Hamas blocking Palestinians from getting out of harms way.

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By *rippy38
15 Oct 2023 8:07 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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15 Oct 2023 8:07 pm
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"Freedom Fighters" in action...

https://x.com/IAFsite/status/1713246847123296557?s=20

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15 Oct 2023 9:55 pm
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That’s why Hamas is responsible for every single casualty in Gaza.
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15 Oct 2023 9:59 pm
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Seeing it on twitter is pretty much the same as being there to watch it with my own eyes.

I have no reason to doubt it and every reason to shout it to the winds as revealed gospel truth. 

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RedheadedStranger » 15 Oct 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: "Freedom Fighters" in action...
That reminds me of the time I went into my old bar hangout and a guy there said to me...

Man you are a drunk...every time I come in here I see you.
 
 
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               Just the fact the Israelis are letting the civilians know in advance, you good people need to clear out --- because we'll be leveling this **** in the extremely near future, is far more humane than the way Hamas targeted civilians without warning... 
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16 Oct 2023 6:54 am
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IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
When a country is invaded by a foreign power, the only sane response is to retaliate with massive, overwhelming, disproportionate force. And when an invader commits the kinds of atrocities that we have seen over the last week, unprecedented in modern times, vengeance must be the order of the day.

War is a terrible thing. But the Gazans started this war, and war is what they are going to get. Every resulting casualty should be laid at the foot of Hamas and all Gazans who have supported and collaborated with Hamas–a large majority, by all indications.

But there is something else going on, something beyond even Israel’s need to win the war or the entirely appropriate desire to exact revenge. The Palestinians, and Gazans in particular, have the sickest culture on Earth. Little productive work is done; Gaza exists largely as the beneficiary of international welfare. Instead of goods and services, the main product of Gaza is ideology–the perverted ideology of Jew-hatred.

Of all the appalling images that have emerged from Israel and Gaza, this one may be the most chilling. A captured Israeli boy who appears to be around six or seven years old is tormented by Palestinian children:

The inhuman heartlessness of these Palestinian children is the product of their education and upbringing. Gazan children are taught that killing Jews is the highest human achievement and religious duty. They are taught that they must wipe Israel off the map. In fact, in their schools they are given maps on which Israel has already ceased to exist. They are not reared to pursue gainful occupations, enrich their communities or enjoy the arts. They are reared to hate, and to kill, Jews–all the Jews who live “from the river to the sea.”

Israel has learned through bitter experience that it does little good to decapitate Gaza’s political leadership, Hamas. As long as Gaza’s sick culture exists, new leaders will be easy to find and the society’s perverted aims will be pursued. So the ultimate objective of Israel’s current military effort should be to destroy the culture that has rendered Gaza an implacable foe.

How do you destroy a culture? For starters, you discredit it. The surviving residents of Gaza must be made to understand that their ideology of Jew-hatred has been a catastrophic failure and a comprehensive disaster that has brought them nothing but ruin. In the future, anyone who tries to resurrect the idea of Gaza as a terrorist state should be treated as a post-WWII German who argued for bringing back the Nazi Party and marching on Germany’s neighbors would have been.

More than this may ultimately be necessary, but the first task is to make Gaza pay in full for its crimes.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php
 
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16 Oct 2023 6:56 am
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IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
When a country is invaded by a foreign power, the only sane response is to retaliate with massive, overwhelming, disproportionate force. And when an invader commits the kinds of atrocities that we have seen over the last week, unprecedented in modern times, vengeance must be the order of the day.

War is a terrible thing. But the Gazans started this war, and war is what they are going to get. Every resulting casualty should be laid at the foot of Hamas and all Gazans who have supported and collaborated with Hamas–a large majority, by all indications.

But there is something else going on, something beyond even Israel’s need to win the war or the entirely appropriate desire to exact revenge. The Palestinians, and Gazans in particular, have the sickest culture on Earth. Little productive work is done; Gaza exists largely as the beneficiary of international welfare. Instead of goods and services, the main product of Gaza is ideology–the perverted ideology of Jew-hatred.

Of all the appalling images that have emerged from Israel and Gaza, this one may be the most chilling. A captured Israeli boy who appears to be around six or seven years old is tormented by Palestinian children:

The inhuman heartlessness of these Palestinian children is the product of their education and upbringing. Gazan children are taught that killing Jews is the highest human achievement and religious duty. They are taught that they must wipe Israel off the map. In fact, in their schools they are given maps on which Israel has already ceased to exist. They are not reared to pursue gainful occupations, enrich their communities or enjoy the arts. They are reared to hate, and to kill, Jews–all the Jews who live “from the river to the sea.”

Israel has learned through bitter experience that it does little good to decapitate Gaza’s political leadership, Hamas. As long as Gaza’s sick culture exists, new leaders will be easy to find and the society’s perverted aims will be pursued. So the ultimate objective of Israel’s current military effort should be to destroy the culture that has rendered Gaza an implacable foe.

How do you destroy a culture? For starters, you discredit it. The surviving residents of Gaza must be made to understand that their ideology of Jew-hatred has been a catastrophic failure and a comprehensive disaster that has brought them nothing but ruin. In the future, anyone who tries to resurrect the idea of Gaza as a terrorist state should be treated as a post-WWII German who argued for bringing back the Nazi Party and marching on Germany’s neighbors would have been.

More than this may ultimately be necessary, but the first task is to make Gaza pay in full for its crimes.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php
 
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16 Oct 2023 7:13 am
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Cannonpointer » 15 Oct 2023, 9:59 pm » wrote: Seeing it on twitter is pretty much the same as being there to watch it with my own eyes.

I have no reason to doubt it and every reason to shout it to the winds as revealed gospel truth. 

