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Israel cannot defeat Hamas - So what is next?
Israel cannot defeat Hamas - So what is next?
By Sumela
5 Dec 2023 12:44 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
9 Dec 2023 3:16 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ I understand their grievances but their real purpose is to wipe Israel off the map. Do you understand this?
https://theintercept.com/2021/05/14/isr ... onprofits/
Alex Kane
May 14 2021, 6:30 a.m.ON MAY 6, right-wing Israeli officials descended on Sheikh Jarrah, a neighborhood in occupied East Jerusalem, to show their support for the settler movement’s push to displace Palestinian residents and take their homes.One of the officials was Aryeh King, a deputy mayor of Jerusalem and settler who lives in the Palestinian neighborhood of Ras al-Amud. In an exchange caught on camera, King mocked Palestinian activist Mohammed Abu Hummus for being shot by Israeli forces in his backside, and then, pointing at his head, said, “It’s a pity it didn’t go in here.” It was a wish for the death of a Palestinian.The remarks turned a spotlight on King’s involvement in the saga of Sheikh Jarrah, the Palestinian neighborhood targeted by Israeli settlers that is at the heart of the current crisis in Israel-Palestine. The impending removal of Palestinian families from Sheikh Jarrah fueled tensions in Jerusalem, which spiraled out of the holy city into Gaza and the rest of Israel-Palestine. Israeli airstrikes are now blanketing Gaza, with Palestinian groups firing rockets back; both Jewish and Palestinian mobs are roaming cities in Israel, beating up whoever they can find.
9 Dec 2023 3:18 pm
Where would you suggest they should have hidden?Kisses » 05 Dec 2023, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Too bad Hamas didn't think about them before lobbing a bunch of missiles into Israel and then hiding like cockroaches amongst innocent Palestinians.
Or should they have just kept ignoring the genocide of their people?
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:18 pm
I wonder, why. considering how nice israel is to gazaTempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ I understand their grievances but their real purpose is to wipe Israel off the map. Do you understand this?
9 Dec 2023 3:20 pm
The last attack on israel was probably the grand finale. No one else will ever commit tourism against them again.Skans » 06 Dec 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑ Look, Hamas is not growing. People who "claim" to support Hamas might be growing, but none of those people are going to take up arms and fight Israel. They are irrelevant hot air.
That about size up your thesis?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:22 pm
That's my take. They're cowards.Skans » 06 Dec 2023, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑ Here's the deal. Prior to Israel going into Gaza, Hamas was launching thousands of missile strikes into Israel.
Now, there are no more missiles even being launched into Israel.
Bottom line - IDF has all but neutralized Hamas. Now, it's just pissing on the poor few who remain for **** and giggles. I mean, its either that.......or Hamas is too cowardly to come out and fight the Jews.
It's done - we can call it a w for the hook-noses and go back to binge-watching sopranos reruns.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:25 pm
No.RedheadedStranger » 06 Dec 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Doe Hamas have the right to indiscriminately kill Israeli women and children as well?
For Allah?
Do two wrongs make a right?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:29 pm
I think he was challenging equating the 10/07 Day of Carnage by tourists with the destruction of a million people's residences and the state killing of thousands of children.RedheadedStranger » 06 Dec 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑ So, your answer is yes.
That was not a question.
That's what he meant when he referred to "scope" and "scale."
Perhaps you can enunciate your position on that - AFTER brushing those teef, please and thank you.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:34 pm
It's not a war.RedheadedStranger » 06 Dec 2023, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑ When has "proportionate response" ever been a thing in war?
The Gaza Strip is not a state. It has no embassies. It's not recognized as a state by the UN. It is recognized by the UN and by the majority of governments as israeli occupied territory.
Words have meanings, and men use them properly - not dishonestly.
Boy.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:35 pm
Gaza is not a state. It cannot "start a war," you fruit.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:38 pm
Sumela » 05 Dec 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑ 5 Dec, 2023 18:31
HomeWorld News
Israel can't defeat Hamas in battle, so what's next?
All the conflict in Gaza is achieving is civilian misery, and the US can stop it at any time.
All Pissrael has is carpet bombing of kids and women. Hamas has barely been touched.
https://www.rt.com/news/588481-idf-israel-war-gaza/
Junior, Israel has the means to win this in one day. Keep that in mind as you spew BS.
