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impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 12:56 pm

I have wondered the same and the usual answer that I get when I ask is this: They want to get f'ed up nice and slow. In relative terms, they want to go 0 to 60 in 10 minutes and not 1 minute. My late father was one of these types. In his darker times just before us kids came to the world.. he was a 12 pack for breakfast and 12 pack for dessert type.

I couldn't drink a 12 pack of water.  Can't even imagine something carbonated with alcohol in it. 

Man, I am a lucky guy not to have ever had to live with an alcoholic. I really mean that.
 

Skans » 08 Dec 2023, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:04 pm

I couldn't drink a 12 pack of water.  Can't even imagine something carbonated with alcohol in it. 

Man, I am a lucky guy not to have ever had to live with an alcoholic. I really mean that.

His alcoholic days were over by the time I was 2 years old. I lived with one in my 20's. Never met someone who could out-drink this guy. Not exactly a badge of honor, I know. He is 42 now and even after having quit drinking in the last year.. he looks all shriveled up and old. His friday ritual was 3 tall cans of steel reserve (yes, feel free to gag) followed by 8 to 10 shots of cheap vodka, and then some jagermeister/coke drinks to top off the night. Those were his garden variety nights. On his heavy drinking days, he would polish off a fifth of gin along with a 12 pack or two.. 

impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 12:56 pm

I have wondered the same and the usual answer that I get when I ask is this: They want to get f'ed up nice and slow. In relative terms, they want to go 0 to 60 in 10 minutes and not 1 minute. My late father was one of these types. In his darker times just before us kids came to the world.. he was a 12 pack for breakfast and 12 pack for dessert type.

I've known a few johnny 6 packs whose daily after-work sixer was a hard won compromise with a disappointed missus. 

impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:25 pm

His alcoholic days were over by the time I was 2 years old. I lived with one in my 20's. Never met someone who could out-drink this guy. Not exactly a badge of honor, I know. He is 42 now and even after having quit drinking in the last year.. he looks all shriveled up and old. His friday ritual was 3 tall cans of steel reserve (yes, feel free to gag) followed by 8 to 10 shots of cheap vodka, and then some jagermeister/coke drinks to top off the night. Those were his garden variety nights. On his heavy drinking days, he would polish off a fifth of gin along with a 12 pack or two..

I've known a few functional alcoholics. One I knew would drink a bottle of whisky every night - probably more, but that's what he'd admit to anyway.  I asked him how he could possibly do that without getting sick, as more than a little bit of alcohol makes me sick.  He explained that he can drink until he passes out and never get a hang over and never feel sick. According to him, alcohol in any quantity just doesn't make him sick - and never has.  He tried to explain that alcohol gets him "high", not drunk.  Hard for me to understand, but that was his claim.

I have come to believe that alcohol is metabolized differently by different people. With me, I have a fairly low tolerance to alcohol, even though I drank pretty regularly in my teens and early 20's.  I don't think I could possibly become an alcoholic, even if I tried. In fact, I could go without ever having a sip of alcohol ever again and not miss it.
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 12:11 pm

That vote is a little overdue fruitcake. When do you expet it? They're doubling down, son.

And according to you, they are doubling down on a policy that is going to get them fired. 
Ah, jeez louise. We're back to your fantasy mandates. Care to link to one of those, fruity? 

They've been at it for YEARS, stupid. They aren't backing down - they're DOUBLING down.

Well if they're "doubling down" as you claim, they're doing it with many fewer "woke" executives, nimrod!
Or aren't you aware of that?:

2 Executives Are on Leave After Bud Light Promotion With Transgender Influencer
Anheuser-Busch announced the moves after a conservative backlash over its association with the actress and social media personality Dylan Mulvaney.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/busi ... vaney.html

And how long do you think it will take Target to change direction when they lost $10 billion in 10 days after their Pride Month displays infuriated stockholders?
Their stock dropped from $263 per share in 2021 down to $135 today, a loss of almost half their value in just two years.  They quickly scrambled to move those offensive Pride displays away from the front of the store when they realized what was happening, and the execs are terrified over that public reaction.  So if they're SO unconcerned with those billions in losses they've absorbed, WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER if they didn't care about losing money as you claim?

