the other candidate, albeit reluctantly, because Jeb Bush was pretty lock step with Donald Trump on all those big ticket priorities/policy issues above, regardless of his vastly superior personal character.

I have one standard:  my own political philosophy and I measure every candidate and party against that.  There is NOTHING hypocritical about that in the least.

Z09 » 11 Oct 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 3:03 pm

Walking into a dressing room at Miss Universe?

But at the same time Biden's daughter said her Dad use to shower with her in her teens?????????????????????????

And that doesn't bother you..?????????????
 
And you claim it's not hypocritical.....??
Are you **** or what?

@maineman  Z09 makes a terrific point. If you can't reconcile it, then my accusation of you being a hypocrite stands. Period. 

Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 3:05 pm

@maineman  Z09 makes a terrific point. If you can't reconcile it, then my accusation of you being a hypocrite stands. Period.

She did not read or even begin to comprehend my previous post, and obviously, neither did you.  

I explained to you how I looked at the total package.  I did not FAIL to vote for Donald Trump simply because he brazenly walked into a dressing room with undressed women.... and if he had matched up with me on the vast majority of the big ticket priorities, I would have put the dressing room caper on the list of "not that big of a deal" behaviors

PLUS... We have an entire room full of pageant attendees telling one story, versus Biden's one daughter telling her story.  

PLUS... as I stated, issues of substantive policy will ALWAYS hold higher priority for me than personal proclivities.  

maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 3:13 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2023, 3:13 pm

She did not read or even begin to comprehend my previous post, and obviously, neither did you.  

I explained to you how I looked at the total package.  I did not FAIL to vote for Donald Trump simply because he brazenly walked into a dressing room with undressed women.... and if he had matched up with me on the vast majority of the big ticket priorities, I would have put the dressing room caper on the list of "not that big of a deal" behaviors

PLUS... We have an entire room full of pageant attendees telling one story, versus Biden's one daughter telling her story.  

PLUS... as I stated, issues of substantive policy will ALWAYS hold higher priority for me than personal proclivities.

How did you come to the conclusion that Biden's policies were better than Trump's. Biden has failed miserably:

• Gas didn't start rapidly rising until Biden took office. Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline. Why would you think that would be a great idea? 
• The border is not nearly as secure as it was under Trump. NYC is flooded with immigrants to the point that they wanted to declare it a city emergency. The drugs are out of control. 
• Inflation was at 9.2%. The worst it's ever been. 
• Do you even want to talk about his policy in exiting Afganistan? 

His mental condition is clearly less than competent. I have a difficult time comprehending how you think Biden is succeeding better than if Trump was president.