Liberal Forum
Archive
‹
Political Chat Rooms
‹
No Holds Barred Political Forum
‹
Hamas blocking Palestinians from getting out of harms way.
Hamas blocking Palestinians from getting out of harms way.
By *rippy38
15 Oct 2023 8:07 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Oct 2023 10:53 am
My position is that Hamas is more responsible for what's happening to the Palestinian people today than Israel is.Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑ say Israel “levels” Gaza
as many here and politicians have called for
and they do just that
and they kill 2 million civilians
maybe 1 million of those are children
who would you consider “more evil”
if you get the chance
here is one of the sharpest guys I knows take
it sure would save me a lot of typing
https://youtu.be/Fbmz_sz_JqQ?si=JV-CYyr5wSK5AAQp
If you ran up and poked a sleeping bear with a stick and the bear started tearing your arms and legs off, then its kinda disingenuous to say the bear is in the wrong for tearing your arms and legs off.
I think what is happening to the Palestinians is atrocious and horrible, just like it was when it happened to the innocent Israelis. My point is from what I'm seeing today, right now... Hamas is more responsible for what it happening to the Palestinians today than Israel is.
If Hamas hadn't sent 1500 or so radicals into Israeli neighborhoods to kill or kidnap everything that was breathing, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Just the way I see it.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
16 Oct 2023 11:04 am
Two wrongs don’t make a rightRedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑ My position is that Hamas is more responsible for what's happening to the Palestinian people today than Israel is.
If you ran up and poked a sleeping bear with a stick and the bear started tearing your arms and legs off, then its kinda disingenuous to say the bear is in the wrong for tearing your arms and legs off.
I think what is happening to the Palestinians is atrocious and horrible, just like it was when it happened to the innocent Israelis. My point is from what I'm seeing today, right now... Hamas is more responsible for what it happening to the Palestinians today than Israel is.
If Hamas hadn't sent 1500 or so radicals into Israeli neighborhoods to kill or kidnap everything that was breathing, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Just the way I see it.
Hamas is more reasonable for what’s happening to the Palestinians today
but not for all of Palestines history
Israel is hardly a sleeping bear
or innocent
16 Oct 2023 11:13 am
I agree that two wrongs don't make a right, but it's hard to just stand there and let the other side bloody your nose and not hit back too.Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑ Two wrongs don’t make a right
Hamas is more reasonable for what’s happening to the Palestinians today
but not for all of Palestines history
Israel is hardly a sleeping bear
or innocent
I was thinking the other day, this Country fought an absolutely bloody and horrific five year Civil war just a little over a 150 years ago, but today, there is almost zero hostility between the opposing sides of that conflict among the populous of this Country.
I have to believe it was because there was a clear victor, with the opposing side capitulating completely... and that would be the only thing that would settle this crap in the M.E.
I just don't ever see that happening over there in this ****. Neither "side" is innocent in this conflict. All I'm saying is that what is happening today, right now, lays way more at Hamas' feet than it does Israel's.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
16 Oct 2023 11:13 am
This doesnt seem innocent....Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑ Two wrongs don’t make a right
Hamas is more reasonable for what’s happening to the Palestinians today
but not for all of Palestines history
Israel is hardly a sleeping bear
or innocent
looks more like theft.
But Im no map expert.
16 Oct 2023 11:21 am
I agree … todayRedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑ I agree that two wrongs don't make a right, but it's hard to just stand there and let the other side bloody your nose and not hit back too.
I was thinking the other day, this Country fought an absolutely bloody and horrific five year Civil war just a little over a 150 years ago, but today, there is almost zero hostility between the opposing sides of that conflict among the populous of this Country.
I have to believe it was because there was a clear victor, with the opposing side capitulating completely... and that would be the only thing that would settle this crap in the M.E.
I just don't ever see that happening over there in this ****. Neither "side" is innocent in this conflict. All I'm saying is that what is happening today, right now, lays way more at Hamas' feet than it does Israel's.
then tomorrow Israel’s fault
rinse and repeat
16 Oct 2023 11:46 am
How much of that land was taken after the Arabs attacked Israel and ended up getting their asses kicked?Sumela » 16 Oct 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑ This doesnt seem innocent....
looks more like theft.
But Im no map expert.
Hint: Nearly all of it
That's the way war works.
Hell, Israel held the Sinai peninsula, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and Gaza in the aftermath of the 1967 conflict... but ended up giving most of it back in the name of peace.
So much for that.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
16 Oct 2023 12:02 pm
The blood of every dead Palestinian is on the hands of Palestinian-Hamas.
As @blue devil liked to say"F- around.........and find out"
16 Oct 2023 1:10 pm
.RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑ How much of that land was taken after the Arabs attacked Israel and ended up getting their asses kicked?