But according to you, the executives don't care, huh?  So tell me, genius.  How much longer do you expect Target stockholders to tolerate such losses and reverse direction, after they're already nearly broke and in the process of being sued by shareholders for their "woke" agenda?:

Target sued by shareholder for ‘misleading’ investors on risks of woke ESG, diversity mandates
FORT MYERS, Florida (LifeSiteNews) — Retail company Target misled investors about the harmful effects of its implementation of “Environmental, Social and Governance” (ESG) standards and “diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), according to a federal lawsuit.Aug 14, 2023 
A lawsuit alleges that Target embraced the radical transgender agenda with its children-and-family-themed 'Pride' marketing and sales campaign that caused more than a $12 billion collapse in share value.

Time for you to wake up and recognize that profits and losses are the first, second, and third concerns of a business, and the responsibility to maintain profits is all that keeps the CEO and other execs secure in their jobs!

And here's that link you demanded from the Biden policy mandates:

Biden Admin’s Woke, Wasteful Infrastructure Add-Ons Inflate Costs
The Daily Signal by David Ditch  / December 05, 2023
In theory, these rules are supposed to be based on what Congress passed into law. However, the Biden administration has repeatedly inserted its own highly ideological objectives into these notices, bypassing Congress and steering policy far to the left.

Regrettably, the Biden administration is going out of its way to make government projects and programs as inefficient as possible by tacking on a laundry list of woke mandates
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/12/05/ ... ate-costs/

Go read the link, moron, and you'll see the government mandates Biden has imposed, just like his idiot mentor Obama did with Obamacare.

Seems your never happy until I rub your nose in it, as I've done repeatedly with your lies and ****, huh?

 
 

Skans » 08 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

I've known a few functional alcoholics. One I knew would drink a bottle of whisky every night - probably more, but that's what he'd admit to anyway.  I asked him how he could possibly do that without getting sick, as more than a little bit of alcohol makes me sick.  He explained that he can drink until he passes out and never get a hang over and never feel sick. According to him, alcohol in any quantity just doesn't make him sick - and never has.  He tried to explain that alcohol gets him "high", not drunk.  Hard for me to understand, but that was his claim.

I have come to believe that alcohol is metabolized differently by different people. With me, I have a fairly low tolerance to alcohol, even though I drank pretty regularly in my teens and early 20's.  I don't think I could possibly become an alcoholic, even if I tried. In fact, I could go without ever having a sip of alcohol ever again and not miss it.

I will agree that some metabolize it differently. When I do drink.. I drink quite slowly. A 22 oz. bottle of good stuff will take me 60 to 75 minutes to consume. The first telltale sign that I have went over is that I get heartburn. My friend/roommate would tell me about how it did not leave him fulling full Six 12 oz. beers in one hour would leave me very bloated. 

impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:26 pm

I will agree that some metabolize it differently. When I do drink.. I drink quite slowly. A 22 oz. bottle of good stuff will take me 60 to 75 minutes to consume. The first telltale sign that I have went over is that I get heartburn. My friend/roommate would tell me about how it did not leave him fulling full Six 12 oz. beers in one hour would leave me very bloated.

The key to not getting bloated from beer is to pour it in a glass where a pretty good head forms, and wait for it to die down before drinking. This is especially true with domestic lagers and even IPAs that have a ton of carbonation.



https://youtube.com/shorts/rTtqjPgZZ7s? ... 1Q_WwxEh4g

RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:40 pm

The key to not getting bloated from beer is to pour it in a glass where a pretty good head forms, and wait for it to die down before drinking. This is especially true with domestic lagers and even IPAs that have a ton of carbonation.

https://youtube.com/shorts/rTtqjPgZZ7s? ... 1Q_WwxEh4g

good to know. In other news, recently noticed a brewery from Nashville, Jackalope brewing, on the shelves at Total Wine in Reno. Was in a bit of a rush but next time going to try it out. 

impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:52 pm

good to know. In other news, recently noticed a brewery from Nashville, Jackalope brewing, on the shelves at Total Wine in Reno. Was in a bit of a rush but next time going to try it out.

