Should Mentally Ill People Be Allowed To Die???

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By Skans
20 Nov 2023 3:39 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Mrkelly » 29 Nov 2023, 10:38 am » wrote: might not be an I in “team”

but there is a “me”  :LOL:  
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29 Nov 2023 3:20 pm
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Skans » 20 Nov 2023, 4:39 pm » wrote: I'm talking about the severely F-ed up people.  People who have chronic depression and just want to kill themselves.  Schizophrenics who can't stay on their meds, wonder the street yelling at imaginary people.  Paranoid delusional who whole up inside some dump of a house.

There is no cure for these people.  There is barely any treatment for them, certainly no treatment that really works.  I once knew this lady who lived in a condo that her parents bought for her.  She would scream and yell at people (and often at nobody) like a rabid dog for no reason.  They would call the cops on her and lock her up in a hospital for 3 days.  Then, she's out again.  I think the Condo finally got her kicked out.  She was scaring little children.
Progressively speaking yes...but once the political value of the mentally ill diminishes the word "allow" will be stricken....the choice to die is only temporary

“I object to all punishment whatsoever. I don't want to punish anybody, but there are an extraordinary number of people who I want to kill. Not in any unkind or personal spirit. But it must be evident to all of you, you must all know half a dozen people at least, who are no use in this world; who are more trouble than they are worth. And I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly appointed board just as he might come before the income tax commissioners and say every 5 years or every 7 years, just put them there, and say, sir or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence?

If you can’t justify your existence; if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat; if you are not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then clearly we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us, and it can’t be of very much use to yourself.”

― George Bernard Shaw
 
 
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nefarious101 » 29 Nov 2023, 4:20 pm » wrote: Progressively speaking yes...but once the political value of the mentally ill diminishes the word "allow" will be stricken....the choice to die is only temporary

“I object to all punishment whatsoever. I don't want to punish anybody, but there are an extraordinary number of people who I want to kill. Not in any unkind or personal spirit. But it must be evident to all of you, you must all know half a dozen people at least, who are no use in this world; who are more trouble than they are worth. And I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly appointed board just as he might come before the income tax commissioners and say every 5 years or every 7 years, just put them there, and say, sir or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence?

If you can’t justify your existence; if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat; if you are not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then clearly we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us, and it can’t be of very much use to yourself.”

― George Bernard Shaw
 
 
So you quote other people without your own thinking. A character' soul is the context of scripted role playing on a world stage of people pretending nobody knew how evolving was self evident in global current events.
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Nostradamus'omh » 29 Nov 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: So you quote other people without your own thinking. A character' soul is the context of scripted role playing on a world stage of people pretending nobody knew how evolving was self evident in global current events.

yeah.....ever said something someone else has said before?  As far as thinking I'm sure a lot of people didn't know Shaw said things like that?...of course like anything at all...other people will complain about it...as well as anything else they can find to bitch about...some people are just compulsive complainers 
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29 Nov 2023 4:15 pm
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nefarious101 » 29 Nov 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: yeah.....ever said something someone else has said before?  As far as thinking I'm sure a lot of people didn't know Shaw said things like that?...of course like anything at all...other people will complain about it...as well as anything else they can find to bitch about...some people are just compulsive complainers 
Yes and explain what they left out.
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Nostradamus'omh » 29 Nov 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: Yes and explain what they left out.

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29 Nov 2023 4:58 pm
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Nostradamus'omh » 29 Nov 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: Yes and explain what they left out.
It was a presentation of what someone once said....take it for the words spoken, not for the opinion of someone who brought it to your attention....my opinion has no sway over his words
 
 
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nefarious101 » 29 Nov 2023, 5:58 pm » wrote: It was a presentation of what someone once said....take it for the words spoken, not for the opinion of someone who brought it to your attention....my opinion has no sway over his words
 
 
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29 Nov 2023 8:19 pm
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Skans » 20 Nov 2023, 4:39 pm » wrote: I'm talking about the severely F-ed up people.  People who have chronic depression and just want to kill themselves.  Schizophrenics who can't stay on their meds, wonder the street yelling at imaginary people.  Paranoid delusional who whole up inside some dump of a house.

There is no cure for these people.  There is barely any treatment for them, certainly no treatment that really works.  I once knew this lady who lived in a condo that her parents bought for her.  She would scream and yell at people (and often at nobody) like a rabid dog for no reason.  They would call the cops on her and lock her up in a hospital for 3 days.  Then, she's out again.  I think the Condo finally got her kicked out.  She was scaring little children.

How do you know there is no cure? That's just an assumption based on mainstream "medicine."
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29 Nov 2023 8:53 pm
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LowIQTrash » 29 Nov 2023, 9:19 pm » wrote: How do you know there is no cure? That's just an assumption based on mainstream "medicine."
Because, I know, there is no cure. Schizophrenia, Manic-Depressive, Delusional Paranoia - they wouldn't survive without someone spoon feeding them, and they probably are doomed even if they are.
 
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29 Nov 2023 9:41 pm
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Skans » 29 Nov 2023, 9:53 pm » wrote: Because, I know, there is no cure. Schizophrenia, Manic-Depressive, Delusional Paranoia - they wouldn't survive without someone spoon feeding them, and they probably are doomed even if they are.
More like there is a cure and we just haven't discovered it. And by "we" I mean publicly available medical science. Who knows what the **** goes on behind closed lab doors.

I don't know why you have to complicate this problem - back then they were just sent to mental institutions. 
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LowIQTrash » 29 Nov 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: More like there is a cure and we just haven't discovered it. And by "we" I mean publicly available medical science. Who knows what the **** goes on behind closed lab doors.

I don't know why you have to complicate this problem - back then they were just sent to mental institutions.
.....mental institutions, where they were sedated to near death and spoon-fed.  That's not life.  That's just warehousing bodies hoping they will die out of he public's eye.
 
 
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Skans » 29 Nov 2023, 9:53 pm » wrote: Because, I know, there is no cure. Schizophrenia, Manic-Depressive, Delusional Paranoia - they wouldn't survive without someone spoon feeding them, and they probably are doomed even if they are.
 
Understand the cause. There never was that kind of mental illness until language arts trained every brain to ignore how evolving actually works now.

A cultivated mind controls many brains with the desire to be more than their genetic time displaced within an ever changing population arriving one at a time..
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30 Nov 2023 7:14 am
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Nostradamus'omh » 30 Nov 2023, 6:45 am » wrote: Understand the cause. There never was that kind of mental illness until language arts trained every brain to ignore how evolving actually works now.

A cultivated mind controls many brains with the desire to be more than their genetic time displaced within an ever changing population arriving one at a time..
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Skans » 30 Nov 2023, 8:14 am » wrote: Sorry dude, you'd likely not make it on the "list".
that is a good thing.
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