Derek Chauvin stabbed

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By Squatchman
24 Nov 2023 9:51 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: And that is assault - not murder. 

Whether it was murder depends on the coroner's report - not on how disgusting his actions were.
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.Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County’s chief medical examiner, said Floyd died after police “subdual, restraint and neck compression” caused his heart and lungs to stop. He said heart disease and drug use were factors but not the “top line” causes. He said Floyd had an enlarged heart that needed more oxygen than normal, as well as narrowed arteries.
 
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RedheadedStranger » 25 Nov 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: People like George Floyd require that type of reaction.

People like George Floyd kick in your front door and beat the hell out of your wife to steal **** to get their next fix.
There is not any question as to the veracity of these statements. Floyd was not worth a bullet. I'd have sport killed the creature.
RedheadedStranger » 25 Nov 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: People like you want to make a piece of garbage like George Floyd out to be a **** hero.
Idunno about that. Whatever Chauvin did to floyd, he could just as easily do to you or your son or daughter. He was a **** employee - and he swore an oath that he broke. Not all - or even most - people who seek to keep cops accountable are siding with criminals.
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jerrab » 25 Nov 2023, 2:57 pm » wrote: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-g ... 2530421961

CLAIM: A new autopsy report for George Floyd has been released in 2023, revealing he died from a drug overdose, not from the actions of arresting Minneapolis police officers.AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Social media users are sharing a page from the 20-page autopsy report that was publicly released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office in full on June 3, 2020. It has not been changed since. While the page says he had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system, and did not have “life-threatening injuries,” the full report concludes Floyd died from “cardiopulmonary arrest,” not an overdose.THE FACTS: As the three-year anniversary of Floyd’s death arrived on Thursday, some social media users shared what they erroneously claimed was new evidence about the circumstances of his passing.Many of the posts presented a page from an autopsy report that supposedly had not been made public before. One section on the page lists the drugs that were in Floyd’s system when he died, while another states, “no life-threatening injuries identified.”
It's not new evidence. I was bitching about this when it was first released. He died of a drug related heart attack. Drugs raised his blood pressure up the dangerous levels, resisting arrest brought on a heart attack. It was an overdose. It is indeed false these findings are new. 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 25 Nov 2023, 2:31 pm » wrote: If the State can railroad Chauvin like they did, then they can do it to anyone they please.

Don't cry if/when it happens to you.
I agree with you completely on this. 

But the same is true of chauvin's behavior. The despicable thing he did was done to a despicable creature that should not be suffered to live. But it was outside of the scope of his authority. It was punitive - and he is there to enforce the law, not punish offenders.
 
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Neo » 25 Nov 2023, 2:50 pm » wrote: No. Angles shown in police body cams show his knee was on Floyd's shoulder blade. Floyd was able to speak without issue, had a conversation with his long dead mommy.
False.

There isno audio of her responding. :)
Neo » 25 Nov 2023, 2:50 pm » wrote: The autopsy showed no bruises on his neck, no signs of strangulation or asphyxiation. No ruptured blood vessels in the whites of the eyes. He didn't die from an airway obstruction. He did have lethal levels of meth and fentanyl in his system. 19ng/ml of fentanyl. 3 is enough to be lethal to the average person. 19 would kill most street addicts. 

He swallowed his stash and died of an overdose. Knee had nothing to do with it.
Well done.
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Neo » 25 Nov 2023, 3:02 pm » wrote: It's not new evidence. I was bitching about this when it was first released. He died of a drug related heart attack. Drugs raised his blood pressure up the dangerous levels, resisting arrest brought on a heart attack. It was an overdose. It is indeed false these findings are new.
Yep.

And the autopsy purchased by the prosecutor claimed Floyd was completely healthy and that the knee on the neck was the sole cause of death... which was a complete lie.


 
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The Pig has the higher degree of duty to act

in a reasonable manner...

200 lbs on a neck and a guy gasping "I cant breathe"... is a problem.

So TWO PIGS....

one is dead

the other is a *** pin cushion

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jerrab » 25 Nov 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: he was on floyds neck too long.

So what? It was a matter of time before someone else killed that useless ***.
He's dead Jim!
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RedheadedStranger » 25 Nov 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: So now you want to imprison people for being racist.

Sounds about right.

Yeah, you were never a Naval officer.
If he was a naval officer I bet he wore his boxers with the hole in the back.
He's dead Jim!
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2023, 2:56 pm » wrote: I'm with you (and them).