Good to hear a local is reaching that far west. It seems like I had one of the pale ales a while back but I haven't really explored the brand too much myself. I'm still hooked on the Little Harpeth Brewing Co when I go to grab a local.

Their first brew house was right across the street from where I used to work and the taproom opened every afternoon at 2. Now they have moved into a much bigger facility across town.

https://www.littleharpeth.com/our-beers

The Chicken Scratch is my favorite from them, but everything they brew is good.
 

Cannonpointer » 07 Dec 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Dec 2023, 2:28 pm

If you insist they're stupid, that's on you.

I CAN tell you they do not care and I AM telling you they do not care.

Inbev might have been shocked by the outrage - but that was a measuring stick they now have. Since they are ALL **** DOING IT to a very large degree - big pharma, big insurance, ANYTHING big is doing it, - they have us by the short hairs and they are GOING to remake reality. He;;, they've already DONE it. Fox News pretends bruce jenner is a **** broad - and their audience still tunes in.

Cosmetic actions to make us think our voice was heard - pure theater and pure ****. Their course is set. And you're gonna take it because there's nothing you can do about it.

Their stock holders are about as powerful as you are. The ones that matter are either in on it or will get a bailout. Or both.

All of wall street is shoving the agenda up your ***. That's reality - whether you're aware of it or blind to it.

Yet Jenner is a title IX advocate in its intended fashion...
 

Cannonpointer » 07 Dec 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Dec 2023, 2:28 pm

If you insist they're stupid, that's on you.

I CAN tell you they do not care and I AM telling you they do not care.

Inbev might have been shocked by the outrage - but that was a measuring stick they now have. Since they are ALL **** DOING IT to a very large degree - big pharma, big insurance, ANYTHING big is doing it, - they have us by the short hairs and they are GOING to remake reality. He;;, they've already DONE it. Fox News pretends bruce jenner is a **** broad - and their audience still tunes in.

Cosmetic actions to make us think our voice was heard - pure theater and pure ****. Their course is set. And you're gonna take it because there's nothing you can do about it.

Their stock holders are about as powerful as you are. The ones that matter are either in on it or will get a bailout. Or both.

All of wall street is shoving the agenda up your ***. That's reality - whether you're aware of it or blind to it.

While shareholders can wield a big stick, it's the board members that rule...and they aren't in it for fallacies, they're about success and making $$$...
 

Skans » 08 Dec 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 11:11 am

I never could figure out how a man drinks an entire 6-pack (or more) of beer in an hour.  If all you want is an alcohol buz, then drink bourbon.  I drink beer when I'm hot and thirsty, out on the boat, or sometimes with dinner.

Yep, bourbon or a couple of full bodied brewskis will do the trick...

impartialobserver » 08 Dec 2023, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:25 pm

His alcoholic days were over by the time I was 2 years old. I lived with one in my 20's. Never met someone who could out-drink this guy. Not exactly a badge of honor, I know. He is 42 now and even after having quit drinking in the last year.. he looks all shriveled up and old. His friday ritual was 3 tall cans of steel reserve (yes, feel free to gag) followed by 8 to 10 shots of cheap vodka, and then some jagermeister/coke drinks to top off the night. Those were his garden variety nights. On his heavy drinking days, he would polish off a fifth of gin along with a 12 pack or two..

good gawd...
 

Skans » 08 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:47 pm

I've known a few functional alcoholics. One I knew would drink a bottle of whisky every night - probably more, but that's what he'd admit to anyway.  I asked him how he could possibly do that without getting sick, as more than a little bit of alcohol makes me sick.  He explained that he can drink until he passes out and never get a hang over and never feel sick. According to him, alcohol in any quantity just doesn't make him sick - and never has.  He tried to explain that alcohol gets him "high", not drunk.  Hard for me to understand, but that was his claim.

