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Hank » 19 Oct 2023, 10:29 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2023, 10:29 pm

What chance does an ant have when fighting the heel of a boot?

Funny you should mention ants. The issue is not between AN ant, and a heel of A boot. 

It is between and ant's NEST, and the heels of TWO boots - israel's and the USA's.

Israel is entirely dependent of you progressive neocon socialists here in America for its economy - and thanks to you progressive neocon socialists, America's economy is crumbling. We DO still have a large and well funded military - but that stops cold when china and russia enter on the side of the ants - because the world will stop buying our debt. And there goes all that military funding. 

Not to mention, we have a woke gay-and-tranny military that is focused on feelings - not war. We have affirmative action leadership. Fighting people on camels? We're pretty good at that. But when the big boys come out to play, georgie porgey is way too gay. 

This could be the end of the NATO alliance. Dragging them into a war with russia - and blowing up our ally's critical infrastructure to FORCE them to be our customer INSTEAD of russia's - that was one thing. A very bad thing. But dragging them into a middle east war is likely going to be that last straw people talk about. 

You progressive socialist neocons are foolish and complacent. You think beating Grenada over and over and over means we are the world's bad asses, in heels with pronouns. We aren't.

There are entire armies out there in which the men still HAVE their balls and DON'T wear heels and DON'T cry about pronouns. And when America's sissy armies bumps into real men who are not riding camels, you girls' mouths are going to stop flapping and start screaming like the sissies your mamas raised.
 
 

Continued from my last post above

THE ISRAELI - HAMAS WAR, IN THE NEWS:

Hamas Says It Treats Foreign Hostages as Guests, Will Release When Safe - Newsweek

Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei in chilling threat to US as wider conflict fears grow - Mirror Online (mirror dot co dot uk)

They followed evacuation orders -- an Israeli airstrike killed them the next day - CNN

Joe Biden’s Middle East summit was cancelled after hospital strike - AOL

Israel Gaza: Biden's visit was a high-stakes gamble - Yahoo News

Israeli protesters mobilise to help survivors of Hamas attack but anger at Netanyahu remains - Reuters

Biden warns Israel against occupying Gaza as ground invasion appears near - CNN Politics

Joe Biden called for restraint as Israel geared up for war with Hamas - Telegraph dot co dot uk

Gaza families ordered south return home, say nowhere is safe from Israeli bombs - Reuters

Netanyahu's Office Deletes Controversial Social Media Post Amid Gaza Hospital Explosion Controversy - Benzinga

President Joe Biden Told Netanyahu Gaza City Hospital Strike ‘Done By The Other Team’ - Yahoo

Why U.S. Intel Says Israel Did Not Attack Gaza Hospital - Newsweek

Israel will let Egypt deliver some aid to Gaza, as doctors struggle to treat hospital blast victims - ABC News

In Israel visit, Biden balances US support with calls for restraint in Gaza - AL Monitor dot com ( Independent, trusted coverage of the Middle East)

US Navy destroyer in Red Sea shoots down cruise missiles potentially headed toward Israel: Pentagon - Yahoo

Drones attack a US military base in southern Syria and there are minor injuries, US officials say - The Washington Post

US troops attacked in Iraq, Syria and on alert for more strikes - Reuters

Israel-Hamas war hostages: What history reveals about the current Israeli hostage crisis - Vox

State Department confirms 32 Americans are dead in the Israel-Hamas war - MSNBC

Fact Check: IDF did not share Facebook post taking responsibility for Gaza hospital strike - Reuters

Biden’s Influence Turns Israel's Ground War Plans Into ‘Something Different’ - Yahoo News

I Can’t Breathe. Do You Remember That?’: First Black Miss Israel Attacks ‘Black Lives Matter’ Movement for Not Condemning Hamas - Yahoo

Hamas, Iran, Syria, Russia and China – a formidable axis is forming against the West - INews dot co dot uk

Gaza hospital: What video, pictures and other evidence tell us about Al-Ahli hospital blast - BBC News

Disinformation surge threatens to fuel Israel-Hamas conflict - Reuters
 
 

B.See » 10 Oct 2023, 8:12 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 8:12 pm

Israelis have a right to exist peacefully in a free and independent state. But so do Palestinians.

Yet in your very next post, you will call for war against them, and demonize them as anti-democratic/authoritarian. 

You will further characterize israel, the US, and the other usual suspects as democratic. That claim in particular is against all evidence. If we were DEMOCRATIC, then what DC does would roughly approximate the will of the people. 

Oh, we DO provide socialized medicine and socialized higher education. Just not for OUR people. We provide that for israelis. 

And we DO let people choose whether to be experimentally "vaccinated" - no strings, no harassment, no threats. Just not OUR people. That is reserved for asylum seekers, who are embedded at public expense without vaccines all over the country. 

The USA is an oligarchical kleptocracy in its death throes. The war that you call for against "authoritarians" will be our undoing. 
 
