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Majik » 03 Nov 2023, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2023, 11:47 am

Yep, ole Theodor Herzl was no fan of religious Judaism .....
Most people don't know how secular Zionism and the Zionists worked diligently against Religious Judaism and even collaborated with Hitler to try and  exterminate it ....

I am compelled to say I’ve been getting quite an education. 
 

10/7 was an A.I. job!

Tempest62 » 03 Nov 2023, 4:40 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2023, 4:40 pm

That’s also my understanding. Messianic Jews. ie complete Jews, are the ones that will be saved….the rest will be going straight to hell.

By Messianic Jews do you mean those who believe Jesus Chris is their ONLY savior
and they CAN NEVER be saved by following OT law?
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Nov 2023, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2023, 11:07 am

From noble beginnings, you have slid into a weak and insipid condition.

The best part of you ran down your mama's *** crack.

nope

**** you and the apparent horse you rode in on...
 

Cannonpointer » 03 Nov 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2023, 11:05 am

God has not re-established Israel, dolt.

 

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 12:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 12:53 am

nope

**** you and the apparent horse you rode in on...

Grow a pair, boy. If you were honest, you would admit that you want israel to murder every palestinian and the US to pay for it. 
 

Sumela » 03 Nov 2023, 9:24 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2023, 9:24 pm

By Messianic Jews do you mean those who believe Jesus Chris is their ONLY savior
and they CAN NEVER be saved by following OT law?
 

You ever put denial back together again? You have freemasons erecting monuments to thespians that fooled people for generations separating philosophy from psychological class warfare where both employ mind over matter tactics operating from context over content supplying people demanding symbolism over substance ways to believe now isn't eternity every generation gap forward here...


Recite Humpty Dumpty or Midas Touch, or Emperor's New Clothes.

Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 1:10 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 1:10 am

Grow a pair, boy. If you were honest, you would admit that you want israel to murder every palestinian and the US to pay for it.

     No I don't, nor do I want Hamas to do it either...

     I'm actually a conscientious objector...I carry dual citizenship with canaduh and would have gone there had my draft number come up during Nam...

     My father was born in 1920 in Halle and Mother in 1927 in Dresden...the old man served on a U-boat as a radio operator, was captured in '41 and spent 5 yrs in an AZ POW camp while my mother as a teenager hopped freight trains going west fleeing advancing Russian troops who were raping, and murdering Germans in retaliation...

     His silence, her stories and personal interaction with WWI & WWII VA patients during HS taught me everything I wanted to know about war...there are NO WINNERS...

     I didn't buy in to the WMD drumbeats of GEE-dubya or spending 20, yes TWENTY **** years in Afghanistan...especially knowing full well the Ruskies got their asses handed to them after 12...

     Like Russia and Ukraine, the crap going on in Israel means nothing to me as I have no skin in either game...so there's NO SIDE to pick, favor, condone or otherwise...

     What does piss me off, is our gubment feels the need to be involved in every little thing going on in any part of the world at any given time...especially in the name of "democracy"...now that's a **** joke...printing money that is non existent throwing it around like candy at a parade supporting this type of **** while not giving a **** about its own citizens...and you're right, our border should be our top priority vs their **** borders...

and don't forget the unaccounted for $22 TRILLION in military budgeting since LBJ...WTF?
 
 
 

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am

     No I don't, nor do I want Hamas to do it either...

     I'm actually a conscientious objector...I carry dual citizenship with canaduh and would have gone there had my draft number come up during Nam...

     My father was born in 1920 in Halle and Mother in 1927 in Dresden...the old man served on a U-boat as a radio operator, was captured in '41 and spent 5 yrs in an AZ POW camp while my mother as a teenager hopped freight trains going west fleeing advancing Russian troops who were raping, and murdering Germans in retaliation...

     His silence, her stories and personal interaction with WWI & WWII VA patients during HS taught me everything I wanted to know about war...there are NO WINNERS...

     I didn't buy in to the WMD drumbeats of GEE-dubya or spending 20, yes TWENTY **** years in Afghanistan...especially knowing full well the Ruskies got their asses handed to them after 12...

     Like Russia and Ukraine, the crap going on in Israel means nothing to me as I have no skin in either game...so there's NO SIDE to pick, favor, condone or otherwise...

     What does piss me off, is our gubment feels the need to be involved in every little thing going on in any part of the world at any given time...especially in the name of "democracy"...now that's a **** joke...printing money that is non existent throwing it around like candy at a parade supporting this type of **** while not giving a **** about its own citizens...and you're right, our border should be our top priority vs their **** borders...
 
 

You used the term, "no skin in the game", why? How do you not have any skin in the game being part of the same species limited to genetics eternally separating the actual population occupying time now?

Perpetual balancing universe keeps everything connected in series parallel time details get separates as spontaneously cycling through space here now.

