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Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 4:17 pm

So, is bombing marked ambulances and hospitals ....
Netanyahu doesn't give a damn about International law and never has...... he and his party of right wing extreme ​​​​​​ Zionists have worked against the peace process and any Palestine state since it's inception .
The other elephant in the room that is being ignored by the MSM is that most of Israel was protesting against and calling for Netanyahu's resignation and new elections ....
and were also calling for normalization with the Palestinians. ...
and then ....POOF!  Some how ...miraculously one of the most heavily surveilled and militantly guarded borders on the planet suddenly suffers a total security meltdown on the exact same day that Hamas attacked.....
What a fortunate coincidence for Netanyahu and Likud....
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and he knows biden is at his side

Majik » 05 Nov 2023, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 3:34 pm

And killing thoisands upon thousands  of innocent people while doing it.....
tell me how this will make Israel safer in the long run ?
make your case .....

Who said they're killing innocent people.....Hamas?

Every dead terrorist is a plus in the equation.....name a war that didn't have collateral damage. Israel seems to be doing everything to minimize the loss of innocent civilians.
 

jerrab » 05 Nov 2023, 4:46 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 4:46 pm

and he knows biden is at his side

they even us us as an example of how it should be done

As Israeli officials proudly compare their bombardment of the Gaza Strip to the Allied firebombing of Dresden, the Associated Press has quietly removed a section noting US alarm over the historical comparison.The Associated Press has quietly deleted a reference to official Israeli threats to subject the Gaza Strip to a Dresden-style firebombing campaign — the latest move in legacy media outlets’ ongoing push to downplay the impacts of Tel Aviv’s siege of over two million Palestinians.

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/21/isra ... a-dresden/

https://twitter.com/freddydeknatel/status/1715195999612793286?s=21&t=tsb8ACJHPONQA4MC5G5lIQ

 
 

RebelGator » 05 Nov 2023, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 5:25 pm

Who said they're killing innocent people.....Hamas?

Every dead terrorist is a plus in the equation.....name a war that didn't have collateral damage. Israel seems to be doing everything to minimize the loss of innocent civilians.

           Israel is probably the only country in the history of warfare that has had such moral standards &  expectations placed upon them regarding collateral damage -- even though the world knows Hamas hides behind & underneath their civilian population..  If the same had been applied in WW2,  Germany & Japan would have never surrendered... 

Kobia2 » 05 Nov 2023, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 5:37 pm

           Israel is probably the only country in the history of warfare that has had such moral standards &  expectations placed upon them regarding collateral damage -- even though the world knows Hamas hides behind & underneath their civilian population..  If the same had been applied in WW2,  Germany & Japan would have never surrendered... 

see above

Mrkelly » 05 Nov 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 5:39 pm

see above

              The Military operations in Gaza conducted by the IDF do not even remotely resemble the indiscriminate incendiary carpet bombing of Dresden in WW2 --- regardless of who said what prior to the start of the Military Offensive... 


              You might also take a look at the above clip of the IDF spokesman proof of of the tactics used by both the Israelis, and Hamasiding p

Kobia2 » 05 Nov 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 5:43 pm

              The Military operations in Gaza conducted by the IDF do not even remotely resemble the indiscriminate incendiary carpet bombing of Dresden in WW2 --- regardless of who said what prior to the start of the Military Offensive... 

              You might also take a look at the above clip of the IDF spokesman proof of of the tactics used by both the Israelis, and Hamasiding p

mR Kelly is easily led astray, I think it's those drugs he's taking for his dysfunctional penis.

Kobia2 » 05 Nov 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 5:43 pm

              The Military operations in Gaza conducted by the IDF do not even remotely resemble the indiscriminate incendiary carpet bombing of Dresden in WW2 --- regardless of who said what prior to the start of the Military Offensive... 

              You might also take a look at the above clip of the IDF spokesman proof of of the tactics used by both the Israelis, and Hamasiding p

they are working on it

https://youtu.be/x9jrTyV76mQ?si=8qz5DU64yO9m8iv4
 
 

Mrkelly » 05 Nov 2023, 6:01 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 6:01 pm

they are working on it

https://youtu.be/x9jrTyV76mQ?si=8qz5DU64yO9m8iv4

            IDF already explained this.... This footage I believe was taken from a Hamas stronghold North of Gaza City.... The civilians living there had been warned for over 2 weeks to clear out as Israeli forces were gathering on the Border in preparations for their operations to begin... You can hear recorded examples of this in the Vid I provided where an IDF Rep is on the phone with residents of such specific buildings telling them to evacuate..  Also in the Vid you can see examples of the Million + leaflets dropped on the Gazans warning them to evacuate from such locations. 

