Why is it so easy to call Hamas terrorists when we do the same things?

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13 Oct 2023 9:10 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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13 Oct 2023 12:21 pm
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Cuz MerQans love to have enemies...we have been trained

to salivate if WASH DC calls a world leader a ..."butcher"...madman".

We lose it. Fists up our asses...barking, howling. Spread DumbOcracy!

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13 Oct 2023 12:23 pm
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Hate is your God you sick ****.  

Your run down trailer park is not Allah's fault.

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13 Oct 2023 12:26 pm
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maineman » 13 Oct 2023, 12:17 pm » wrote: The difference is, we didn't invade anyone on 9/11.  You specificaly said we had.  

We didn't invade anyone on December 7th, 1941 either, and if you had said we had, I would have questioned that as well.

 
Siggghhhhh....okay semantic Nazi. What would you like me to call it so you can rest easier?
Your opinion about the border is another one of your opinions.  I don't really place much value on any of them, for good reason.
I don't place any value on yours either, for good reason. You are uniformed. You have contradicted yourself twice now: 
  1. You still can't reconcile the difference between military defense vs military offense. 
  2. Now you are making up vague crap about the border. Unless you want that threat completely terminated, then you have no ground to stand on in regards to 'ascertaining threats.'
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13 Oct 2023 1:27 pm
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 12:26 pm » wrote: Siggghhhhh....okay semantic Nazi. What would you like me to call it so you can rest easier?

I don't place any value on yours either, for good reason. You are uniformed. You have contradicted yourself twice now: 
  1. You still can't reconcile the difference between military defense vs military offense. 
  2. Now you are making up vague crap about the border. Unless you want that threat completely terminated, then you have no ground to stand on in regards to 'ascertaining threats.'

I have never contradicted myself.  As I have stated, the military assets of the Department of Defense can be used for Offensive or Defensive actions.  The former is most often done in furtherance of a diplomatic initiative, the latter in response to threats or actions taken against us.

No threat can ever completely be eliminated.  I have no desire to close our borders.  We have always been a country of immigrants and I refuse to support the cessation of that.
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13 Oct 2023 1:45 pm
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ...some dark and evil **** to other countries in the name of oil....
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You're a hack !

Other than Switzerland what country hasn't done evil **** ?

Remember when America was going to get all that Iraqi oil after the war...
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13 Oct 2023 2:01 pm
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Z09 » 13 Oct 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: Did we ever get a drop?
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.Probably from the company that got it....at a inflated price.
 
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13 Oct 2023 2:02 pm
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Huh, and here I thought he was catholic...
 
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RedheadedStranger » 13 Oct 2023, 11:01 am » wrote: Biden is a catlick.

I'm sure you hate them too.

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don't Neonazis hate everyone?
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maineman » 13 Oct 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: I am not deflecting anything.  I firmly believe in the assets of the Department of Defense being used as a muscular arm of our nation's foreign policy.  The world is a dangerous and violent place. We cannot exist as a nation if we are incapable of defending ourselves and defending our national interests around the world.  If we refused to participate in conflicts overseas that impact our national interest and, instead, withdrew to behind our own national borders and let the world come unglued without us taking any steps to avert that, simply waiting for the nasty old world to come calling at OUR borders and take our stand there, we would certainly be doing exactly that sooner than later.  This globe is a connected place, and we cannot be isolationists and expect the rest of the world to forget we're here.

And, for someone as naive as you are, you really like to unilaterally claim victory a lot, don't you? Image
we aren't even defending our national interests at home, aka southern border...
 
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MackTheFinger » 13 Oct 2023, 1:45 pm » wrote: .
You're a hack !

Other than Switzerland what country hasn't done evil **** ?

Remember when America was going to get all that Iraqi oil after the war...

LOL! Yeah, okay. We are perfect. We are God's angel from heaven. 
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13 Oct 2023 2:16 pm
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maineman » 13 Oct 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: I have never contradicted myself.  As I have stated, the military assets of the Department of Defense can be used for Offensive or Defensive actions.  The former is most often done in furtherance of a diplomatic initiative, the latter in response to threats or actions taken against us.

