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MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm

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Listen you fruit cake...don't words in my mouth...I did not say that; you did ?
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You do know Israel has declared war on hamas...right; this is not punish...this is not a skirmishe. 
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It is a effort to destroy a enemy...who constantly attacks Israel.  And I am sure you know what the word terrorist / terrorism means !
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BTW:  When you went to Gaza how many starving children did you actually see or did the Commie News Network tell you ?  There are starving in America or our 51 state Mexico...you think that is something new ?  You musta been hang out with cockpointer to much and he rubbed off on you ! 
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https://apnews.com/article/un-security- ... 8a83493835


UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.S. vetoed a U.N. resolution Wednesday to condemn all violence against civilians in the Israel-Hamas war and to urge humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza, saying it was too early to craft an appropriate Security Council response to the crisis.U.S. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield said the council needs to allow current diplomatic efforts, including by President Joe Biden, to unfold and to find out more facts on the ground first. She also criticized the measure for failing to underline Israel’s right to self-defense.The resolution sponsored by Brazil had wide support and would have condemned all violence against civilians, including “the heinous terrorists attacks by Hamas” against Israel. The vote in the 15-member Security Council was 12 votes in favor and the U.S. against, with Russia and Britain abstaining.Thomas-Greenfield said that Biden was in the region engaging in diplomacy hoping to protect civilians, secure the release of hostage and prevent the conflict from spreading. “We need to let that diplomacy play out,” she said
 
 

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https://theintercept.com/2023/11/13/gaz ... -genocide/


A GROUP OF Palestinian human rights organizations, residents of Gaza, and U.S. citizens with family members impacted by Israel’s ongoing assault jointly sued President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin on Monday for failing to “prevent an unfolding genocide.”

The 89-page lawsuit, filed by the Center for Constitutional Rights in a California federal district court, traces 75 years of history and analyzes acts committed and rhetoric espoused by the Israeli government that exhibit a disregard for international law. It is accompanied by a declaration from a genocide expert who describes Israel’s actions as signs of genocide and argues that the Biden administration has breached its duty under international law to prevent it.

“Under international law, the United States has a duty to take all measures available to it to prevent a genocide. Yet, Defendants have repeatedly refused to use their obvious and considerable influence to set conditions or place limits on Israel’s massive bombing and total siege of Gaza,” the lawsuit reads.

“Despite escalating evidence of Israeli policies directed at inflicting mass harm to the Palestinian population in Gaza,” the Biden administration has opposed “a life-saving cease-fire and lifting of the siege, even vetoing United Nations measures calling for a ceasefire,” the lawsuit continues. “Instead, their actions to fund, arm, and endorse Israel’s mass and devastating bombing campaign and total siege of the Palestinians in Gaza constitutes a failure to prevent an unfolding genocide and complicity in its development.”
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 24 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm

Your media lies to you, stupid. 

Here ya go, stupid ****.

No charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edJmnbe0h0

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... scalation/


on March 20, 2023. (Ed Jones/AFP)The Biden administration blocked the UN Security Council from issuing a statement on the latest uptick in violence between Israelis and Palestinians, a senior Israeli official tells The Times of Israel.The Security Council held an emergency session today to discuss the recent violence in Jerusalem, and several members pushed for the top UN panel to issue a statement condemning Israel over the police beating of Muslim worshippers at Al-Aqsa on Monday night, according to a UN diplomat for a county on the panel.Some members were also pushing for the statement to include a condemnation of rocket fire at Israel from Gaza and Lebanon, the UN diplomat says.However, Israel pushed countries against issuing any statement, fearing that it would be used to draw an equivalency between its actions and those of terror groups, the senior Israeli official says.

jerrab » 24 Nov 2023, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 3:50 pm

biden stands by isael no matter what.

 

Point 1:  You did not answer my question but I did yours.
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Point 2:  Sleepy Joe should stand by Israel because they are our biggest allied in the Middle East and the JOOOs have **** since the begining of time.
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Point 3:  And now a quote from Old Mack: the agenda says...when face with irrefutable facts the dedicated must divert, clamor, be repetitious, equivocate or just totally ignore the argument. 
 

MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 4:02 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 4:02 pm

Point 1:  You did not answer my question but I did yours.
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Point 2:  Sleepy Joe should stand by Israel because they are our biggest allied in the Middle East and the JOOOs have **** since the begining of time.
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Point 3:  And now a quote from Old Mack: the agenda says...when face with irrefutable facts the dedicated must divert, clamor, be repetitious, equivocate or just totally ignore the argument.

what? how can I respond to  a post that says children starving to death is not a big deal.

it all boils down to biden and his supporters standing by israel no matter what.

MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm

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Listen you fruit cake...don't words in my mouth...I did not say that; you did ?
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You do know Israel has declared war on hamas...right; this is not punish...this is not a skirmishe. 
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It is a effort to destroy a enemy...who constantly attacks Israel.  And I am sure you know what the word terrorist / terrorism means !
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BTW:  When you went to Gaza how many starving children did you actually see or did the Commie News Network tell you ?  There are starving in America or our 51 state Mexico...you think that is something new ?  You musta been hang out with cockpointer to much and he rubbed off on you ! 
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/18/is ... edibility/


from may 2021The Middle East crisis—which has resulted in the deaths of more than 200 civilians, mostly Palestinian, and shredded the fabric of Israeli society—has flipped the U.S. script. The imbroglio has put Washington on the defensive over its commitment to human rights and provided China with an opportunity to showcase its multilateral credentials, aligning itself with traditional U.S. allies and the United Nations, which are seeking a role for the Security Council in publicly promoting a cease-fire.Facing growing international and domestic political pressure, U.S. President Joe Biden on Monday for the first time expressed support for a cease-fire in a phone conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—a full week into the crisis. But on the same day, the United States blocked yet another attempt by its Security Council counterparts to adopt a statement urging the warring parties to observe a cease-fire.
 

