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RebelGator » 04 Nov 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 2:07 pm

They're killing terrorists, everyone that wanted to leave, could have.

Leave to where ?
It's one of the most densely populated places on the planet ....
and Israel isn't  exactly living up to it's promises of not attacking the safe places it told Palestinians to go for safety.

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Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:37 am

Leave to where ?
It's one of the most densely populated places on the planet ?
and Israel isn't  exactly living up to it's promises of not attacking the safe places it told Palestinians to go for safety. 

Where is it Hamas hides again?

If the people held hostage are unwilling to rescue themselves, they sure won't help any other country under attack by own government they follow.

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:37 am

Leave to where ?
It's one of the most densely populated places on the planet ....
and Israel isn't  exactly living up to it's promises of not attacking the safe places it told Palestinians to go for safety.

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I don't know about you, but I'd start swimming before a bomb dropped on my ***.

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

israel attacked gaza all the time and evicted people out of their homes all  with the blessing of biden.  israel practically invited hamas to attack

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

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https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases ... m-families

“It is deeply shocking and heartbreaking to see Nora Ghaith and Mustafa Sub Laban, an older Palestinian couple, evicted from their family home where they have lived all their lives and raised their children,” the UN experts said.   Israeli police forcibly evicted Nora Ghaith and Mustafa Sub Laban from their home in the Old City of Jerusalem in the early hours of 11 July. The Ghaith-Sub Laban family, who had a protected lease on the house since 1953, reportedly faced constant harassment and lawsuits from Israeli authorities and settlers seeking to seize their home under an inherently discriminatory law that applies to Palestinians in east Jerusalem.“As we have repeatedly said, forced evictions of Palestinians in east Jerusalem are part of Israel’s apartheid machinery at work, designed to consolidate Jewish ownership of Jerusalem and racially dominate the city’s population,” the experts said.They stressed that the case of the Ghaith Sub-Laban family is not unique but is representative of a widespread and systematic practice by Israel to forcibly evict and displace Palestinians from east Jerusalem and “de-palestinize” the city. Across east Jerusalem, there are reportedly around 150 Palestinian families at risk of forced eviction and displacement by Israeli authorities and settler organisations.“Israel’s transfer of its own population into the occupied territory is a gross violation of international humanitarian law and a war crime,” the experts said. “Nothing speaks more blatantly of its intention to annex and colonise the occupied territory in violation of international law
 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:43 am

I don't know about you, but I'd start swimming before a bomb dropped on my ***.

Swim to where ?
Considering the Gaza coast is one of the most heavily guarded coasts in the world ....

 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

You just keep in mind that Israel backed and pushed Hamas on the Palestinian's in Gaza in an effort to destabilize the PLO that is internationally recognized as the official representative of the Palestinian people and not Hamas .
So, your attempt to try and vilify the Palestinians for falling for an Israeli backed controlled opposition gambit that is Hamas has no legs to stand on .....
 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

5-2021
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https://www.vox.com/2021/5/10/22428819/ ... ence-biden

Weeks of violence in Jerusalem, sparked by Israel’s attempt to evict several Palestinian families from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem, have Democrats, activists, and experts calling on President Joe Biden to speak out forcefully against the American ally’s actions.The problem is he and top members of his team are unlikely to — potentially missing an opportunity to stem the violence and avert a broader conflict.For decades, Israeli pro-settler organizations have aimed to push Palestinians in East Jerusalem out of their homes, dismantle their dwellings, and replace them with hundreds of housing units for Jews. It’s long been a source of simmering tension, and the anger grew to a boil in April as eviction cases continued in Israeli courts, leading Israeli police to increase their presence around the city and tussle with Palestinian protesters.Sign up for The Weeds newsletterVox’s German Lopez is here to guide you through the Biden administration’s burst of policymaking. Sign up to receive our newsletter each Friday.The standoff has produced troubling scenes, such as Israeli police on Saturday blocking buses of Palestinians traveling to pray at the al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam’s third-holiest site, for the holiest night of Ramadan
 

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 12:07 pm

Swim to where ?
Considering the Gaza coast is one of the most heavily guarded coasts in the world ....

So, who's it guarded by?

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/bide ... -conflict/

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 12:21 pm

So, who's it guarded by?

Israel.

 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/12/bi ... jerusalem/

MAY 12, 2021, 2:01 PM The Biden administration has stonewalled efforts in the U.N. Security Council to call for a halt to the escalating violence between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants, leaving the United States politically isolated just as it seeks to refurbish its multilateral credentials.In recent days, the United States has on at least three occasions refused to engage in negotiations initiated by Norway and Tunisia aimed at adopting a Security Council statement criticizing Israel’s evictions and demolitions of Palestinian properties in occupied East Jerusalem. The U.S. stance has effectively rendered the 15-nation council mute, as all statements from the body must be supported by consensus. The United States has told other countries that it is trying to calm the violence through direct diplomatic outreach and believes U.N. Security Council action at this stage could jeopardize that effort, according to sources at the international body. 
 
 

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 12:35 pm

Israel.

Israel recommended they leave, why would they stop the women and children?

The men would get stopped because Israel would suspect them of being Hamas, that's the way they operate.
 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 1:20 pm

Israel recommended they leave, why would they stop the women and children?

The men would get stopped because Israel would suspect them of being Hamas, that's the way they operate.

Where is safe right now ?
The Israeli's are bombing all of the supposed safe spaces .......
hospitals , refugee camps etc... 
so, where is it safe ....huh?

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm

Where is safe right now ?
The Israeli's are bombing all of the supposed safe spaces .......
hospitals , refugee camps etc... 
so, where is it safe ....huh?

Israel is striking where Hamas is hiding.

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm

Where is safe right now ?
The Israeli's are bombing all of the supposed safe spaces .......
hospitals , refugee camps etc... 
so, where is it safe ....huh?

bombing refugee camps are war crimes.

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 11:53 am

Just keep in mind....
Hamas was voted in by the Palestinians

And Hamas attacked Israel

the blood of the 1400 and the thousands since is on biden's head

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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/2 ... l-00089326

Some of those Democrats say Biden needs to set aside his affection and go beyond rhetoric to pressure Israel on everything from safeguarding democracy to establishing a Palestinian state.“Joe Biden has personally made clear repeatedly that there’s going to be no consequences, so why should Netanyahu change his behavior based on anything the United States says?” said Matt Duss, a leading progressive voice and Middle East analyst who has advised Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on foreign policy.
 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 2:40 pm

Israel is striking where Hamas is hiding.

And killing thoisands upon thousands  of innocent people while doing it.....
tell me how this will make Israel safer in the long run ?
make your case .....
 

           For those who believe / defend the Hamas narrative regarding the Israeli indiscriminate targeting & killing of Gazan Civilians ---- nor able to assign any responsibility for these deaths to Hamas.. 
 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4knQ9CMBIE

 
 

jerrab » 05 Nov 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 2:43 pm

bombing refugee camps are war crimes.

So, is bombing marked ambulances and hospitals ....
Netanyahu doesn't give a damn about International law and never has...... he and his party of right wing extreme ​​​​​​ Zionists have worked against the peace process and any Palestine state since it's inception .
The other elephant in the room that is being ignored by the MSM is that most of Israel was protesting against and calling for Netanyahu's resignation and new elections ....
and were also calling for normalization with the Palestinians. ...
and then ....POOF!  Some how ...miraculously one of the most heavily surveilled and militantly guarded borders on the planet suddenly suffers a total security meltdown on the exact same day that Hamas attacked.....
What a fortunate coincidence for Netanyahu and Likud....
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