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Things would be so much better for everyone if we could double the population [once again] over the next 60 years.....


 

RedheadedStranger » 10 Oct 2023, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 9:52 am

That's funny because at some point I find myself in disagreement with just about everybody over one thing or another.

I guess that's just the super secret neocon in me huh?

Figure it out  
 

RebelGator » 10 Oct 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 9:45 am

Don't think so.......it's genetic.

I find that I'm diametrically opposed to every policy, position, and thought that enters a liberal's head.

A liberal's brain is deformed, what they're working with is all that's left.

      ...Yes, Libs are retards.  Also...

I find that I'm diametrically opposed to every policy, position, and thought that enters a NEOCON'S head.

A NEOCON'S brain is deformed, what they're working with is all that's left.
 

Massacre all these **** animals. Muslims suck. Send them to hell.

Kobia2 » 10 Oct 2023, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 7:51 am

   
         The fact is the residents of Gaza freely elected Hamas to power in 2006, and the majority still support the organization both politically & militarily today... The Gazan residents & Hamas are 1 in the same...  

Very true!  I don't absolve anyone when they get the government they voted for.
Was there a single Palestinian who didn't know what Hamas was when they voted for them?
Now, just like we in the US are stuck with the result of stupid Democrats who voted for Biden, Gaza is stuck with the terrorist group they elected, and the consequences will be that thousands will be killed, probably tens of thousands injured and homeless, and their piss-poor economy will suffer even more hardship.

Elections have consequences, and often expose the ignorance of the populace.
No sympathy here!
 

Zeets2 » 10 Oct 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 11:38 am

Very true!  I don't absolve anyone when they get the government they voted for.
Was there a single Palestinian who didn't know what Hamas was when they voted for them?
Now, just like we in the US are stuck with the result of stupid Democrats who voted for Biden, Gaza is stuck with the terrorist group they elected, and the consequences will be that thousands will be killed, probably tens of thousands injured and homeless, and their piss-poor economy will suffer even more hardship.

Elections have consequences, and often expose the ignorance of the populace.
No sympathy here!

           They knew exactly what they were getting, 
as Hamas is an Islamic based movement that was spawned from the Gaza Chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.. Al the Hamas Founder was in the MB... THe majority in Gaza also supported Hamas when they amended their Charter to include the creation of an Islamic State, where the Jewish State of Israel now stands.. 
 

1,800 rockets hit Jizzrael.

Where was the Iron Tranny Dome??

Zeets2 » 10 Oct 2023, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 11:38 am

Very true!  I don't absolve anyone when they get the government they voted for.
Was there a single Palestinian who didn't know what Hamas was when they voted for them?
Now, just like we in the US are stuck with the result of stupid Democrats who voted for Biden, Gaza is stuck with the terrorist group they elected, and the consequences will be that thousands will be killed, probably tens of thousands injured and homeless, and their piss-poor economy will suffer even more hardship.

Elections have consequences, and often expose the ignorance of the populace.
No sympathy here!

I feel bad for the innocent people. Who always seem to get murdered or  beheaded for the games of these people in power.
It is sickening!
I also wonder who these cruel terrorist men are?
what kind of nuts are they?
I don't know any man who would do these things. my mind can not understand this!
 

Sumela » 10 Oct 2023, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 12:17 pm

1,800 rockets hit Jizzrael.

Where was the Iron Tranny Dome??

I read that 5000 were fired so, I guess that means there were a whole lot of duds, or the Iron Dome stopped way more than what got through.
 

Majik » 10 Oct 2023, 8:31 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 8:31 am

No, that is a distortion of what actually took place .......
The fact is the residents of Gaza elected  Hamas to power with the threat of death by Hamas hanging over their heads ....
The people of  Gaza were predominantly aligned with Fatah and Arafat until his death in 2004....
The Fatah-Hamas conflict in 2006 was a bloody politrical evolution ......which Hamas won due to their brutality against Palestinians whom opposed them.
Fatah–Hamas conflict

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E ... s_conflict

             The results of the 2006 election between Hamas and Fatah in Gaza, along with opinion from International Observers, the EU and Arab League were as follows ...........   They did not bully or strongarm the Gazan residents into electoral support... And as Hamas amended its charters and became a more violent Islamic movement which called for the annihilation of Israel, the people of Gaza maintained their support of Hamas... 

              Hamas won 76 seats, excluding four won by independents supporting Hamas, and Fatah only 43.[140] The election was judged by international observers to have been "competitive and genuinely democratic". The EU said that they had been run better than elections in some members countries of the union, and promised to maintain its financial support.[136] Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates urged the US to give Hamas a chance, and that it was inadvisable to punish Palestinians for their choice, a position also endorsed by the Arab League a month later.[1

            

Neo » 10 Oct 2023, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 8:27 am

We elected Biden...just saying

           and in less than 2 years, the majority no longer supported Biden.... 17 years later in Gaza, the majority still supports Hamas.