Kobia2 » 05 Nov 2023, 6:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 6:57 pm

            IDF already explained this.... This footage I believe was taken from a Hamas stronghold North of Gaza City.... The civilians living there had been warned for over 2 weeks to clear out as Israeli forces were gathering on the Border in preparations for their operations to begin... You can hear recorded examples of this in the Vid I provided where an IDF Rep is on the phone with residents of such specific buildings telling them to evacuate..  Also in the Vid you can see examples of the Million + leaflets dropped on the Gazans warning them to evacuate from such locations. 

stop it

they have killed thousands of civilians 

when ....  in your mind

does defending themselves become murder?

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:24 pm

Hamas started this...
Who voted in Hamas anyway?

I'll ask you the same question 

when does defending yourself become murder?ِ

At least 42 percent of all housing units in the Gaza Strip have been destroyed or damaged as a result of Israel's continuous strikes, the UN humanitarian office said."About 15,100 housing units were destroyed, and 10,656 housing units were rendered uninhabitable," the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said in a press statement sent to The New Arab.

https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-42-ho ... ged-israel

Israel entered a new phase of its war on Hamas on Saturday, expanding its ground attacks after blacking out nearly all communication in the Gaza Strip with increased bombardment and artillery fire. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called it a war for Israel’s existence, and said “‘Never again’ is now.”Gaza residents described the massive bombardment from the land, air and sea as the most intense of the 3-week-old Israel-Hamas war. It knocked out most communications in the territory late Friday and largely cut off the besieged enclave’s 2.3 million people from the world. Communications were restored to many people in Gaza early Sunday, according to the telecoms company Paltel, Internet-access advocacy group NetBlocks.organd confirmation on the ground.
The Palestinian death toll passed 7,700, most of them women and children, according to the Health Ministry in Hamas-ruled Gaza. In the occupied West Bank, more than 110 Palestinians have been killed in violence and Israeli raids.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas ... ab1637a3db

 
 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 7:45 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:45 pm

There's a war going on . 
Hamas started it 

Should we have told the British NOT to fight back while Hitler was bombing London??

Cmon..

Answer!

BUTWHATABOUT  

**** off

idiot 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 8:15 pm

Can't answer huh?

Cause you know the answer ...

Wanna try it again?
Hitler bombed London non stop in WW2...
Should we have ordered the British NOT to fight back?

Simple question

You NEVER answer any questions 

you only BUTWHATABOUT

**** off

idiot

Mrkelly » 05 Nov 2023, 7:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:07 pm

stop it

they have killed thousands of civilians 

when ....  in your mind

does defending themselves become murder?

       When Hamas no longer has the  leadership, man power, infrastructure and means to wage war on Israel..... Do you believe if IDF halted all Military operations and withdrew from Gaza immediately, this would result in a cessation of attacks launched on Israel by Hamas for any longer than it would take for Hamas to regroup & re-arm??.... 

     

Mrkelly » 05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 8:07 pm

BUTWHATABOUT  

**** off

idiot

 

Nostradamus'omh » 05 Nov 2023, 9:22 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 9:22 am

hey, what is your reading comprehension of what I posted. I said death was a separate specific order as conceived to birth but both are specific to each event when spontaneously arriving by population simultaneously evolving since inception to conception of a next generation gap to lifetimes never same people twice occupying time now.

Evolution is a topic of how it arrives, evolving is the process why living is taking place as specific as what, where, when , which, place, person, thing. event happened, or happening universally here now.

The simplicity of the whole is equal to total sum of all its parts. You wish to divide the universe into galaxies, solar systems, planetary locations, food chain, species, ancestral lineages, family units, individual lifetimes, chromosomes or molecular content beyond the atom to adam and eve?

Don't quit thinking perpetual balancing limits times to events between standard event horizons shared when uniquely present.

   Evolution can not be random non logical assembly and growth with zero controlling authority and then also karma and Christianity, etc.

Bob » 06 Nov 2023, 6:14 am » wrote: ↑

06 Nov 2023, 6:14 am

   Evolution can not be random non logical assembly and growth with zero controlling authority and then also karma and Christianity, etc.

Specific balancing results from specific combinations by specific actions and reactions of the "whole process" comes the byproduct of time to objects occupying space in series parallel positions actually evolving here now.

Doesn't take an intellectual authority to make it happen, but it does take intellect to understand everything happening at the same time origin to departure of forms shaped here now either erode or decompose since combined molecular content of a periodic table por ancestral lineage.

You want to compare 7,000 revolutions of speculation or understand 5 billion revolutions of things never same total sum twice within the ever changing population of your genetic lineage and the whole food chain native to this atmosphere, one reproduction at a time.

So BOB, you are in water way over your head, must be global warming thawing out eternal hell froze over in plane possibilities life isn't self evident.