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Sumela » 07 Dec 2023, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Dec 2023, 9:54 pm

Putin and Assad in an orthodox church in Syria.  For Christmas.

For us as Christians, [Christmas] is one of the most holy of the holidays, the birth of our savior Jesus Christ. And for people to take Christ out of Christmas. They're happy to say merry Xmas. Let's just take Jesus out. And really, I think, a war against the name of Jesus Christ.

Franklin Graham

Joh » 08 Dec 2023, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:53 pm

For us as Christians, [Christmas] is one of the most holy of the holidays, the birth of our savior Jesus Christ. And for people to take Christ out of Christmas. They're happy to say merry Xmas. Let's just take Jesus out. And really, I think, a war against the name of Jesus Christ.

Franklin Graham

You quote others, but what would you replace the idea of God and Jesus with for those needing hope, faith, charity reality is larger than actual genetic timing of population evolving forward now?

Leave no exceptions due to what people believe and account for each conception delivered since inception?

Joh » 08 Dec 2023, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:49 pm

Putin and Assad in an orthodox church in Syria.  For Christmas.

Yes sir, two great leaders.  Top Gs
 

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

Nostradamus'omh » 08 Dec 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:58 pm

You quote others, but what would you replace the idea of God and Jesus with for those needing hope, faith, charity reality is larger than actual genetic timing of population evolving forward now?

Leave no exceptions due to what people believe and account for each conception delivered since inception?

You tell me where you would find that hope.

Lest one thinks it's on currency only.

They keep failing.

An atheist activist has lost yet another fight to have "In God We Trust" removed from U.S. currency after the Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal alleging that the motto violates the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/ ... nstitution.
 

Joh » 08 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm

You tell me where you would find that hope.

No need for it understanding the actual way living happens living eternally separates each ancestor each generation gap as genetically timed apart now in your own skin. Each person is their own leader and follower of natural time displaced one of a kind. There is always room for civility among everyone equally alive, but add civic minded pride intellect is larger than population occupying time now is mythology gone insane.

Nostradamus'omh » 08 Dec 2023, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 4:03 pm

No need for it understanding the actual way living happens living eternally separates as genetically timed apart now in your own skin. Each person is their own leader and follower of natural time displaced one of a kind. There is always room for civility among everyone equally alive, but add civic minded pride intellect is larger than population occupying time now is mythology gone insane.

Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or turn away from them. Proverbs 4:5

• Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Brookville courthouse.

But eventually reinstated.

Harrison County supervisors vote to keep Nativity scene inside courthouse

link for Harrison

https://www.gulflive.com/mississippi-pr ... rs_vo.html
 
 

Joh » 08 Dec 2023, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 4:04 pm

Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or turn away from them. Proverbs 4:5

How does one get wisdom, being told how to perform socially by a mob mentality or learn to get along socially as equally alive sharing the same situation cradle to grave of limited to adapting in space only timed apart now.

There is no tomorrow in physical time adapting to the moment here one just survive another rotation of the planet. this idea doesn't cancel "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, survive the best one can the rest of the time staying alive here.

Reality over complicates living. Intellect projects things that aren't possible unless ignoring the natural order living is self contained to genetics eternally separating each reproduction left alive now.

Nostradamus'omh » 08 Dec 2023, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 4:11 pm

How does one get wisdom, being told how to perform socially by a mob mentality or learn to get along socially as equally alive sharing the same situation cradle to grave of limited to adapting in space only timed apart now.

There is no tomorrow in physical time adapting to the moment here one just survive another rotation of the planet. this idea doesn't cancel "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, survive the best one can the rest of the time staying alive here.

Reality over complicates living. Intellect projects things that aren't possible unless ignoring the natural order living is self contained to genetics eternally separating each reproduction left alive now.

4 Ways to Get Wisdom Wisdom is a capacity of the mind that allows us to understand life from God’s perspective. Throughout the book of Proverbs, Solomon encourages us to “get wisdom” (Proverbs 4:5). He says those who get wisdom love life (see 19:8); that it’s better to get wisdom than gold (see 16:16); and that those who get wisdom find life and receive favor from the Lord (see 8:32 – 35).

 Yet in Ecclesiastes 7:23–24 Solomon also makes clear that getting wisdom is a challenging process: “‘I am determined to be wise’ — but this was beyond me. Whatever exists is far off and most profound — who can discover it?”

 Fortunately, Scripture provides us instruction in this area. Here are four Biblical instructions for how to get wisdom:1. Fear GodSolomon says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (see Proverbs 9:10). But how should we fear God? Philipp Melanchthon, a collaborator of Martin Luther, discussed what it means to fear God by contrasting filial fear with servile fear. Filial fear is the type of respect and love a child has for a parent, a fear of offending the one they most adore and trust. In contrast, servile fear is the kind of fear that a prisoner has for his jailer or executioner.2. Desire WisdomThe second step to getting wisdom is to desire it with all our heart. As Solomon says, we must “look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure” (Proverbs 2:4).3. Pray for WisdomAs James tell us, “If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you” (James 1:5).4. Study God’s WordThe fourth step in getting wisdom is studying and meditating on God’s Word (see Psalm 19:7). We shouldn’t rely merely on our own understanding, though, but lean on the wisdom and insight produced by Christians throughout the church’s history.PRACTICAL TAKEAWAY:
To get wisdom we must fear God, study his Word and prayerfully desire to understand life from God’s perspective.


https://www.thenivbible.com/blog/4-ways-get-wisdom/

  
 
 

Joh » 05 Dec 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2023, 9:14 am

"Today, the law is clear. The First Amendment does not permit any city, state, or the federal government to eliminate religious viewpoints regarding a federally and state recognized holiday."

"U.S. Supreme Court Frees Christmas From the “Lemon Test”

"For 51 years, the “Lemon Test” had been used by courts to distort the Free Exercise Clause and the Free Speech Clause to remove religious symbols and displays from the public square. However, all that changed in 2022 when the U.S. Supreme Court eliminated the “Lemon Test” over a series of rulings favoring a new “test” of “historical practices and understandings” to determine the extent of religious expression in the public square."
https://lc.org/newsroom/details/120123- ... mon-test-1

Great link - 12 greenies for the 12 days of Christmas.

Joh » 08 Dec 2023, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:49 pm

Putin and Assad in an orthodox church in Syria.  For Christmas.

These men are both fighting Satanists.