Your body was never same form twice since conceived. Neither is any other type of ancestries native in this atmosphere alone, one ata time simultaneously alive since conceived until dead and that includes remaining 16 great great grandparents or siblings that aren't great great grandparents.

8 great grandparents and siblings without great grandchildren ever conceived or died before they die 4 grandparents same scenario as the two parenting each last generation arrival of their previous generation gaps evolving just repeats the cycles every cycle until no great great grandchildren arrive ever agin and the previous 4 generation gaps are dead.

Extinction event without relative time semantics. Understand what it is to live eternally separated now. You never believed it is possible, and your brain adapts to living doesn't exceed being alive now.

Chain your mind and stop playing the role of a collective soul.

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am

     No I don't, nor do I want Hamas to do it either...

     I'm actually a conscientious objector...I carry dual citizenship with canaduh and would have gone there had my draft number come up during Nam...

     My father was born in 1920 in Halle and Mother in 1927 in Dresden...the old man served on a U-boat as a radio operator, was captured in '41 and spent 5 yrs in an AZ POW camp while my mother as a teenager hopped freight trains going west fleeing advancing Russian troops who were raping, and murdering Germans in retaliation...

     His silence, her stories and personal interaction with WWI & WWII VA patients during HS taught me everything I wanted to know about war...there are NO WINNERS...

     I didn't buy in to the WMD drumbeats of GEE-dubya or spending 20, yes TWENTY **** years in Afghanistan...especially knowing full well the Ruskies got their asses handed to them after 12...

     Like Russia and Ukraine, the crap going on in Israel means nothing to me as I have no skin in either game...so there's NO SIDE to pick, favor, condone or otherwise...

     What does piss me off, is our gubment feels the need to be involved in every little thing going on in any part of the world at any given time...especially in the name of "democracy"...now that's a **** joke...printing money that is non existent throwing it around like candy at a parade supporting this type of **** while not giving a **** about its own citizens...and you're right, our border should be our top priority vs their **** borders...

The winners in war are the US military industrial corporations and related corporations that profit immensely from war...usually from both sides with US taxpayers going further and further into debt as the government HAS NO MONEY.

My grandfather (born 1904) taught me to hate war.  He somehow saw to it that I got a 1Y classification when I turned 18 and therefore would not be drafted into the Nam ****.
 

Nostradamus'omh » 04 Nov 2023, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:46 am

You used the term, "no skin in the game", why? How do you not have any skin in the game being part of the same species limited to genetics eternally separating the actual population occupying time now?

Perpetual balancing universe keeps everything connected in series parallel time details get separates as spontaneously cycling through space here now.

Your body was never same form twice since conceived. Neither is any other type of ancestries native in this atmosphere alone, one ata time simultaneously alive since conceived until dead and that includes remaining 16 great great grandparents or siblings that aren't great great grandparents.

8 great grandparents and siblings without great grandchildren ever conceived or died before they die 4 grandparents same scenario as the two parenting each last generation arrival of their previous generation gaps evolving just repeats the cycles every cycle until no great great grandchildren arrive ever agin and the previous 4 generation gaps are dead.

Extinction event without relative time semantics. Understand what it is to live eternally separated now. You never believed it is possible, and your brain adapts to living doesn't exceed being alive now.

Chain your mind and stop playing the role of a collective soul.

 I have no personal ties with anyone in those regions, hence, no skin in the game...
 

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:56 am

 I have no personal ties with anyone in those regions, hence, no skin in the game...
 

Does your brain understand what separates exponential whole from all existential parts working in series parallel time occupying space now? it is the complete bigger picture without dividing life into time frames of anything else is possible.

Buffalo » 04 Nov 2023, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:53 am

The winners in war are the US military industrial corporations and related corporations that profit immensely from war...usually from both sides with US taxpayers going further and further into debt as the government HAS NO MONEY.

My grandfather (born 1904) taught me to hate war.  He somehow saw to it that I got a 1Y classification when I turned 18 and therefore would not be drafted into the Nam ****.

Exactly...I laughed when I heard the Rockefellers were fueling both sides of the Vietnamese war or that the central banks funded Germany, France, England and anyone who needed the monies during the 2 world wars...it's like, WTF?
 

Nostradamus'omh » 04 Nov 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:59 am

Does your brain understand what separates exponential whole from all existential parts working in series parallel time occupying space now? it is the complete bigger picture without dividing life into time frames of anything else is possible.

comprehend or care? I choose the latter...

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 9:00 am

Exactly...I laughed when I heard the Rockefellers were fueling both sides of the Vietnamese war or that the central banks funded Germany, France, England and anyone who needed the monies during the 2 world wars...it's like, WTF?
 

Economics is the soul of every reality as genetics delivers the soles left alive pretending now isn't eternity.

