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18 Oct 2023 4:35 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: I've looked at the federal budget.  You wouldn't believe how much waste is in there.  You may think you know just how wasteful our government is, but you have no clue.  I have an extremely hard time even wrapping my head around it.  But, I will say this.  Medicare and the Military are still the two biggest bloated pieces of **** weighing our country down right now.  Yes, all of this other crap should be eliminated, but altogether they don't even make up 25% of the pie.
My mom was a civilian contract administrator for the Air Force for years. The stories she use to tell us we're crazy.

She told me once about spending $350K to replace an 8x8 security shack at a gate that wasn't even in use on the base she worked at.

The city had redone a road outside of this particular gate and there was no longer access to the gate itself from the civilian side, so it was blocked off... and the Govt STILL spent $350k to replace a security shack that no one was ever going to use again. Brilliant huh?

This was in the 80's too so now that same shack would probably be several million... and **** like this still goes on today.



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Beautiful North Korea...free of The Tranny Takeover like the crumbling *** West

NK is glorious! :clap:  

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Sumela » 19 Oct 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: Beautiful North Korea...free of The Tranny Takeover like the crumbling *** West

NK is glorious! :clap:  

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Ge get same style pictures anywhere in rural areas in this country. It is the urban sprawl beyond tourist traps that all look alike regardless first world nations and 3rd world countries.

Where are the second class citizens? Managing realities.
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RedheadedStranger » 19 Oct 2023, 6:30 am » wrote: Bad neighbors and teat suckers are everywhere... you just hate them because they're Joos.
Thanks for telling me about me. I'll return the favor: You're gay. 
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Cannonpointer » 19 Oct 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: Thanks for telling me about me. I'll return the favor: You're gay.
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Cannonpointer » 19 Oct 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: Thanks for telling me about me. I'll return the favor: You're gay. 
century and a half ago, gay meant happy to be alive.what 5 generation gaps have done to vocabulary.
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19 Oct 2023 11:31 am
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Neo » 19 Oct 2023, 9:22 am » wrote:
Vegas » 19 Oct 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: Not according to the New Testament. Jews are no longer God's chosen people. Jesus opened that love for all people.
Need to read your Bible. Jews are still God's chosen, still the holders of the covenant. That unmerited grace has been expanded to all who accept the sacrifice of Christ. The new testament doesn't replace the old, it fulfills it.
Are you saying there are 2 Israels or are you saying that Christians aren’t the people of God?

How does one become a part of  Israel? 
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GeorgeWashington » 19 Oct 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: Are you saying there are 2 Israels or are you saying that Christians aren’t the people of God?

How does one become a part of  Israel? 
There is God of Abraham in the Torah, Allah in the Quran, Old Testament Father of New Testament Jesus. then there is Buddha of the oriental wisemen.
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GeorgeWashington » 19 Oct 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: Are you saying there are 2 Israels or are you saying that Christians aren’t the people of God?

How does one become a part of  Israel?

That is a question for Neo. He made the claim that if you speak against Israel , then you are speaking against God's chosen people. I am speaking of Jews in general, not Israel. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 19 Oct 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: That is a question for Neo. He made the claim that if you speak against Israel , then you are speaking against God's chosen people. I am speaking of Jews in general, not Israel. 
Separation of religious morality and political legal precedence. Both never accept how actual evolving is self evident.
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GeorgeWashington » 19 Oct 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: Are you saying there are 2 Israels or are you saying that Christians aren’t the people of God?

How does one become a part of  Israel?
Christians are adopted into the covenant. Gentiles are step kids. 
 
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Nostradamus'omh » 19 Oct 2023, 11:52 am » wrote: Separation of religious morality and political legal precedence. 

Years ago, any separation of your mom and I in bed together would result in your non-existence. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 19 Oct 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: Years ago, any separation of your mom and I in bed together would result in your non-existence.
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Vegas » 19 Oct 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: Years ago, any separation of your mom and I in bed together would result in your non-existence. 
another junior ^^^^^ high mentality at play suffering from Peter Pan syndrome of hope, faith and charity defying why you exist in plain sight delivers social power, wealth, and fame cradle to grave adapting self evidently here now as proportionately alive as individually here.