 
 

Hank » 19 Oct 2023, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2023, 10:20 pm

Im only seeing two options for the Palestinians. 
Leave 
Or
Die

No ideology is needed when weighing those two options. 
 

Metaphors of heart, mind, body, soul define what? a character role model or ancestor understanding life's limitations when physically displaced as a reproduction never duplicating their form since conceived in series parallel time as every other reproduction off the food chain in this atmosphere.
Hoping it isn't taking place does what to each person in the same situation?

Misery loves company punishing anyone not complying to ideas now isn't eternity.

IN RECENT HEADLINES FROM THE ISRAELI - HAMAS WAR, CALLS TO GIVE PEACE A CHANCE:

Biden vows American support for Israel, Ukraine in Oval Office address - Yahoo News

Right out of the Hitler playbook!" Martina Navratilova calls out the public dehumanization of the Palestinians amid war with Israel – FirstSportz

Cairo Peace Summit demands ‘ceasefire’ and increased aid for Gaza - Euronews

Israel Launches Strike on Hamas Tunnel To Stop 'Imminent Terror Attack' - Newsweek

Two young Palestinian women died in a Gaza church, treated like 'human animals': op-ed - Religion News dot com

Celebrities sign letter to Biden urging de-escalation and cease-fire in Gaza - NPR

Pro-Palestine protesters march in London and across UK asking for ceasefire in Gaza - AOL

Horror as bodies of 20 children found 'tied together' in neighbourhood near Gaza - Express dot co dot uk

Amnesty Probe Finds ;Damning Evidence of War Crimes' by Israel in Gaza - Common Dreams

Day of rage’ erupts across West Bank after Israeli forces attack refugee camp - The Guardian

Saudi Prince condemns violence in Israel-Hamas conflict - Telegraph dot co dot uk

Captured Hamas weapons hint that if Israeli forces invade Gaza, they could face a deadly improvised bomb that US troops feared in Iraq - Business Insider

Israel to ‘hand control of Gaza back to Palestinian Authority’ once Hamas wiped out - AOL (hmmm... we'll see)

Benjamin Netanyahu is walking right into Hamas’s trap by Jonathan Freedland - The Guardian

Israel to step up strikes on Gaza – DW dot com

Blinken at U.N. emphasizes need to release hostages, protect civilians in Israel-Hamas war - CBS News

Israel-Palestinian conflict: Life in the Gaza Strip - BBC dot co dot uk

Turkey's Gaza protests continue as Erdogan warns Israel against ground invasion - Al-Monitor dot com

U.S. warship intercepted Yemen missiles potentially headed towards Israel: NPR

Our Death Is Pending.’ Stories of Loss and Grief From Gaza - Yahoo dot com

Former US congressman says family members killed in Gaza church blast - The Guardian

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IN RECENT HEADLINES FROM THE ISRAELI - HAMAS WAR, CALLS TO GIVE PEACE A CHANCE:

Israel-Hamas war spiraling out of control as China deploys warships to Middle East - Express dot co dot uk

First humanitarian aid reaches Gaza after 2 weeks of Israel-Hamas war - Yahoo

French intelligence points to Palestinian rocket for Gaza hospital blast, official says - Los Angeles Times

Biden speaks with Netanyahu about hostages release, Gaza humanitarian assistance - ABC News

Jewish peace activists across the US call for immediate ceasefire and justice for Palestinians - CNN

Foreign Reporters Burst Into Tears During IDF Screening of Hamas’ Atrocities - Yahoo

NY Times story confirms that Netanyahu kept Hamas in power - Dailykos

Israel-Hamas war: Israelis feel abandoned by Netanyahu after October 7 - Vox

24 Military Personnel Wounded in Drone Strikes on U.S. Military Bases - NBC News

DEALING WITH DISINFORMATION:

Even now, key GOP voices keep pretending the Iran deal didn’t work - MSNBC

What the former president and Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee have failed to appreciate is that the JCPOA policy was working — and Trump made matters worse when he abandoned it.

Viral Video Does Not Show Pro-Palestine Penn Students Chanting 'We Want Jewish Genocide' - Snopes dot com

PolitiFact: The Wall Street Journal didn’t report that an American missile caused deadly Gaza hospital blast - Politifact dot com

Fact check: Fakes surrounding the Gaza hospital blast – DW dot com

Fact Check: Video of Joe Biden calling for a military draft was created with AI - Reuters

THE GOP's LIES About Biden 'At the Beach While Americans Still Being Held Hostage by Hamas' Are So Blatant that Even Fox News Had to Rebut Them - Dailykos
 

Israel is a manipulative eugenics classing and grouping feudal monarchy that has been created-subsidized by the USA in a situation that tends to be 180 backwards of USA individual freedom and religious freedom laws, etc.

Feudal monarchical group control vs life, liberty, property and individual contract negotiation capability's, etc.

