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Vegas » 23 Oct 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 4:26 pm

This is one of the things that my fellow conservatives drive me up the wall with. **** FOX news and the rest of that ****.

The criteria for them to become a sovereign nation is under the same circumstances that we were under when Britain controlled us. 

• America fought Britain and won. We became a nation.  Palestine is under Israel control, they are fighting for their independence just as we did. 
• Palestine is made up of refugees and exiled losers. America was made up of low life farmers and peasants from Europe. 
• Britain was a tyranny. Israel oppresses Palestine. 
• Britain was full of homos. Israel loves *** and trannies. 

Am I the only one that sees the similarities? Hell, even Australia was made from a penal colony. They were **** convicts that started that population and they turned into a nation.

What's so special about being just another small cog in the big global machine?
They become the "Republic of Palestine" and are so tiny they become a vassal state anyway.
Big **** deal.
It'd be just a title and some paperwork. They'd still hate Jews and the feeling would be mutual.

Besides, the Jews would then have to find a different way to ply their "World's Best Martyrs" status.
How would they do that if they didn't have Palis lobbing in a rocket once in a while? Seriously.
If this "conflict" were resolved, what next?

DeezerShoove » 23 Oct 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 6:47 pm

What's so special about being just another small cog in the big global machine?
They become the "Republic of Palestine" and are so tiny they become a vassal state anyway.
Big **** deal.
It'd be just a title and some paperwork. They'd still hate Jews and the feeling would be mutual.

Besides, the Jews would then have to find a different way to ply their "World's Best Martyrs" status.
How would they do that if they didn't have Palis lobbing in a rocket once in a while? Seriously.
If this "conflict" were resolved, what next?

They would have an ethno-state of their own - something to which everyone except Caucasians has an inalienable right. 

If WE want it, the jews convince us that is racist.

The Empire hates peace - it prefers chaos.

Chaos is easy to exploit. And the empire

desperately needs a win these days.

Vegas » 23 Oct 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 4:26 pm

This is one of the things that my fellow conservatives drive me up the wall with. 

 

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Yo...Yo...Israel offered Arafat / PLO everything they wanted for peace EXCEPT for East Jerusalem.
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 Arafat / PLO turnd them down !
 

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:11 pm

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Yo...Yo...Israel offered Arafat / PLO everything they wanted for peace EXCEPT for East Jerusalem.
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 Arafat / PLO turnd them down !

East Jerusalem has always been a holy site for THREE religions - not just for one. The Palestine Mandate, the Balfour Declaration - neither of these contemplated any one government controlling the whole of Jerusalem.

But let us pretend that the only sticking point was East Jerusalem, and that Arafat and the PLO were fools to say no. Let's pretend that. This justifies murdering their great grandchildren how, precisely?

A slow rolling genocide is still a genocide, fruit filled strudel. 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:25 pm

A slow rolling genocide is still a genocide, fruit filled strudel.

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Speaking of fruit...did you look up the legal definition of genocide yet ?
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If you did...you would know Israel is not committing it...wouldn't you ???
 
 

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 9:51 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:51 pm

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Speaking of fruit...did you look up the legal definition of genocide yet ?
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If you did...you would know Israel is not committing it...wouldn't you ???

Why don't you link me to the LEGAL definition of genocide, fruitcake?
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm

Why don't you link me to the LEGAL definition of genocide, fruitcake?

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I don't know how to but I will explain it to you.
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Genocide...is when you attempt to kill everyone because they different the host country; etc.
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Israel told those civilians anyone who is not down with hamas...get the **** out of the way.

They are not attempting to kill all the Palis...just the terrorist.
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And iif some was brought up for war crimes...that is a term they might use; there are many others.
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In contemporary international law the crime of genocide is part of the broader category of “crimes against humanity,” which were defined by the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nürnberg Charter).
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.gen·o·cide/ [ˈjenəˌsīd]

NOUN

The deliberate killing or severe mistreatment of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm

Why don't you link me to the LEGAL definition of genocide, fruitcake?

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Do you have wax in your ears ?  I just told you I don't know how !
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.Criticisms of the genocide convention

Although the convention has enjoyed near unanimous international support and although the prohibition of genocide has become, according to the International Court of Justice, a peremptory norm (jus cogens [Latin: “compelling law”]) of international law, the convention has often been criticized for excluding political and social groups from the list of possible victims of genocide. The so-called “intentionality clause” of the convention’s definition of genocide—the part that mentions the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”—also is problematic.
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If you get a old dictionary you can see how the  ultraliberals have changed the mean to suit the agenda.

It is not the definition of the guy who coined the word. 
 
 
 

Old Mack
is coffin shopping...

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:54 pm

Why don't you link me to the LEGAL definition of genocide, fruitcake?

I don't know how to but I will explain it to you.

You're the one who kept harping on the LEGAL definition, dude.

This is starting out kinda weird. I mean, demanding I find the LEGAL definition rather implies there is one, and you've seen it, and my usage fails to conform. All of that is implied when you keep insisting I am wrong and should check the legal definition. And now, you admit you do not know where to find the legal definition.
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MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm

Genocide...is when you attempt to kill everyone because they different the host country; etc.
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Israel told those civilians anyone who is not down with hamas...get the **** out of the way.

