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Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

Ok, I'll shoot.  I can't say that I "love" Israel, but I respect it.

• It is the only true democracy in the middle east - its a fact and worth mentioning.
• Israel is a capitalist country
• There are many businesses in Israel that are very successful.  They make **** people want/need and put people to work.  https://companiesmarketcap.com/israel/l ... arket-cap/ The Arab countries hardly have any commerce not related to oil and banking. Basically, they don't know how to make **** people want/need.
• Israelis, for the most part, are peaceful people - they don't go around starting wars or terrorizing civilians.  They value peace.  As far as I can tell, they gave back tons of land they captured from Egypt and Jordan in a war started by those countries, just to make peace with them.
• Israel is the epicenter of Christianity. And, the Israeli government not only allows this but safeguards Christians and Christian religious sites from Palestinian assholes who would destroy them in an instant.  There isn't even one Arab nation that preserves Christian religious sites.  Egypt used to try and protect Coptics from its Arab population, but since the Arab Spring, they have pretty much said "F-it".  Lebanon used to protect Maronites from ruthless Muslim thugs, but Hezbollah has shoved them all out of Lebanon. 

Now, why do you (seemingly) hate Israel so much?

P.S. On the issue of foreign aid.  My position is that NO NATION should receive annual foreign aid from the U.S.  If there is something going on that justifies it as a one-time thing, the Congress should vote on it.  Israel does receive too much aid from the U.S.  But, so do many other nations.  We need to cut all that **** out.
 
 
 

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

What is love vs hate emotions. Glad to be socially accepted and angry for being ancestrally rejected as not treated as exceptional when equally adapting to the moment regardless which generation gap achieved after birth?

Civil nature vs civic pride really divides a species each generation gap alive using intellectual means to confuse each ancestor occupying time now.

It is called psychological class warfare institutionally used in every alternate reality present academically, artistically, economically, politically, spiritually, socially each generation gap directing their last generation to repeat the previous 4's wishful thinking now isn't eternity.

God's chosen people. Those who love God love Israel. I love Israel.

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

This is a bit of a loaded question.

Define "love of Israel", and we'll go from there.

Lol
 

**** HAMAS AND ALL THAT SUPPORT THEM

Neo » 18 Oct 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:12 pm

God's chosen people. Those who love God love Israel. I love Israel.

To love God is to reject ancestral progression in plain sight of genetic compounding chromosomes of active replacements changing population one generation gap at a time each lifetime gets adapting to the moment so far.
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vocabulary suggesting anything else is possible doesn't lead ancestries back to understanding what will never happen ancestrally forward here in this atmosphere ever, nor will it ever happen in any part of universe perpetually balancing out the incoming reproductions added next one at a time.

To believe life isn't self evident is a choice each ancestor makes after birth.

RedheadedStranger » 18 Oct 2023, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:14 pm

This is a bit of a loaded question.

Define "love of Israel", and we'll go from there.

Lol

The bigger question is why do some posters favor terrorists over Israeli citizens?

You'll get the standard disingenuous answer about the Jews being terrorists becsuse they counter punch when attacked.

I think they're bigots because their ancestors were bigots, it's ingrained in them like a gene that produces red hair or flat feet.
 

RebelGator » 18 Oct 2023, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:44 pm

The bigger question is why do some posters favor terrorists over Israeli citizens?

You'll get the standard disingenuous answer about the Jews being terrorists becsuse they counter punch when attacked.

I think they're bigots because their ancestors were bigots, it's ingrained in them like a gene that produces red hair or flat feet.

Truth be told, bigotry is a human trait and everybody is a bigot to some degree, whether they want to admit it or not.

What I want to know about the question in the OP is what is the author's definition of "love" of Israel.

I believe Israel has a right to exist unmolested, but does that equate "love"?

I would say no, but ya never know.
 

RedheadedStranger » 18 Oct 2023, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:52 pm

Truth be told, bigotry is a human trait and everybody is a bigot to some degree, whether they want to admit it or not.

What I want to know about the question in the OP is what is the author's definition of "love" of Israel.

I believe Israel has a right to exist unmolested, but does that equate "love"?

I would say no, but ya never know.

I can't answer that either, the two biggest Jew haters have that animus cemented in their mind like a birth defect and like it's been said, "what's love got to do with it"?
 

RebelGator » 18 Oct 2023, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:44 pm

The bigger question is why do some posters favor terrorists over Israeli citizens?