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come on man

its twitter jack

why would the Israeli Air Force lie?

https://twitter.com/anggiemeidyana/status/1713410650641444949?s=21&t=8Oecw_XqYE-OBRIVKUlmxQ
 
 
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16 Oct 2023 7:23 am
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And you know this wants Hamas blowing up it's own to make the Israelis look bad how exactly?

It not like those guys have a problem indiscriminately killing innocent civilians to promote their "cause" ya know.

Hamas wants innocent Palestinians blown up in the streets. Their whole motive with attacking women and children last weekend was to provoke Israel into retaliating so they could paint them as the real bad guys.



 
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16 Oct 2023 7:28 am
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RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 7:23 am » wrote: And you know this wants Hamas blowing up it's own to make the Israelis look bad how exactly?

It not like those guys have a problem indiscriminately killing innocent civilians to promote their "cause" ya know.

Hamas wants innocent Palestinians blown up in the streets. Their whole motive with attacking women and children last weekend was to provoke Israel into retaliating so they could paint them as the real bad guys.
and you know this how exactly?
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16 Oct 2023 7:41 am
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 7:28 am » wrote: and you know this how exactly?
What do you think Hamas' motives were for attack innocent woman and children and grabbing hostages was?

Do you think Hamas really expected the Israelis to pack up and leave the region after the attack last week?

No... they expected Israel to return fire in spades and kill Palestinians so the Arab world would unite with them against Israel. Hamas had used this tactic since it's inception.

Hamas wants dead Palestinians. Hell, they need them.
 
 
 
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16 Oct 2023 7:43 am
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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 7:28 am » wrote: and you know this how exactly?

Common sense.....deductive reasoning.

Don't worry about it, you'll never have it.
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16 Oct 2023 7:53 am
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RebelGator » 16 Oct 2023, 7:43 am » wrote: Common sense.....deductive reasoning.

Don't worry about it, you'll never have it.
The only question you need to ask is, what was Hamas trying to accomplish by targeting women and children and taking hostages?

1500 armed terrorist killing Innocents weren't meant to run the Israeli out of the Middle East... it was meant to provoke a reaction.

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MackTheFinger » 15 Oct 2023, 10:25 pm » wrote: That reminds me of the time I went into my old bar hangout and a guy there said to me...

Man you are a drunk...every time I come in here I see you.
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RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 7:41 am » wrote: What do you think Hamas' motives were for attack innocent woman and children and grabbing hostages was?

Do you think Hamas really expected the Israelis to pack up and leave the region after the attack last week?

No... they expected Israel to return fire in spades and kill Palestinians so the Arab world would unite with them against Israel. Hamas had used this tactic since it's inception.

Hamas wants dead Palestinians. Hell, they need them.
and wouldn’t the same be true if Israel really did know that the attack was coming 

and didn’t warn the citizens?

point is

we never, and will never know the truth when it comes to war

we always and will always believe what our “trusted” resources say

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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: and wouldn’t the same be true if Israel really did know that the attack was coming 

and didn’t warn the citizens?

point is

we never, and will never know the truth when it comes to war

we always and will always believe what our “trusted” resources say

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The best way is to apply logic and reasoning and try to consider motive.

I believe the Israeli Govt allowing the attack is entirely possible, but Hamas carried it out regardless... which either makes them willing participants, or a bunch of useful idiots.

Regardless, I still go back to what Hamas was wanting to achieve in the attacks in the first place. They did it to spur a response from the IDF.

They did it knowing that it would get innocent Palestinians killed, and they didn't care. They did it to try and get the Arab world to unite and begin a global Jihad against the West, period... whether they were duped into it or not.

Israel's motive for allowing it to happen (if they did) would have been so they had an excuse to eliminate Hamas... and if anything Hamas obliged for their own self interests, even if it meant sacrificing their own people.

The question is, which side do you consider more evil?



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Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: and wouldn’t the same be true if Israel really did know that the attack was coming 

and didn’t warn the citizens?

point is

we never, and will never know the truth when it comes to war

we always and will always believe what our “trusted” resources say

all of us
Uke Nazi army has been shielding and hiding in schools, hospitals, apt buildings

for 20 months.  

We were told by MSM that when defending your land vs Russkies you are justified to use any tactics.
But the soulless West will always switch positions to sustain the desired narrative.

And yet in one week...500 Pali kids dead. 

In Ukraine, 20 months....148.
 
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Uke army have never once been deemed monstrous by MSM for hiding

in schools, hospitals, apt buildings.....

We were told by MSM that they are protecting THEIR LAND...by whatever means necessary.

But CUCKIES will be CUCKED
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16 Oct 2023 10:20 am
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At least you finally admit it.

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16 Oct 2023 10:24 am
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RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 10:07 am » wrote: The best way is to apply logic and reasoning and try to consider motive.

I believe the Israeli Govt allowing the attack is entirely possible, but Hamas carried it out regardless... which either makes them willing participants, or a bunch of useful idiots.

Regardless, I still go back to what Hamas was wanting to achieve in the attacks in the first place. They did it to spur a response from the IDF.

They did it knowing that it would get innocent Palestinians killed, and they didn't care. They did it to try and get the Arab world to unite and begin a global Jihad against the West, period... whether they were duped into it or not.

Israel's motive for allowing it to happen (if they did) would have been so they had an excuse to eliminate Hamas... and if anything Hamas obliged for their own self interests, even if it meant sacrificing their own people.

The question is, which side do you consider more evil?

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say Israel “levels” Gaza 

as many here and politicians have called for

and they do just that

and they kill 2 million civilians 

maybe 1 million of those are children 

who would you consider “more evil”

if you get the chance

here is one of the sharpest guys I knows take

it sure would save me a lot of typing 

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