I must say it was with great relief that I witnessed both sides of the Israeli-Hamas war manage a cessation to the ongoing death, horror, and destruction, if even for a brief while, as I believe it was (a relief) for (much of) the world.

But seems the extremists on both sides of the conflict couldn't WAIT to get back to the war they both seem hell bent upon continuing, as I'd suggested in my op, and as also touched upon in a recent broadcast of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (air date Nov. 12), and one that has since generated a certain degree of blowback, not surprisingly because there are many sides to the discussion.

Still it was interesting to see what "bedfellows" the war has generated. Interesting to see that some, who've long ignored and in some instances even supported the rise in hate based vitriol and xenophobic sentiment, are now wondering, for example, why so many Nazis are supporting Palestinians (as if Nazis EVER needed an excuse to hate Jews - or anyone else for that matter).

Interesting to see how the conflict (and the ensuing debate) has embroiled students at college campuses, inspired protests in support of either side,

TROUBLING to see the even greater increase in anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim expressions of hate and acts of violence here in America, though NOT surprising because that kind of MENTALITY had already begun to infest our society (we know why)

And curious to see those who've defended, excused, and/or ignored war crimes perpetrated against civilians in other conflicts, speaking of atrocities now.

Curious because the bottom line is, the murder of civilians, women, and children are WAR CRIMES -

whether they be Israeli children, Palestinian children, or Ukrainian children. Criminally abhorrent all the same. And those who'd deny it are hypocrites... though they'd not admit it.

Instead, they'd put words into our mouths and tell us what we'll say, defend, and believe in, because that's easier than dealing with their own incongruities.
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2023, 5:11 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2023, 5:11 pm

Because everything was peachy for them before this.   

israel made it as hard for  the  people in gaza as  it could and this is before 10-.7.

all with the blessing of america because the jews are God's chosen people, (not my beliefs).

jerrab » 02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm

israel made it as hard for  the  people in gaza as  it could and this is before 10-.7.

all with the blessing of america because the jews are God's chosen people, (not my beliefs).

I hear you. Agreed.

Xavier_Onassis » 10 Oct 2023, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 8:56 am

What is obvious is that Netanyahu  has proven that he was incompetent to see that Hamas was clearly planning this, stockpiling weapons and manufacturing thousands of rockets. His ultra right wing government has endangered the Israeli people.

or 'net saw the  advantage of an  attack that would give israel an excuse  to finally kill everyone in gaza.

and that is what is happening right  now.

it is sooooo obvious that israel is using this in it's favor.

jerrab » 02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm

israel made it as hard for  the  people in gaza as  it could and this is before 10-.7.

all with the blessing of america because the jews are God's chosen people, (not my beliefs).

Sir, I disagree.  WASH DC couldnt give 2 **** about anything spiritual.
WASH DC props up Pissrael because its a US
military base in the middle east.  Its all about power projection.
 

Sumela » 02 Dec 2023, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 8:57 pm

Sir, I disagree.  WASH DC couldnt give 2 **** about anything spiritual.
WASH DC props up Pissrael because its a US
military base in the middle east.  Its all about power projection.

I was not talking about washington, but people in america.

jerrab » 02 Dec 2023, 8:59 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 8:59 pm

I was not talking about washington, but people in america.

ok, thats a fair assessment.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 10 Oct 2023, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2023, 8:56 am

What is obvious is that Netanyahu  has proven that he was incompetent to see that Hamas was clearly planning this, stockpiling weapons and manufacturing thousands of rockets. His ultra right wing government has endangered the Israeli people.

Like you know anything the tv hasn't told you. Today, Americans are the most mis-informed people on the planet thanks to their gullibility and the lying media.

Sumela » 02 Dec 2023, 9:09 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 9:09 pm

ok, thats a fair assessment.

like the fake christians

jerra b » 02 Dec 2023, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 9:20 pm

like the fake christians

Like you know **** about Christians.

jerra b » 02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Dec 2023, 5:54 pm

israel made it as hard for  the  people in gaza as  it could and this is before 10-.7.

all with the blessing of america because the jews are God's chosen people, (not my beliefs).

Collective choices have a compound affect on everyone sharing a separate ideology believe now isn't eternity within one species ancestrally eliminating each other over which ideology governs global economic values per realities define by power of suggesting genetics aren't eternally separating repfoductions limited to adapting as displaced one at a time now.

Thermodynamics covers the principles to how compounding chromosome only as displaced since conceived regardless original inception or continuous conceptions changing total sum population alive now as exact lineages combined.

Nostradamus' omh » 03 Dec 2023, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

03 Dec 2023, 10:11 am

Collective choices have a compound affect on everyone sharing a separate ideology believe now isn't eternity within one species ancestrally eliminating each other over which ideology governs global economic values per realities define by power of suggesting genetics aren't eternally separating repfoductions limited to adapting as displaced one at a time now.

Thermodynamics covers the principles to how compounding chromosome only as displaced since conceived regardless original inception or continuous conceptions changing total sum population alive now as exact lineages combined.

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