Kobia2 » 10 Oct 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 12:35 pm

           and in less than 2 years, the majority no longer supported Biden.... 17 years later in Gaza, the majority still supports Hamas.

Not true. They have 10 different parties, we have 2. Gaza has never given Hamas majority support. 
 

Neo » 10 Oct 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 12:47 pm

Not true. They have 10 different parties, we have 2. Gaza has never given Hamas majority support.

     This is from my post #31.....
These were the 2006 Election Results..... I am not aware of Gaza having some Electoral College system they go by, so in order to have won the majority of those seats, they would have had Majority support...

           Hamas won 76 seats, excluding four won by independents supporting Hamas, and Fatah only 43.[140] The election was judged by international observers to have been "competitive and genuinely democratic". The EU said that they had been run better than elections in some members countries of the union, and promised to maintain its financial support.[136] Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates urged the US to give Hamas a chance, and that it was inadvisable to punish Palestinians for their choice, a position also endorsed by the Arab League a month later.[1

All 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council
67 seats needed for a majority
Party    Leader    %    Seats    +/–
Hamas    Ismail Haniyeh    44.45    74    New
Fatah    Farouk Kaddoumi    41.43    45    -5
PFLP    Ahmad Sa'adat    4.25    3    New
The Alternative    Qais Abd al-Karim    2.92    2    New
Independent Palestine    Mustafa Barghouti    2.72    2    New
Third Way    Salam Fayyad    2.41    2    New
Independents    –    –    4    -31

Prime Minister before    Prime Minister after
Ahmed Qurei
Fatah    Ismail Haniyeh
Hamas
Politics of Palestine

Officeholders whose status is disputed are shown in italics
Arab League Member state of the Arab League

Government
National symbols
Legislative Council
Elections
Administrative divisions
Foreign relations
flag Palestine portal
Other countries
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Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order
 

Kobia2 » 10 Oct 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 12:53 pm

     This is from my post #31.....
These were the 2006 Election Results..... I am not aware of Gaza having some Electoral College system they go by, so in order to have won the majority of those seats, they would have had Majority support...

           Hamas won 76 seats, excluding four won by independents supporting Hamas, and Fatah only 43.[140] The election was judged by international observers to have been "competitive and genuinely democratic". The EU said that they had been run better than elections in some members countries of the union, and promised to maintain its financial support.[136] Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates urged the US to give Hamas a chance, and that it was inadvisable to punish Palestinians for their choice, a position also endorsed by the Arab League a month later.[1

All 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council
67 seats needed for a majority
Party    Leader    %    Seats    +/–
Hamas    Ismail Haniyeh    44.45    74    New
Fatah    Farouk Kaddoumi    41.43    45    -5
PFLP    Ahmad Sa'adat    4.25    3    New
The Alternative    Qais Abd al-Karim    2.92    2    New
Independent Palestine    Mustafa Barghouti    2.72    2    New
Third Way    Salam Fayyad    2.41    2    New
Independents    –    –    4    -31

Prime Minister before    Prime Minister after
Ahmed Qurei
Fatah    Ismail Haniyeh
Hamas
Politics of Palestine

Officeholders whose status is disputed are shown in italics
Arab League Member state of the Arab League

Government
National symbols
Legislative Council
Elections
Administrative divisions
Foreign relations
flag Palestine portal
Other countries
vte
Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order

It's strong support, it's not majority support. My sympathies are muted by just how strongly they are supported. 
 

sootedupCyndi » 10 Oct 2023, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 12:19 pm

 Who always seem to get murdered or  beheaded...

No one is getting beheaded.  
 

LincolnNebraska » 10 Oct 2023, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 1:18 pm

No one is getting beheaded.

I do not like it!
Do you like to see cruel men- doing this crap to women and children?
what if it was me- would you come to save me?  
 

sootedupCyndi » 10 Oct 2023, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 1:28 pm

I do not like it!
Do you like to see cruel men- doing this crap to women and children?
what if it was me- would you come to save me?

You don't like something that is not happening?

LincolnNebraska » 10 Oct 2023, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 1:18 pm

No one is getting beheaded.

               https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/hamas-kil ... tz-report/

        Hamas kills 40 babies and children — beheading some of them — at Israeli kibbutz: report

       
 

Kobia2 » 10 Oct 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 1:44 pm

              https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/hamas-kil ... port/Hamas kills 40 babies and children — beheading some of them — at Israeli kibbutz: report

Israel reported that.  No evidence.  

Sumela » 10 Oct 2023, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 10:06 am

      ...Yes, Libs are retards.  Also...

I find that I'm diametrically opposed to every policy, position, and thought that enters a NEOCON'S head.

A NEOCON'S brain is deformed, what they're working with is all that's right.

Fixed it for you.