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 9:02 am

comprehend or care? I choose the latter...

empathy vs apathy. there is no sympathy for people lost in self deception even when it is the majority of one's own ancestral lineage and species taking sides disagreeing now has always been the time genetics eternally separates the numbers left alive forward here.

There is an old belief nobody can disprove a negative, I can use compounding chromosomes to do just that. Every character serving humanity any generation gap historically lived or living doesn't accept now is eternity in plain sight one's own body never duplicated itself since arriving a fertilized cell.

I do understand how evolving happens beyond theories and theologies.

My brain navigates empathically and apathetically not allowing my emotions to direct my instinctive responses when people defame the character humanity demands I defend until dead.
Love and hate are emotional sides to same emotion and rejected or accepted by others describes the behavior of individuals experiencing one or the other.

So for a brain to not get trapped in programmed mind responses, one has to accept how evolving works naturally here to not fall prey to power of suggesting now isn't eternity.

Sole time displaced vs souls believing now isn't eternity within your own species and ancestral lineages.

Apathy respects genetic time, empathy allows one's brain to understand where love and hate lead people to destroy themselves agreeing to disagree how evolving actually happens here.

Like you I don't care, but I am stuck with the outcome of everyone else ignoring how evolving happens in plain sight as rule of law punishes me anytime I resist deniers on any side.

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 9:00 am

Exactly...I laughed when I heard the Rockefellers were fueling both sides of the Vietnamese war or that the central banks funded Germany, France, England and anyone who needed the monies during the 2 world wars...it's like, WTF?

Look at all the US corporations that helped Germany during WWII...

8 American Companies That Worked with the Nazis During World War II | Phactual Magazine
 

Buffalo » 04 Nov 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 9:39 am

Look at all the US corporations that helped Germany during WWII...

8 American Companies That Worked with the Nazis During World War II | Phactual Magazine

not surprised...noted tho is that most of this transpired prior to the war or when the full gist of what was actually going on was grasped...
 
 

ROG62 » 04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 8:28 am

     No I don't, nor do I want Hamas to do it either...

     I'm actually a conscientious objector...I carry dual citizenship with canaduh and would have gone there had my draft number come up during Nam...

     My father was born in 1920 in Halle and Mother in 1927 in Dresden...the old man served on a U-boat as a radio operator, was captured in '41 and spent 5 yrs in an AZ POW camp while my mother as a teenager hopped freight trains going west fleeing advancing Russian troops who were raping, and murdering Germans in retaliation...

     His silence, her stories and personal interaction with WWI & WWII VA patients during HS taught me everything I wanted to know about war...there are NO WINNERS...

     I didn't buy in to the WMD drumbeats of GEE-dubya or spending 20, yes TWENTY **** years in Afghanistan...especially knowing full well the Ruskies got their asses handed to them after 12...

     Like Russia and Ukraine, the crap going on in Israel means nothing to me as I have no skin in either game...so there's NO SIDE to pick, favor, condone or otherwise...

     What does piss me off, is our gubment feels the need to be involved in every little thing going on in any part of the world at any given time...especially in the name of "democracy"...now that's a **** joke...printing money that is non existent throwing it around like candy at a parade supporting this type of **** while not giving a **** about its own citizens...and you're right, our border should be our top priority vs their **** borders...

and don't forget the unaccounted for $22 TRILLION in military budgeting since LBJ...WTF?

That's a good read. Almost makes me forget about your post calling israel "G_d's" favorite.

Almost makes me forget the enormous gulf betwixt your sophisticated, statistician-quality skepticism of evidence against israel and your trailer park gee whizzing at evidence against the palis. You demand a translation of a video that is so obvious as to elicit the phrase res ipsa loquitur, while gosh-darning right past an alleged intercepted communication between agents of Hamas that is generated IN ENGLISH - Hamas' preferred tongue for communication, apparently.
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Nov 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Nov 2023, 12:50 pm

That's a good read. Almost makes me forget about your post calling israel "G_d's" favorite.

Almost makes me forget the enormous gulf betwixt your sophisticated, statistician-quality skepticism of evidence against israel and your trailer park gee whizzing at evidence against the palis. You demand a translation of a video that is so obvious as to elicit the phrase res ipsa loquitur, while gosh-darning right past an alleged intercepted communication between agents of Hamas that is generated IN ENGLISH - Hamas' preferred tongue for communication, apparently.

See here's the deal...playing the devil's advocate is fun...seeing sumella get bent over **** we have no control over causes me to uncontrollably goad...(don't get me wrong, I love the guy dearly as he is always pretty much spot on...about tits)

you liked the "G_d's chosen", did ya?    that was just me pokin the bear...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FM9F6ChszQ

like I said, no skin in the game...I couldn't give a rats' *** until it's at my door...