https://www.democracynow.org/2021/5/13/ ... end_itself

MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm

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Listen you fruit cake...don't words in my mouth...I did not say that; you did ?
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You do know Israel has declared war on hamas...right; this is not punish...this is not a skirmishe. 
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It is a effort to destroy a enemy...who constantly attacks Israel.  And I am sure you know what the word terrorist / terrorism means !
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BTW:  When you went to Gaza how many starving children did you actually see or did the Commie News Network tell you ?  There are starving in America or our 51 state Mexico...you think that is something new ?  You musta been hang out with cockpointer to much and he rubbed off on you ! 
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... escalation

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... scalation/

The Biden administration staunchly took Israel’s side today. State Department spokesperson Vedant Patel refused to condemn Israel’s storming of Al-Aqsa mosque during Ramadan, then went on to condemn rocket attacks coming from Gaza and Lebanon.And the U.S. also stepped in to block a U.N. Security Council statement to the press criticizing Israel for the raids, according to an Israeli official (speaking to an Israeli reporter). Jacob Magid reports that Israeli diplomats coordinated with the U.S.:

The UNSC held an emergency session today to discuss recent violence in Jerusalem & several members pushed for panel to issue a statement condemning Israel over police beating of Muslim worshippers at Al Aqsa on Monday night, according to a UN diplomat for a county on the panel. Some members were also pushing for the statement to include a condemnation of rocket fire at Israel from Gaza and Lebanon, per UN diplomat. Israel pushed against issuing any statement, fearing it would draw equivalency between its actions & terror groups, per senior Israeli official

 
 

MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 4:02 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 4:02 pm

Point 1:  You did not answer my question but I did yours.
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Point 2:  Sleepy Joe should stand by Israel because they are our biggest allied in the Middle East and the JOOOs have **** since the begining of time.
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Point 3:  And now a quote from Old Mack: the agenda says...when face with irrefutable facts the dedicated must divert, clamor, be repetitious, equivocate or just totally ignore the argument.

your crap that israel can do whatever it wants is for the birds.

jerrab » 24 Nov 2023, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 4:32 pm

your crap that israel can do whatever it wants is for the birds.

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...when face with irrefutable facts the dedicated must divert, clamor, be repetitious, equivocate or just totally ignore the argument.
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MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 5:01 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 5:01 pm

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when face with irrefutable facts the dedicated must divert, clamor, be repetitious, equivocate or just totally ignore the argument.

yep.  ignore them like you always do.

RedheadedStranger » 24 Nov 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 11:28 am

Israel Says Hamas Ceasefire Violated After 15 Minutes



https://www.newsweek.com/israel-hamas-c ... ip-1846564

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The Business Standard
www.tbsnews.net
Israel intensifying shelling throughout Gaza overnight as truce approaches


21 hours ago — Israel launches attacks across Gaza just hours before a four-day truce is set to begin at 7am local time (05:00 GMT) on Friday


 

jerrab » 24 Nov 2023, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 5:03 pm

yep.  ignore them like you always do.

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Listen fruit cake...I don't have cyber time to waste.
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Ask me any political question and I will answer it.
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MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 5:17 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 5:17 pm

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Listen fruit cake...I don't have cyber time to waste.
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Ask me any political question and I will answer it.
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Did Likud create Hamas ?
go...
 

Majik » 24 Nov 2023, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 5:23 pm

Did Likud create Hamas ?
go...

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IMHO...NO.  Jew hating has existed since the beginning of time...it is just better organized now of days. 
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I do not know really anything about Likud to give a real opinion other to say any right wing group to me is as bad as the far left.  They are fanatics with to much time on thier hands.
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But to answer your question as best I can...again, I would say NO but might have influenced them.  However according to what I just read the seeds of HAMAS were sown in the 60's.  I think cut throat politics in Israel influenced Likud more than Mohammad.
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Thank you for your question and God / Nature bless.
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nefarious101 » 24 Nov 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 1:34 pm

That's why the world should do anything and everything to eliminate the Gaza-Rat...they are less than human

Love and pray for your enemies. Hamas included. 
 

user1596146991 » 24 Nov 2023, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 6:18 pm

Love and pray for your enemies. Hamas included.

desperate huh?  well don't really expect much more than that from a gaza rat lover

MackTheFinger » 24 Nov 2023, 5:17 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 5:17 pm

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Listen fruit cake...I don't have cyber time to waste.
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Ask me any political question and I will answer it.
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okay.

do you think it is okay for israel to take 3 billion dollars a year from the US to terrorize gaza with it?

I thought everything is on track

jerrab » 24 Nov 2023, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Nov 2023, 8:09 pm

okay.

do you think it is okay for israel to take 3 billion dollars a year from the US to terrorize gaza with it?

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You are a hack !  HAMAS is the ones who terrorizes and all Israel does is respond to it.
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And yes because they are allied and if we ever need a Mobilization Point big time in the Middle East Israel will be there.
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Also...they feed the USA with intel or cooperate in things of that nature.
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Decades ago, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir said, “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.”
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