Hamas reportedly surrendering in droves

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By *rippy38
7 Dec 2023 11:23 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:42 pm » wrote: Your only evidence is a tweet.

My evidence was a tweet.

What make you right and me wrong?

Hmmm?
your tweet was shown to be a lie

repeatedly

by people that are there

thats the difference
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:23 pm » wrote: No, what I have seen is both sides making claims with very little evidence to back up either side's claim to begin with.

Just like with the "journalist" claim. It's just a claim with no back up, yet you hold it as the gospel... and don't say you're not, because you are doing just that. So who is "falling for the propaganda" here?

Common sense tells me that the IDF has pushed Hamas into Southern Gaza and is currently beating the piss out of the remnants of the tattered radicals left in the rubble.

Hamas certainly isn't pushing into Israeli occupied territory, are they?
His second reference NAMED the journalist AND his publication. You could falsify the claim using linked-in, for **** sake. 

Try to spot the difference between substantiated and unsubstantiated claims, son. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: I can link you to me schooling someone on my side of the issue on precisely why his link was untrustworthy.

I am not like you - don't aggrandize yourself, worm.

I mean, fruit-worm.
Do you really think Hamas is kicking the IDF's *** and gaining strength, or do you just say that because you loathe the Jews?
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: His second reference NAMED the journalist AND his publication. You could falsify the claim using linked-in, for **** sake. 

Try to spot the difference between substantiated and unsubstantiated claims, son.
And you know the guy in the blue circle is the same journalist how exactly?
 
He's magically appeared in two different groups now.
 
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I'm pretty sure you pretended that in order to be considered embedded, Nellis Airforce Base would have to be hiding bombs under schools and in emergency rooms - at one and the same time re-running your *** propaganda and moving the goal post.
RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: Look at the map. Nellis AFB isn't in the heart of Las Vegas, it's on the outskirts... and I doubt very seriously that the Air Force is stashing AIM120s under the casinos on the strip either.
Even while declaring innocence, you continue to run your homo-erotic propaganda and move the goal posts.
RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: You were making and apples to oranges argument in trying to say that the US military was differ than Hamas is "hiding" behind civilians, and it was simple false.
Earlier you involved pumpkins - you can't even keep your fruits straight, you fruit.

Hitting Nellis would devastate Las vegas. It is bordered by neighborhoods, liar panty.
 
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As someone who is not religious in the least and never has been. I do not particularly care who wins this battle (short term or long term).
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 6:50 pm » wrote: I'm pretty sure you pretended that in order to be considered embedded, Nellis Airforce Base would have to be hiding bombs under schools and in emergency rooms - at one and the same time re-running your *** propaganda and moving the goal post.

Even while declaring innocence, you continue to run your homo-erotic propaganda and move the goal posts.

Earlier you involved pumpkins - you can't even keep your fruits straight, you fruit.

Hitting Nellis would devastate Las vegas. It is bordered by neighborhoods, liar panty.
Hitting Nellis with a nuke would devastate Vegas for sure... Specifically targeting Nellis with conventional weapons wouldn't.

The IDF isn't using nukes.

Apples and oranges.
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:43 pm » wrote: Yeah, he was probably there when Hamas was butchering woman and children on 10/7 too...
Sounds reasonable - now you can cheer his torture and murder, racist. :)
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: Do you really think Hamas is kicking the IDF's *** and gaining strength, or do you just say that because you loathe the Jews?
I have never suggested any such thing, you **** maniac. Out of whose *** did you pull the idea that I think Hamas is kicking the IDF's ***?

What I SAID - and what I MEANT and still mean - is that Hamas' victory conditions (as I understand them and am prepared to argue them with neutral, agreed facts from history) are more being met by the events since 10/7 than are ISRAEL'S victory conditions (as I understand them and am prepared to argue them with neutral, agreed facts from history).

Any time you wanna T-up THAT conversation up, I'm a go. But I warn you, you will be called on to think. And I have observed that you are not very comfortable doing that. Image Image
 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:49 pm » wrote: And you know the guy in the blue circle is the same journalist how exactly?
 
He's magically appeared in two different groups now.
Again, you are free to google the name and publication you have been provided. When you are given information in a falsifiable format, you can do one of three things: Accept it, falsify it, or prove you're a dick sucker.

Just bear in mind that the choice belongs to you. 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:52 pm » wrote: Hitting Nellis with a nuke would devastate Vegas for sure... Specifically targeting Nellis with conventional weapons wouldn't.

The IDF isn't using nukes.