You'll get the standard disingenuous answer about the Jews being terrorists becsuse they counter punch when attacked.

I think they're bigots because their ancestors were bigots, it's ingrained in them like a gene that produces red hair or flat feet.
 

bigotry is in common use of a language a people use to justify ignoring their actual time displaced as eternally separated by the moment here. the specificity of actual evolving is too much to face knowing one's own ancestry sustains reasonable doubt so far.

Everyone waiting on everyone else to stop denying now is eternity. I started the process of explaining how eternally works naturally 17 years ago brain to brain on message boards like this. I have no idea who did change their mind, but I sure as hell know those that haven't.

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why

By Bob Dylan
.
Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man
His enemies say he's on their land
They got him outnumbered about a million to one
He got no place to escape to, no place to run
He's the neighborhood bully

Neighborhood bully, he just lives to survive
He's criticized and condemned for being alive
Not supposed to fight back, and have thick skin
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in
He's the neighborhood bully

Neighborhood bully been driven out of every land
He's wandered the earth an exiled man
Seen his family scattered, people hounded and torn
He's always on trial for just being born
He's the neighborhood bully

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad
The bombs were meant for him, he was supposed to feel bad
He's the neighborhood bully

Well, the chances are against it, and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him
'There's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him given out to every maniac
He's the neighborhood bully

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep
He's the neighborhood bully

...Now his holiest books have been trampled upon
No contract that he signed was worth that what it was written on
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health
He's the neighborhood bully

What's anybody indebted to him for?
"Nothing", they say, "he just likes to cause war"
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed
They wait for this bully like a dog waits for feed
Neighborhood bully

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers? Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill
Running out the clock, time standing still
Neighborhood bully

 
 

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

The enemy of my enemy...  
I don't have to love Israel to oppose Arab hatred.
 

golfboy » 18 Oct 2023, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 7:27 pm

The enemy of my enemy...  
I don't have to love Israel to oppose Arab hatred.
 

the enemy of my enemies is me, myself, and I for not believing their self anointed exceptionalism from evolving in real time.

A normal well-adjusted person

should love all countries.

Beautiful North Korea!


 

Sumela » 18 Oct 2023, 7:34 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 7:34 pm

A normal well-adjusted person

should love all countries.

Beautiful North Korea!

So, are you saying that you love Israel, or that you are not a normal well adjusted person?

 
 

Beautiful Christian Church in Damascus...St. Marys.

Saul was traveling to Damascus to persecute Christians
when Christ intervened and blinded him. He then became
the Apostle Paul. Syria has a long Christian history to this day.


 

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

Suck a spoiled egg…

Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?

OK..I didn't expect you to read all of that Dylan song about Israel but just pick a random paragraph and read it !
 

Skans » 18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm

Ok, I'll shoot.  I can't say that I "love" Israel, but I respect it.

• It is the only true democracy in the middle east - its a fact and worth mentioning.

Lebanon, Tunisia, Turkey, Morocco, Jordan, Kuwait

Skans » 18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm

• Israel is a capitalist country

Living on US welfare. There are mostly capitalist countries in the middle east - NOT living on US welfare.

Do you consider AMERICA'S welfare recipients "capitalist," fruitcake?

Skans » 18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm

• There are many businesses in Israel that are very successful.  They make **** people want/need and put people to work.  The Arab countries hardly have any commerce not related to oil and banking. Basically, they don't know how to make **** people want/need.

When your country gets bombed back to the stone age every decade, and gets embargoes and no-flyed and blockaded, it gets hard to export much. OTOH, when you get MFN treatment from the world's biggest consumer, the business environment is hard to **** up in.

Skans » 18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm

• Israelis, for the most part, are peaceful people - they don't go around starting wars or terrorizing civilians.

Google Palestine.

Skans » 18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Oct 2023, 5:07 pm

• Israel is the epicenter of Christianity. And, the Israeli government not only allows this but safeguards Christians and Christian religious sites from Palestinian assholes who would destroy them in an instant.  There isn't even one Arab nation that preserves Christian religious sites.

You are such a goon, fruity. There ARE NO CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES in arab countries. How the **** can they protect what is not there? There are very few ARAB holy sites in Arab countries, you **** loon.

And if you knew ANYTHING about what you spew, you would know that israel brutalizes Christians and treats them like absolute ****.