We have gone over that with you so many times, and you incessantly ignore the real answers. You prefer to buy into the same old narrative...."Israel tried, they didn't want it." Blah blah blah....Do you enjoy intentionally ignoring the details because it is convenient for you?Neo » 09 Nov 2023, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑ After three offers of two state solutions were answered with violence, why should there be a fourth?
Details could have been negotiated, not answered with "you have only offered us 95% of what we asked for, including a shared Capitol of Jerusalem. **** you, we kill you!" The fact you think a 95% offer justifies intifada indicates you are indoctrinated. Read the deals, tell us why they weren't negotiated rather than being met with violence.Vegas » 09 Nov 2023, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑ We have gone over that with you so many times, and you incessantly ignore the real answers. You prefer to buy into the same old narrative...."Israel tried, they didn't want it." Blah blah blah....Do you enjoy intentionally ignoring the details because it is convenient for you?
Liar. You have no interest in Palis having a state.Neo » 09 Nov 2023, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑ Details could have been negotiated, not answered with "you have only offered us 95% of what we asked for, including a shared Capitol of Jerusalem. **** you, we kill you!" The fact you think a 95% offer justifies intifada indicates you are indoctrinated. Read the deals, tell us why they weren't negotiated rather than being met with violence.
I feel sorry for innocent people dying on both sides of this conflict but the blame for not having a state of their own is on the Palestinian leaders.
No, I was all for a two state solution. Give Arafat the Nobel Peace Pize, bring on a stable two state Israel and Palestine. I wanted peaceful coexistence in that region, a place considered holy by three quarters of the world's population. When they walked away from that deal and started an Intifada they lost some sympathy. When Gaza elected hamas into power they lost the rest. **** Palestine.Sumela » 09 Nov 2023, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑ Liar. You have no interest in Palis having a state.
Yer a fake prophecy boy. aka....An empire boy.
Youd be for Israel even violently taking over Syria and Lebanon....You know, Gods NT providence![]()
They knew Pissrael would never follow through on the deal in good faith.Neo » 09 Nov 2023, 6:22 pm » wrote: ↑ No, I was all for a two state solution. Give Arafat the Nobel Peace Pize, bring on a stable two state Israel and Palestine. I wanted peaceful coexistence in that region, a place considered holy by three quarters of the world's population. When they walked away from that deal and started an Intifada they lost some sympathy. When Gaza elected hamas into power they lost the rest. **** Palestine.
It was actually catholic charities and the Lutheran brotherhood...Cannonpointer » 09 Nov 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ They are a case in point. They were aggravatingly caucasian and functional and rational and healthy and happy.
That could not stand. {{{They}}} fixed it.
By the way, {{{they}}} means jews.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Next up, "AlJazeera's controlled by the Jews...."Skans » 09 Nov 2023, 7:42 am » wrote: ↑ I found this and thought it was interesting as to "who's land" it was.
"Between 1922 and 1935, the Jewish population rose (in Palestine) from nine percent to nearly 27 percent of the total population, displacing tens of thousands of Palestinian tenants from their lands as Zionists bought land from Palestinian land owners. Leading Arab and Palestinian intellectuals openly warned against the motifs of the Zionist movement in the press as early as 1908. With the Nazi seizure of power in Germany between 1933 and 1936, 30,000 to 60,000 European Jews arrived on the shores of Palestine.
In 1936, Palestinian Arabs launched a large-scale uprising against the British and their support for Zionist settler-colonialism (Jews buying land) known as the Arab Revolt. (So, the Arabs drew first blood over Jews buying Palestine) The British authorities crushed the revolt, which lasted until 1939, violently...."
And, that's as reported by Islamic Press AlJazeera https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017 ... nd-in-1948. So, Is AlJazeera confirming that the Jews bought the land and then the Arabs went to war to try and take it back?
So, back to your original question - did the Zionist Jews fight for the land or conquer it? Looks like they just bough it, and then had to fight to keep it.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Providence...Vegas » 09 Nov 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑ Why do you think that Israel gets attacked so much in the first place?
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Prophecy...fulfilled by G_d using the UN...Vegas » 09 Nov 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Before the war, Jews lived just find all through Europe and the United States. Why did they need their own land? They didn't. They could have gone back to their other countries where they lived before the war. They wanted Zionism. That means they want more than just the land of Palestine. That land is considered their holy land. Well...tough ****. What makes their religion more important than any other religion? They want more in order for Zionism to come to fruition. Zionism is a cult. Israel is a cult. If they wanted their own land, then conquer it with your own military like every other country does.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom You know the best way not to get a state? Make war on Israel.Sumela » 09 Nov 2023, 6:25 pm » wrote: ↑ They knew Pissrael would never follow through on the deal in good faith.
The West can never be trusted. Putin and Xi have finally learned this. Its glorious!
I won't read any farther. **** is usually followed by more ****.Neo » 09 Nov 2023, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑ After three offers of two state solutions were answered with violence, why should there be a fourth?
When a navvy seal named clarence kills a kid in ****, the US did that. I don't care who carried the water - it's who gives the orders, who sets the agenda, that matters to me.ROG62 » 09 Nov 2023, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑ It was actually catholic charities and the Lutheran brotherhood...
Neo » 09 Nov 2023, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑ Details could have been negotiated, not answered with "you have only offered us 95% of what we asked for, including a shared Capitol of Jerusalem. **** you, we kill you!" The fact you think a 95% offer justifies intifada indicates you are indoctrinated. Read the deals, tell us why they weren't negotiated rather than being met with violence.
I feel sorry for innocent people dying on both sides of this conflict but the blame for not having a state of their own is on the Palestinian leaders.
It was a slave revolt.
That’s a not so accurate history of the Jews.Vegas » 09 Nov 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Before the war, Jews lived just find all through Europe and the United States. Why did they need their own land? They didn't. They could have gone back to their other countries where they lived before the war. They wanted Zionism. That means they want more than just the land of Palestine. That land is considered their holy land. Well...tough ****. What makes their religion more important than any other religion? They want more in order for Zionism to come to fruition. Zionism is a cult. Israel is a cult. If they wanted their own land, then conquer it with your own military like every other country does.
Yes? And they were living just fine in Europe until WW2, right?Vegas » 09 Nov 2023, 9:02 pm » wrote: ↑ I am not giving the whole history dating back 3k years ago. I am talking about where they lived up until the war.
Str8tEdge » 09 Nov 2023, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes? And they were living just fine in Europe until WW2, right?You might want to take a closer look at that….