I have come to believe that alcohol is metabolized differently by different people. With me, I have a fairly low tolerance to alcohol, even though I drank pretty regularly in my teens and early 20's.  I don't think I could possibly become an alcoholic, even if I tried. In fact, I could go without ever having a sip of alcohol ever again and not miss it.

I know I couldn't be one...I'm a puker...
 

ROG62 » 08 Dec 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:23 pm

Yep...

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This sounds like some fake news to me...$5 Mil is a drop in the bucket to people like him thier door knobs cost that much.
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Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

Well if they're "doubling down" as you claim,

There is no if and it isn't a claim. I showed you woke **** from 2020. Even a goose brain like you HAS to remember the gillette kerfuffle, when they presumed to lecture their BUYERS about how to treat their nonbuyers. AND the backlash. And the hits keep rolling. We call THAT "doubling down," Fruitapotamus Rex.

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

they're doing it with many fewer "woke" executives, nimrod!
Or aren't you aware of that?

What what what????

They threw some chumps to the lions? OMG - we can all go back to watching The Rifleman and Wanted: Dead or Alive. Murka is saved.

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

And how long do you think it will take Target to change direction when they lost $10 billion in 10 days after their Pride Month displays infuriated stockholders?

Quite a **** while - thanks for asking.

They JUST GOT THROUGH rolling out more queer ****, you over-modulating dufus.

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

Their stock dropped from $263 per share in 2021 down to $135 today, a loss of almost half their value in just two years.  They quickly scrambled to move those offensive Pride displays away from the front of the store when they realized what was happening, and the execs are terrified over that public reaction.  So if they're SO unconcerned with those billions in losses they've absorbed, WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER if they didn't care about losing money as you claim?

If they're so terrified, you loud mouthed nitwit, why the **** is their Christmas **** all pride flaggy?

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

But according to you, the executives don't care, huh?  So tell me, genius.  How much longer do you expect Target stockholders to tolerate such losses and reverse direction, after they're already nearly broke and in the process of being sued by shareholders for their "woke" agenda?

Wait wait wait - being sued? Why does the Invisible Hand need the nanny state, Punkin? I thought their very next shareholder meeting was gonna fix things RIGHT up? The wokesters would be gone? You keep changing your tune every time you post.

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

Time for you to wake up and recognize that profits and losses are the first, second, and third concerns of a business, and the responsibility to maintain profits is all that keeps the CEO and other execs secure in their jobs!

Lol fruitcake - I don't need to recognize that. The CEOs do, dummy - and they aren't doing so. The Invisible Hand of the Market is **** in your gravy bowl, boy. That's what the argument is about - not whether I recognize a **** thing.

Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 2:05 pm

And here's that link you demanded from the Biden policy mandates:

Oh, goody - and you're going to explain how it forces companies to use trannies in their ads, yeah?

Oh - I guess not. You're just a loud blufftard. Now go suck the teat of the incompetent, irrelevant Invisible Hand of the Market, poop face.
 

ROG62 » 08 Dec 2023, 3:10 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:10 pm

Yet Jenner is a title IX advocate in its intended fashion...

Yes, he is. Good on him.
 

ROG62 » 08 Dec 2023, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 3:14 pm

While shareholders can wield a big stick, it's the board members that rule...and they aren't in it for fallacies, they're about success and making $$$...

This ^ prattle is pure catechism, in the face of MOUNTAINS of contrary evidence and ZERO corroborating evidence. 

Are you stupid, boy? Are you gonna pray to the Invisible Hand of the Market to right all wrongs, next?
 
 

              There's always been regional Beers.... Lots of Beers we grew up with that few from out of the State ever heard of... 
   I do remember when we started seeing what were termed Micro-Brewery Craft Beers... Most seemed to be coming from the West Coast ---  I recall Anchor Brewery was a pioneer...

               But my own opinion was the Beer that really blew the doors open for a smaller producer to share Tap space with the big guys was Sam Adams Boston Lager.... I was still in the Bar business at the time, and remember some hesitation at offering what was promoted as a Premium  American Beer, at the price of the imports we sold... I think a lot of folks in the Biz were surprised how well the Brand was embraced and took off.. 

Wow.

Neocons are obsessed

with

beer. How shallow