Hint: Nearly all of it
That's the way war works.
Hell, Israel held the Sinai peninsula, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and Gaza in the aftermath of the 1967 conflict... but ended up giving most of it back in the name of peace.
So much for that.
No truer words have ever been spoken.
ultraliberals are not happy unless they are obsessing about something.
.
.
.
.
.
.
16 Oct 2023 5:56 pm
It's also important to keep in mind this brutal & lethal attack by Hamas was not limited to Israeli victims..... To date 30 of those murdered were US Citizens -- with another 13 unaccounted for , and presumed being held hostage... Hamas has not shown itself to be remotely reasonable, and I am actually surprised they have not released those Americans, along with some sort of statement saying they were not an intended target and were mistakenly apprehended..Mrkelly » 16 Oct 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑ Two wrongs don’t make a right
Hamas is more reasonable for what’s happening to the Palestinians today
but not for all of Palestines history
Israel is hardly a sleeping bear
or innocent
16 Oct 2023 6:10 pm
Correct... The winner in a war draws borders and dictates terms -- not the losers...RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑ How much of that land was taken after the Arabs attacked Israel and ended up getting their asses kicked?
Hint: Nearly all of it
That's the way war works.
Hell, Israel held the Sinai peninsula, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and Gaza in the aftermath of the 1967 conflict... but ended up giving most of it back in the name of peace.
So much for that.
All of those territorial expansions regarding Israel resulted from military victories over invading Arab neighbours....
Other land gains and occupation were because outside Arab peace-keeping parties such as Syria, Jordan and others were not holding to security agreements in not allowing the Palestinian territories to be used as launching sites to attack Israel.. People also forget Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt once a permanent peace treaty was reached...
As for Maps ---- lets look at European Maps prior to WW1, and then after .... Or Maps prior to WW2, and again after.... Same with the Mideast or pretty much every part of the world.... Maps change.
16 Oct 2023 6:53 pm
You're maps all wrong. See that little green strip along the south-western coast? That's no longer Palestinian. It's New Miami.Sumela » 16 Oct 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑ This doesnt seem innocent....
looks more like theft.
But Im no map expert.
16 Oct 2023 10:37 pm
Turns out they were just duping them into being sitting ducks for air strikes.Kobia2 » 16 Oct 2023, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑ Just the fact the Israelis are letting the civilians know in advance, you good people need to clear out --- because we'll be leveling this **** in the extremely near future, is far more humane than the way Hamas targeted civilians without warning...
Oh - and you're a moron.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Oct 2023 10:41 pm
So, the Israelis are rubes and HAMAS has played them out of pocket brilliantly? And you figured this out all by yourself?RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑ What do you think Hamas' motives were for attack innocent woman and children and grabbing hostages was?
Do you think Hamas really expected the Israelis to pack up and leave the region after the attack last week?
No... they expected Israel to return fire in spades and kill Palestinians so the Arab world would unite with them against Israel. Hamas had used this tactic since it's inception.
Hamas wants dead Palestinians. Hell, they need them.
16 Oct 2023 10:43 pm
Why the sok?Blackvegetable'sMom » 16 Oct 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: ↑ So, the Israelis are rubes and HAMAS has played them out of pocket brilliantly? And you figured this out all by yourself?
Nevermind... I know why.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
16 Oct 2023 10:46 pm
How could anyone expect different, given the US is the one empowering the brutalization of the palestinian people?Kobia2 » 16 Oct 2023, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑ It's also important to keep in mind this brutal & lethal attack by Hamas was not limited to Israeli victims..... To date 30 of those murdered were US Citizens -
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Oct 2023 10:47 pm
She just makes me laugh is all.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Oct 2023 10:51 pm
Later dingleberry.
I'll be back in a few days, got some things going on for most of the rest of the week.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
16 Oct 2023 10:58 pm
Stay away from the middle east.RedheadedStranger » 16 Oct 2023, 10:51 pm » wrote: ↑
Later dingleberry.
I'll be back in a few days, got some things going on for most of the rest of the week.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Oct 2023 11:00 pm
I'm not even gonna get near a synagogue. Those god damned mudslimes are on a rampage.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
17 Oct 2023 3:59 pm
Turns out according to who?..... Hamas & Al Jazeera?Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2023, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Turns out they were just duping them into being sitting ducks for air strikes.
Oh - and you're a moron.
By the way, if Your buddy here farts in Texas, do you jump in and say excuse me for him in California?...
Who is online
In total there are 5667 users online :: 3 registered, 15 bots, and 5649 guests
Bots: LCC, MicroMessenger, GPTBot, TTD-Content, oBot, proximic, DuckDuckBot, CriteoBot, YandexBot, Mediapartners-Google, Applebot, facebookexternalhit, bingbot, Googlebot, curl/7