No threat can ever completely be eliminated.  I have no desire to close our borders.  We have always been a country of immigrants and I refuse to support the cessation of that.

We can be a nation of immigrants with a closed border. People are just now forced to come in the legal way. What is wrong with that?
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13 Oct 2023 2:37 pm
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: LOL! Yeah, okay. We are perfect. We are God's angel from heaven.
We pay very bad men to do unspeakable things to defend our nation. No one is claiming we are angels. We don't conduct special operations against a concert full of innocent kids. 
 
 
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Neo » 13 Oct 2023, 2:37 pm » wrote: We pay very bad men to do unspeakable things to defend our nation. No one is claiming we are angels. We don't conduct special operations against a concert full of innocent kids.

Yeah. Instead we bomb them. Therefore, obviously we are on the moral high ground. 
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13 Oct 2023 2:39 pm
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Z09 » 13 Oct 2023, 2:18 pm » wrote: In Massachusetts one of the Democrats just said...

"The border is totally secure"
Guess they are volunteering for more busses. We should have been sending illegal aliens north for decades, the wall would have been built by Clinton if not Carter. 
 
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13 Oct 2023 2:40 pm
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 2:38 pm » wrote: Yeah. Instead we bomb them. Therefore, obviously we are on the moral high ground.
We don't intentionally bomb civilian targets. We spend trillions minimizing collateral damage. 
 
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Neo » 13 Oct 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: We don't intentionally bomb civilian targets. We spend trillions minimizing collateral damage.

Like I said to Skans and Mainman who also said this copout, if we didn't involve ourselves into conflicts that has nothing to do with our national security, then we wouldn't need to worry about spending trillions on minimizing collateral damage in the first place. Intentional or not, the end result of civilians is the same..death and fear. Your view would stand if we were involved in a conflict that was in the name of our own defense. But we aren't. Therefore, the civilian death toll, be it intentional or not, makes our actions equally barbaric. 
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 2:16 pm » wrote: We can be a nation of immigrants with a closed border. People are just now forced to come in the legal way. What is wrong with that?

I think it is heartless, un-Christian, and un-American to turn asylum seekers away from the door.

But that's just my opinion... and the opinion of several Biblical authors as well:  https://www.ucc.org/justice_immigration ... is%20place…”
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13 Oct 2023 2:48 pm
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Vegas » 13 Oct 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: We are perfect.=15px,
I never said that !  Your words not might !

The only Japs there were not killed in the South Pacific were the wounded that could not resist...the Marines didn't take prisoners.  Because they would come out with thier hands up and a rice picker would run out of a hiden point and throw a grenade.

How many slaughters have you read about Native Americans doing to the EUROs ?  Musta never happened !

Like pro-wrestling...Vegas tries a reversal, but folks it looks like it's not going to work.
 
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MackTheFinger » 13 Oct 2023, 2:48 pm » wrote: I never said that !  Your words not might !

The only Japs there were not killed in the South Pacific were the wounded that could not resist...the Marines didn't take prisoners.  Because they would come out with thier hands up and a rice picker would run out of a hiden point and throw a grenade.

How many slaughters have you read about Native Americans doing to the EUROs ?  Musta never happened !

Like pro-wrestling...Vegas tries a reversal, but folks it looks like it's not going to work.

It wasn't a reversal. I was being sarcastic to your naive claim that America is innocent. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
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maineman » 13 Oct 2023, 2:44 pm » wrote: I think it is heartless, un-Christian, and un-American to turn asylum seekers away from the door.

But that's just my opinion... and the opinion of several Biblical authors as well:  https://www.ucc.org/justice_immigration ... is%20place…”

Is it heartless, un-Christain, and un-American to want to accept legal immigrants instead of illegal ones, so we can make sure that we aren't going to get killed?
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