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9 Dec 2023 3:39 pm
It's managing to end it's existence, do you suspect suicide?Cannonpointer » 09 Dec 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Gaza is not a state. It cannot "start a war," you fruit.
9 Dec 2023 3:43 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ I understand their grievances but their real purpose is to wipe Israel off the map. Do you understand this?
Who controlled Palestine before 1967?
Jordan and Egypt controlled the rest of the territory assigned by resolution 181 to the Arab State. In the 1967 war, Israel occupied these territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) including East Jerusalem, which was subsequently annexed by Israel.
9 Dec 2023 3:46 pm
But not the thousands of civilian children the IDF's destruction has resulted in. They were in their innocent beds.Kisses » 07 Dec 2023, 4:22 am » wrote: ↑ Can you not comprehend Hamas attacked Israel? Read that again. Hamas attacked Israel.
Where would you suggest they hide?Kisses » 07 Dec 2023, 4:22 am » wrote: ↑ Israel is defending itself, taking out Hamas strongholds, weapon depots, etc. Have Palestinians been killed? Absolutely. It's hard not to when Hamas purposely hides themselves amongst the innocent.
Ding ding ding - Hamas represents the IDF. Someone is waking up.Kisses » 07 Dec 2023, 4:22 am » wrote: ↑ Hamas did not care about the Palestinian people. They knew Israel would defend itself and innocent Palestinians would suffer. But they attacked anyways!.
Israel is committing ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people. This has been going on for decades. Every time the U.N. tries to censure israel for it, the US uses its permanent seat on the security council to block it.
In YOUR opinion, how should Hamas - a palestinian leadership group self-admittedly created and supported by the israeli security apparatus, up to and including netanyahu - have proceeded? How SHOULD they redress their grievances against an apartheid government that is actively ethnically cleansing the land of palestinians?
AND FOR THE BONUS - WHY DID HAMAS SET UP GAZA FOR A MURDER?????
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:49 pm
I understand it’s the zionists that determined the creation of the state. Do we un-zionize it as a state and bring it back to 1947?jerrab » 09 Dec 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who controlled Palestine before 1967?
Jordan and Egypt controlled the rest of the territory assigned by resolution 181 to the Arab State. In the 1967 war, Israel occupied these territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) including East Jerusalem, which was subsequently annexed by Israel.
9 Dec 2023 3:53 pm
Haaretz agrees, dear.Kisses » 09 Dec 2023, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑ let me make sure I'm understanding you correctly…
You blame Israel for the creation of Hamas AND believe it did so so they could attack Israel and then Israel could get all of Palestine?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... ff1be90000
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... dfd8f30000
So does the Times of Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:56 pm
Israel also cleared a path for the 10/07 atrocities, deliberately weakening security during a time when heightened security was clearly called for.jerrab » 09 Dec 2023, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑ israel took advantage of hamas' tendency to strike when pissed off, especially over evictions. israel knew that hamas would strike over forced evictions and this would give isael the excuse to fight back.
\israel owes the victims of 10/7 for angering hamas and causing the attack.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:57 pm
Israel cleared a path for hamas to do what it did.Tempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑ That may be true but you seem to forget that Hamas’ charter specifically calls to wipe Israel off the map. Hamas’ purpose is to live angry and always plan for and execute attacks. It’s a forever thing.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:58 pm
Iran backs hezbolla. Hamas is sunni.Tempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Iran will make sure Hamas never ends…and s long as a Zionist power runs Israel they won’t either.
It’s very difficult to kill an ideology.
netantahu’s govt owes the victims of 10/7.
It gets most of its backing from israel.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Dec 2023 3:59 pm
I agree with them and I have started to believe Likud/Netanyahu have used it as a strategy to force the same outcome.Cannonpointer » 09 Dec 2023, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Haaretz agrees, dear.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... ff1be90000
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... dfd8f30000
So does the Times of Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/
And what has been going on since Oct 7 are blow-ups to both sides.
9 Dec 2023 3:59 pm
If you are competent to read a map, you can EASILY see who is wiping whom off of it.Tempest62 » 09 Dec 2023, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑ I understand their grievances but their real purpose is to wipe Israel off the map. Do you understand this?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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