Liberal Forum

maineman » 24 Oct 2023, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Oct 2023, 6:34 pm

It was just a suggestion.  I didn't hold much hope that you'd consider it.

by your methods of defending the character you rather be, you won't discuss the means by how you exist what you been since conceived.

Neo » 23 Oct 2023, 11:13 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 11:13 pm

States set ballot eligibility for their elections. Not sure the Supremes will step in.

But the eligibility rules of a state cannot change the US Constitution.  That is the document that established the eligibility requirements to be President.  I understand there is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment whiny *** liberals feel disqualified Trump.  However, there are several things those whiny *** liberals seem to forget, and they are also part of the US Constitution.  In fact, one of them is also in the 14th Amendment.  Some constitutional scholars interpret the due process clause as requiring a federal court needing to declare someone ineligible under the 14th. Every American citizen, who meets the constitutional qualifications to be President, is free to run for President and the freedoms of citizen cannot be denied without due process.

Additionally, there is some debate over if the 14th applies to President

Article II, Section 2 states (in part);
"...and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States,..."

There seems to be two schools of thought.  The first is that the words "and all other officers of the United States" means he is an officer of the United States.  That seems logical.  However, the other school of thought is that Article II, Section 2 lists the officers of the United States..."shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States..." and the "all other officers" doesn't include the President.  As the head of the Executive Branch, the President has the authority to appoint officers.  I can see the logic of that argument as well.  That is most certainly a matter for federal courts (including the Supreme Court), and it must be clarified first.

If Trumpy removed???

What will happen???

Trumpyites will cry....and take it?

Sumela » 25 Oct 2023, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 11:50 am

If Trumpy removed???

What will happen???

Trumpyites will cry....and take it?

They will send him money  
 

Mrkelly » 25 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm

They will send him money

 
 

Mrkelly » 25 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 12:21 pm

They will send him money

It's their money...they are free to give it away if they choose.
 

ConsRule » 25 Oct 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 12:42 pm

It's their money...they are free to give it away if they choose.

I never said otherwise 

still funny   

nobody grifts lik tRump

Mrkelly » 25 Oct 2023, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 2:13 pm

I never said otherwise 

still funny   

nobody grifts lik tRump

Aren't you the guy who conned another poster out of $25,000.00?  

RebelGator » 25 Oct 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 2:25 pm

Aren't you the guy who conned another poster out of $25,000.00?

didn’t con him

he offered 

maineman » 23 Oct 2023, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 5:55 pm

Hillary conceded two days after the election.  Trump never did.  

Having a slate of fake electors, and a plan to disrupt the transfer of power to intimidate the Veep into accepting that slate IS an insurrection.
But hey...you're free to disagree... I could give a ****.  Convincing YOU isn't really essential, is it?

What was buying television ads with celebrity speakers begging electors to insurrect against their constituents?

You lack the moral wherewithal, nyugga. 
 
 

ConsRule » 25 Oct 2023, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

25 Oct 2023, 11:01 am

But the eligibility rules of a state cannot change the US Constitution.  That is the document that established the eligibility requirements to be President.  I understand there is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment whiny *** liberals feel disqualified Trump.  However, there are several things those whiny *** liberals seem to forget, and they are also part of the US Constitution.  In fact, one of them is also in the 14th Amendment.  Some constitutional scholars interpret the due process clause as requiring a federal court needing to declare someone ineligible under the 14th. Every American citizen, who meets the constitutional qualifications to be President, is free to run for President and the freedoms of citizen cannot be denied without due process.

Additionally, there is some debate over if the 14th applies to President

Article II, Section 2 states (in part);
"...and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States,..."

There seems to be two schools of thought.  The first is that the words "and all other officers of the United States" means he is an officer of the United States.  That seems logical.  However, the other school of thought is that Article II, Section 2 lists the officers of the United States..."shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States..." and the "all other officers" doesn't include the President.  As the head of the Executive Branch, the President has the authority to appoint officers.  I can see the logic of that argument as well.  That is most certainly a matter for federal courts (including the Supreme Court), and it must be clarified first.

There isn't any question that one who holds an office is an officer. 
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm

There isn't any question that one who holds an office is an officer.

^^^^ what he said!

Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm

There isn't any question that one who holds an office is an officer.

Biden holds an office and he's a moron.

Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 11:15 pm

There isn't any question that one who holds an office is an officer.

According to you. Don't think you're a constitutional scholar.
 

Neo » 23 Oct 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:50 am

Doesn't this prove his contention of rigged elections?

there is still the write in option on every ballot for the office of President. Doesn't mean it would win the electoral College though.

but if every state's rural communities wrote in Trump, the urban sprawls better learn where their necessities of life come from raw materials to finished supplies demanded to stay alive in concrete jungles that cannot sustain themselves.

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:41 am

Cannon's not even an adult

  You'd know pedo.
 

Z09 » 05 Nov 2023, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:41 am

Cannon's not even an adult 
 

Are you an intellectual social identity without a gender time displaced except for the host body you went into after it was born?

ConsRule » 05 Nov 2023, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 7:31 am

According to you. Don't think you're a constitutional scholar.

Not a biologist, either. But I know the difference between a boy and a girl, unlike the president whose foreign policy you support.

One need not be a Constitutional scholar to speak english. An office holder is an officer. 

The definition of officer - and this is without bothering to look - is one who holds an office. 


 

If OMB is removed without the T of the law...it will be the beginning of the end of Democracy.
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Nov 2023, 8:06 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Nov 2023, 8:06 pm

Not a biologist, either. But I know the difference between a boy and a girl, unlike the president whose foreign policy you support.

One need not be a Constitutional scholar to speak english. An office holder is an officer. 

The definition of officer - and this is without bothering to look - is one who holds an office. 


 

Being a reproduction adapting when occupying time inhabiting space individually here makes any ancestor an expert on where they are any given moment of relative time adapting as displaced biologically here in this adapt or become extinct series parallel space environment equally timing each apart now in plain sight.

Oops, I did it again. When you going to stop denying why you exist in the first place? Really easy to be honest. It is self evident.