But they did not tell them where the "way" was. If you do not know whether you are IN the "way" or OUT of the "way," then you cannot "get" out of the "way."

Also, if they DID know where the "way" was, don't you suppose they would put the israeli hostages in the "way"? Isn't israel telling them they're going to bomb the "way" kind of dangerous to their own people, if the palis figure out where the "way" is? I mean, they'll just pop the damned hostages right there in the "way." Don't you genociders always ASSURE US that the palis sorta LIKE the old human shield two step? Isn't that YOUR argument?

And one more thing. Hitler was EXTREMELY clear with the jews that they should get out of the "way." Hell, he was so committed to avoiding any genocide that he even went the extra mile and DEFINED the "way."

The "way" was Europe. So every jew was very clear for several YEARS - not just a few hours - where the "way" was that they needed to get the **** out of.

You DO realize you just admitted the israelis are less committed to avoiding genocide than hitler was - yes? Hitler gave them years and defined the "way." Israel gave them hours and did NOT tell them where the "way" that they needed to get the **** out of was.

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:04 pm

The deliberate killing or severe mistreatment of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

Pretty sure that defines israel's treatment of the palis to a TEE, son.

Wow. All this, and I was using the word correctly in the first place.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 10:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:18 pm

You're the one who kept harping on the LEGAL definition, dude.

This is starting out kinda weird. I mean, demanding I find the LEGAL definition rather implies there is one, 
But they did not tell the where the "way" was. If you do not know whether you are IN the "way" or OUT of the "way," you cannot "get out of the way."


...And one more thing. Hitler was EXTREMELY clear with the jews that they should get out of the "way." Hell, he was so committed to avoiding any genocide that he even went the extra mile and DEFINED the "way."


Pretty sure that defines israel's treatment of the palis to a TEE, son.

 

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Point1: I never demanded you look up a word.  You are diverting from the truth and are getting further out there.

Point 2:  I said look up the word and you will see according to the LEGAL definition.  They don't bring up on charges because ultraliberals say...this what it means accord to us.  WTF  is worng with you ?

Point 3: Again, you are diverting by using what hitlers' plan was. 

Point 4: You are a **** fruit loop !

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 10:27 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:27 pm

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Point1: I never demanded you look up a word.  You are diverting from the truth and are getting further out there.

Point 2:  I said look up the word and you will see according to the LEGAL definition.  They don't bring up on charges because ultraliberals say...this what it means accord to us.  WTF  is worng with you ?

Point 3: Again, you are diverting by using what hitlers' plan was. 

Point 4: You are a **** fruit loop !

1. Is the loneliest number.
2. Can be as bad as 1 - it's the loneliest number since the number wu-hun. 

"Get the **** out of the way" doesn't mean anything unless they say PRECISELY where the bombs are going to drop to stick the hostages. 

Hurry - don't be retarded.

Quick!
 

The JOOs did !
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They said we are going to bomb any where the terroist were hiding.
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You don't seem to understand dude...Israel has declared war on these no good MOFO.  
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Cannonpointer » 23 Oct 2023, 10:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 10:18 pm

You're the one who kept harping on the LEGAL definition, dude.

 

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That is right...CNN and ultraliberals opinions don't matter in a court of law.
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cockpointer...I am sorry that I am smarter than you.
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What the **** do I have to dod...hit you in the head with a safe ?
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CNN who loves throwing the word around is just in it for the $$$ and the ultraliberals are just in it for the agenda.
 
 

PhiloBeddo » 23 Oct 2023, 4:48 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 4:48 pm

They are **** terrorists. Bomb them to oblivion.

Ancestries not accepting what isn't possible come in each reality believing anything else is possible and the game of which ideology inherits the earth has all fighting within the same species on which side governs tomorrow next 6 to 10 generation gaps left occupying time each generation added beyond here.

Everyone navigates getting eternally separate in their own skin but each social identity won't believe it is taking place now.

The UN charter has a resolution stating the
RIGHT OF A PEOPLE'S SELF DETERMINATION.

Palestine is not allowed to be a State
because the West are still
colonizers and thieves.

This is why countries are flocking to a new
structure in the East. Peace and prosperity.

Sumela » 24 Oct 2023, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

24 Oct 2023, 8:43 am

The UN charter has a resolution stating the
RIGHT OF A PEOPLE'S SELF DETERMINATION.

Palestine is not allowed to be a State
because the West are still
colonizers and thieves.

This is why countries are flocking to a new
structure in the East. Peace and prosperity.

Self determination to accomplish what in real time evolving?

you are full of ideas about organizing tomorrow, but I dare you to explain evolving one at a time today as eternally separated specifically in your own skin, now, since conceived to replace the 30 lifetimes that were your specific 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents.

Bet you avoid the challenge and caricaturize me as anything but equally adapting to time inhabiting space now reproduction sustaining current population alive in plain sight.

MackTheFinger » 23 Oct 2023, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Oct 2023, 9:11 pm

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Yo...Yo...Israel offered Arafat / PLO everything they wanted for peace EXCEPT for East Jerusalem.
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 Arafat / PLO turnd them down !

That's a bald faced lie .....
what Israel didn't offer was a right to self determination ......

 

Majik » 24 Oct 2023, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

24 Oct 2023, 9:54 am

That's a bald faced lie .....
what Israel didn't offer was a right to self determination ......

^^^^^^
Truth Bomb