What chauvin did was piggy. I GET it. Floyd was human ****. One tires. But he took - and broke - a **** oath. Chauvin was a piece of **** pig. He was george floyd with a badge.

So that's me, with you. Now, here's me with them:

APPARENTLY, the death was a drug overdose - not a knee on neck overdose. So, murder is not the charge. Official misconduct, official oppression, assault - these are the correct charges.
I agree with me and them also 

The optics of a smug **** cop not bothering more people is my problem 

the who,why and what are a different subject 

neither  of those *** should be accepted in a decent society 

  
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2023, 3:04 pm » wrote: I agree with you completely on this. 

But the same is true of chauvin's behavior. The despicable thing he did was done to a despicable creature that should not be suffered to live. But it was outside of the scope of his authority. It was punitive - and he is there to enforce the law, not punish offenders.
I believe any of the other officers present would have done the same thing Chauvin did because that's is exactly what they are trained to do.

In fact, two other officers were actually restraining Floyd the entire time as well on the other side of the cruiser, only out of view of the street photographer shooting the video.

The only reason they went after Chauvin so hard was because of where he ended up outside of the cruiser when Floyd wiggled his way out of the backseat while they were trying to arrest him.

Chauvin went down because the State needed a scapegoat and his was the face of the moment because of his dumb luck. Chauvin shouldn't have been scrutinized any more or less than the other three officers present, because any one of them would have done the same as he did given the circumstances.

 
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2023, 3:02 pm » wrote: There is not any question as to the veracity of these statements. Floyd was not worth a bullet. I'd have sport killed the creature.

Idunno about that. Whatever Chauvin did to floyd, he could just as easily do to you or your son or daughter. He was a **** employee - and he swore an oath that he broke. Not all - or even most - people who seek to keep cops accountable are siding with criminals.
If my son tried to pass a fake $20 and then fight the cops while overdosing on fentanyl, I certainly wouldn't blame the cops when he expired in a puddle of his own piss.

It would be his own stupid fault.

The thing is, I raised my kids better than that.



 
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RedheadedStranger » 25 Nov 2023, 3:15 pm » wrote: I believe any of the other officers present would have done the same thing Chauvin did because that's is exactly what they are trained to do.

In fact, two other officers were actually restraining Floyd the entire time as well on the other side of the cruiser, only out of view of the street photographer shooting the video.

The only reason they went after Chauvin so hard was because of where he ended up outside of the cruiser when Floyd wiggled his way out of the backseat while they were trying to arrest him.

Chauvin went down because the State needed a scapegoat and his was the face of the moment because of his dumb luck. Chauvin shouldn't have been scrutinized any more or less than the other three officers present, because any one of them would have done the same as he did given the circumstances.
Covid fears were waning. Trump could not be allowed a second term. Threat of rona wouldn't ensure a Biden victory so more was needed. Same gun was held to the heads of the Chauvin jurors. Vote guilty or the city burns and you will be targeted with violence the rest of your lives. Jurors knew they wouldn't remain anonymous, knew a not guilty verdict would cost lives. Voters knew if Trump was elected cities would continue to burn. Regretfully many chose the promise of peace at gunpoint. 
 
 
 
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murdock » 25 Nov 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: So what? It was a matter of time before someone else killed that useless ***.

hardly a defense in a murder trial.
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jerrab » 25 Nov 2023, 3:27 pm » wrote: hardly a defense in a murder trial.

He was railroaded by.*** Loving leftists like you.
He's dead Jim!
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Mrkelly » 25 Nov 2023, 3:14 pm » wrote: I agree with me and them also 

The optics of a smug **** cop not bothering more people is my problem 

the who,why and what are a different subject 

neither  of those *** should be accepted in a decent society
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Cannonpointer » 25 Nov 2023, 1:40 pm » wrote: Yes, yes, queer. Until you're in jail. Then you will sing a different tune. 

The USA has 5% of the world's population and 25% of it's incarcerated people. Are we just congenitally criminal as a people, or is there something else afoot, pole vault?

UNlike you, I'm not going to jail. 
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and none of that has one damn thing to do with my post
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Squatchman » 24 Nov 2023, 10:51 pm » wrote:    
   Got shanked by another inmate.
  Life saving procedures had to be taken.
 Horrible,absolutely horrible.

He should sue Biden and Harris 
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