Keep saving reasonable doubt. It fits your career orientated typecast personality to the letter of the law defending your stereotypical behavior.
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Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote:
  • Jordan - ruled by King Abdullah II
England and Spain are monarchies. AND democracies.
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote:
  • Turkey - Europe/Western Asia, Not really in the middle east, but because the map says it is, I'll give you that one, Dopey.
I'll take it. Thank you for admitting israel is not the only democracy in the middle east, dork. Oh - and Iran WAS a democracy before we overthrew them and put a CIA-trained torture-happy dictator over them. That counts, ape. We punish, prevent, and overthrow arab democracies.
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: No.  But, welfare bums aren't a country either.
You just declared kept-israel not a country, ya moron. 
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: You are such a fool.  Christianity started in the middle east.
Specifically in Israel, ya stupid ****. 
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: ..there are still many historic and ancient Christian holy sites in Lebanon.
So they DO preserve them - thanks.
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: Look up "Tyre" and "Sidon", big-brain.
Name a Christian holy site in Tyre or Sidon - or ANYWHERE ON EARTH - that was destroyed by a modern Arab government, fruitcake. Go!

Go, go, go!

GO!
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: As for Israel, there are tons of Christian holy sites there, many of which are in Palestinian controlled areas like Bethlehem.
Huh. Not destroyed, then? Thanks for that.
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: ...there are also many Christian holy sites in Cairo.  Many of the middle east Christians have been murdered or have fled to Europe and the United States.  Because ****-bag Arabs can't stand living alongside ANYONE, not even themselves.  Educate yourself before you **** diarrhea from your fingertips next time.
Wow, I can see why you people call for genocide. All arabs are **** - why NOT murder the lot? Other than who ya hate, you're different than hitler how, precisely?
Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: Some uber-religious Jews in Israel don't like Christians.  But Israel as a Country and most Israeli people have never "brutalized" Christians and has never treated them like ****.
Lol. You **** monkey. Your ****-talk and the experience of Israeli Christians have a small gap. Image

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Skans » 19 Oct 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: No, they are not like your Arab countries that go around destroying churches and killing Christians.
Name ONE, mouth. ONE incident of attacks on Christians or churches not carried out by cia proxies in the wake of U.S. mischief.

Just to give an uneducated redneck some CONTEXT: Back BEFORE these modern states existed, Muslims - LIKE CHRISTIANS - **** on other religions' holy sites. Typically, they tore down your **** and build their **** on the site. A noteworthy counter-example was the Christian Cathedral in Istanbul that the conquering Ottomans found too beautiful to destroy, so they turned it into a mosque called Hagia Sophia.

AGAIN, to put some context into your trailer park brain, Solomon's temple was destroyed by BABYLONIANS more than a thousand years before the prophet mohammed married a kid. Blaming Arabs for the norms of the ANCIENT world, which were practiced with great zeal by Christendom, is just the blather of a stupid hick working with a hick's information and capacity for reason.

 
 
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19 Oct 2023 12:11 pm
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Vegas » 18 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: Why? 

And if you say the usual script "because they are a democracy and share our ideals" , then congrats. You have been duped by your media with their same gay propaganda for the past 4 decades. 

Do you have anything that doesn't parrot what you have been told to say?
I can't say I'm particularly enamoured with either side. Israel is in the position at the moment, where there isn't an acceptable response they can make to the events of the 7th - but equally, they can't do nothing either. The details are debatable, but there's no denying the nature of what took place; which did nothing but target civilians in the most brutal way imaginable. Due to the population density of Gaza, it's impossible for Israel to target Hamas and not get civilians as well. There is a distinct moral difference between those two attack strategies - but apparently the court of public opinion doesn't care about these issues, it just wants Israel strung-up for every misstep.

