the US and NATO been doing it since the wall went up including proxy wars...nothing new...Majik » 03 Dec 2023, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑ That's a stupid question considering the reality of the situation .....
Biden and NATO have attacked Russia .
Both economically and militarily .
via Sanctions , financial support, weaponry, training, logistical support , intelligence support , and Propaganda in their war against Russia by proxy....This is fact not fiction.
And the other damning evidence of their attack on Russia by Ulrainian proxy is the fact that they have not pressured Zelensky into peace negotiations and are openly forecasting a prolonged conflict .....a prolonged conflict they are intending to bankroll well into the future ....
and The fact is ...
Without this financial and military support to the Ukraine ....Zelensky and The Ukraine would have had to have chosen peace long ago.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Wrong. The losing is what is new.ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑ the US and NATO been doing it since the wall went up including proxy wars...nothing new...
I consider that a "Yes"... NATO is attacking Russia ....by your own admission ....ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑ the US and NATO been doing it since the wall went up including proxy wars...nothing new...
....and losing.Majik » 03 Dec 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑ I consider that a "Yes"... NATO is attacking Russia ....by your own admission ....
I can guarantee that I have seen more of the real world than you have ....and will continue to see even more of it .....nefarious101 » 03 Dec 2023, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑ No...I stand by what a ****' moron you are....ever good outside?...or is this all you live for.
This is a classic internet forum poster......no outside life and always fighting to the death non-existent battles with shadows that appear online
Yep, they are losing while simultaneously destroying the west in the process.Sumela » 03 Dec 2023, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑ ....and losing.
Thats the "new" part. The hegemon is crumbling.
so then...if you're so worldly and I'm just a second rate internet troll....why are you flipping out so bad?...that makes absolutely no sense at all.Majik » 03 Dec 2023, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑ I can guarantee that I have seen more of the real world than you have ....and will continue to see even more of it .....
What you think you know and what you actually know are miles apart simply because you think you know the world from viewing it from afar .....
While I have traveled it extensively in a military , professional and leisurely fashion over the years.
I can say that I have been to the Ukraine many times both pre and post 2014.
same with Russia.
can you ?
what you are in reality is a second rate internet troll that throws chum in the water and I like chum but not as much as I like throwing a trolls words back into their face especially when they are lying ...
And you did lie.....
just like you you are throwing Russian death numbers around when they are not deaths they are deaths and casualties combined and even those numbers are highly suspect considering not one NATO country including ours has matching numbers of the death tolls by either side .....

Yup. Some is planned.Majik » 03 Dec 2023, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Yep, they are losing while simultaneously destroying the west in the process.
****...it's called the Cold War...and depending upon the time and situation, both sides have been guilty...right now, Russia is the instigator here...Majik » 03 Dec 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑ I consider that a "Yes"... NATO is attacking Russia ....by your own admission ....
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑ ****...it's called the Cold War...and depending upon the time and situation, both sides have been guilty...right now, Russia is the instigator here...
And the winner!ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑ ****...it's called the Cold War...and depending upon the time and situation, both sides have been guilty...right now, Russia is the instigator here...
That's **** the US and NATO have done nothing since the Korean War...and even WWI and II had marginal results...Sumela » 03 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Wrong. The losing is what is new.
Declining empire. Its Glorious!
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom What did NATO do in WW1?ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑ That's **** the US and NATO have done nothing since the Korean War...and even WWI and II had marginal results...
NATO may have not been formal at the time, but alliances were getting there...
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom BTW, Russia's track record is no better...Afghanistan was a failure and the Soviet Union was an epic failure...
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom NATO wasnt around during WW1ROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑ BTW, Russia's track record is no better...Afghanistan was a failure and the Soviet Union was an epic failure...
nothing GLORIOUS about either...
Early TrannyismROG62 » 03 Dec 2023, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑ NATO may have not been formal at the time, but alliances were getting there...