Is there anything Israel can do that would be acceptable to the Palestinians and their supporters, other than self-immolation? It doesn't appear so, so what is Israel to do with such aggression, other than to meet it equally?
 
 
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
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19 Oct 2023 12:14 pm
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Cannonpointer » 19 Oct 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: England and Spain are monarchies. AND democracies.


I'll take it. Thank you for admitting israel is not the only democracy in the middle east, dork. Oh - and Iran WAS a democracy before we overthrew them and put a CIA-trained torture-happy dictator over them. That counts, ape. We punish, prevent, and overthrow arab democracies.


You just declared kept-israel not a country, ya moron. 


Specifically in Israel, ya stupid ****. 


So they DO preserve them - thanks.


Name a Christian holy site in Tyre or Sidon - or ANYWHERE ON EARTH - that was destroyed by a modern Arab government, fruitcake. Go!

Go, go, go!

GO!


Huh. Not destroyed, then? Thanks for that.


Wow, I can see why you people call for genocide. All arabs are **** - why NOT murder the lot? Other than who ya hate, you're different than hitler how, precisely?


Lol. You **** monkey. Your ****-talk and the experience of Israeli Christians have a small gap. Image

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... normalised


Name ONE, mouth. ONE incident of attacks on Christians or churches not carried out by cia proxies in the wake of U.S. mischief.

Just to give an uneducated redneck some CONTEXT: Back BEFORE these modern states existed, Muslims - LIKE CHRISTIANS - **** on other religions' holy sites. Typically, they tore down your **** and build their **** on the site. A noteworthy counter-example was the Christian Cathedral in Istanbul that the conquering Ottomans found too beautiful to destroy, so they turned it into a mosque called Hagia Sophia.

AGAIN, to put some context into your trailer park brain, Solomon's temple was destroyed by BABYLONIANS more than a thousand years before the prophet mohammed married a kid. Blaming Arabs for the norms of the ANCIENT world, which were practiced with great zeal by Christendom, is just the blather of a stupid hick working with a hick's information and capacity for reason.

 
 
this is why my brain never trusts power of suggestion because I took the time to navigate evolving as it happens naturally with the numbers occupying time now.

I watch generation gaps repeat history because they obey their society's rule of law combining choices made each generation gap lifetimes are never same results twice.

Genetics eternally separates the active reproductions living and every human replacement is educated to believe that isn't possible leaving orchestrated chaos governing organized self deception as a greater good scenario in each alternate reality commanding malcontents to raise hell if anyone doesn't comply to denying now is eternity.

It is the universal constant throughout history of genetics changing population one ancestor at a time here. this species is self destructing by its own ancestral choices.
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19 Oct 2023 12:16 pm
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Cannonpointer » 19 Oct 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: Thanks for telling me about me. I'll return the favor: You're gay.
I'm just assigning you a position is all.

No reason in getting upset about it.
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JustinSane » 19 Oct 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: I can't say I'm particularly enamoured with either side. Israel is in the position at the moment, where there isn't an acceptable response they can make to the events of the 7th - but equally, they can't do nothing either. The details are debatable, but there's no denying the nature of what took place; which did nothing but target civilians in the most brutal way imaginable. Due to the population density of Gaza, it's impossible for Israel to target Hamas and not get civilians as well. There is a distinct moral difference between those two attack strategies - but apparently the court of public opinion doesn't care about these issues, it just wants Israel strung-up for every misstep.

Is there anything Israel can do that would be acceptable to the Palestinians and their supporters, other than self-immolation? It doesn't appear so, so what is Israel to do with such aggression, other than to meet it equally?

Israel is definitely justified in returning the aggression.  What my issue is that most Israel supporters seem to think that Israel is not as equally bad as the other barbarians in that region. A lot of this they brought on themselves. They do oppress the Palestians, they have a long time. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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RedheadedStranger » 19 Oct 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: I'm just assigning you a position is all.

No reason in getting upset about it.
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He's been very agitated since the Joo Offensive.......inasmuch as he's responsible for most of it. :die:  
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