Apples and oranges.
Your focus on fruits is impressive. 

The IDF is bombing apartment buildings. I think the issue of nukes is off the table in Gaza - it would **** with tel aviv, ffs. 

Hitting Nellis with missiles would kill a lot of civilians - which means the us military are cowards who embed their troops with civilians, using them as human shields.

The Russians and Chinese and Spanish and Lithuanians and Poles and British and Ugandans do the same. So do the Bolivians and Czechs and Italians and Khazakstanis.

The enitre human shield conversation was invented BY **** asses FOR **** - which explains why you run your cock intake valve about it - all due respect. Image
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 6:57 pm » wrote: I have never suggested any such thing, you **** maniac. Out of whose *** did you pull the idea that I think Hamas is kicking the IDF's ***?

What I SAID - and what I MEANT and still mean - is that Hamas' victory conditions (as I understand them and am prepared to argue them with neutral, agreed facts from history) are more being met by the events since 10/7 than are ISRAEL'S victory conditions (as I understand them and am prepared to argue them with neutral, agreed facts from history).

Any time you wanna t THAT conversation up, I'm a go. But I warn you, you will be called on to think. And I have observed that you are not very comfortable doing that. Image Image
And "growing"... as in getting stronger?
Cannonpointer » 07 Dec 2023, 9:12 pm » wrote: Now down to 34,960 (and growing). Image
 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 7:05 pm » wrote: And "growing"... as in getting stronger?
OMG - their sympathizers have grown by the millions, and israel's enemies have more ears today than ever. You gotta be **** nuts if you think differently.

You cannot cry out of one side of your face about all the unexpected flak israel is getting from the gender confused left, of all places, and then pretend with the other side that Hamas isn't moving the needle in the propaganda war.

Pick a narrative, son. Just one, though. 
 
Edit - I do not wish to be accused of ducking your central question. 

Yes - I believe that there are MORE committed jihadists now that on 10/6. I cannot say that Hamas itself has more members AT THIS MOMENT than they did on 10/6, but I will say their membership prospects are looking extremely good, given the IDF is killing people's families and leaving them paupers fueled only by hate and revenge. Israel is losing, and the more people it murders, the more losinger it is. 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: Your focus on fruits is impressive. 

The IDF is bombing apartment buildings. I think the issue of nukes is off the table in Gaza - it would **** with tel aviv, ffs. 

Hitting Nellis with missiles would kill a lot of civilians - which means the us military are cowards who embed their troops with civilians, using them as human shields.

The Russians and Chinese and Spanish and Lithuanians and Poles and British and Ugandans do the same. So do the Bolivians and Czechs and Italians and Khazakstanis.

The enitre human shield conversation was invented BY **** asses FOR **** - which explains why you run your cock intake valve about it - all due respect. Image
If the IDF was trying to take out Nellis AFB with conventional weapons (apples to apples argument) how would that "devastate" the city of Las Vegas?

Do you even know how you use Google Maps?

Do a search for Nellis AFB and tell me what you find.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: OMG - their sympathizers have grown by the millions, and israel's enemies have more ears today than ever. You gotta be **** nuts if you think differently.

You cannot cry out of one side of your face about all the unexpected flak israel is getting from the gender confused left, of all places, and then pretend with the other side that Hamas isn't moving the needle in the propaganda war.

Pick a narrative, son. Just one, though.
A bunch of progressives protesting the "cause of the week" isn't indicative of Hamas "growing".

By that logic then Ukraine Defense Force was growing by leaps and bounds this time a year ago... when all the proggies were dressing up in blue and yellow.
 
 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 7:11 pm » wrote: If the IDF was trying to take out Nellis AFB with conventional weapons (apples to apples argument) how would that "devastate" the city of Las Vegas?

Do you even know how you use Google Maps?

Do a search for Nellis AFB and tell me what you find.
I never suggested that Nellis was in danger from the IDF. But you are more around their conversations than I am, you being all up in their laps with your eager mouth. Is there something you're trying to let slip? Image

I lived in Vegas for 9 years - I know where Nellis is and what's around it. The cowards are using civilians for human shields - like the navy does all over the tidewater areas of virgina. 
 
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Dec 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: I never suggested that Nellis was in danger from the IDF. But you are more around their conversations than I am, you being all up in their laps with your eager mouth. Is there something you're trying to let slip? Image

I lived in Vegas for 9 years - I know where Nellis is and what's around it.
You were comparing Nellis AFB to Gaza by making the ridiculous statement that the US military was hiding behind civilians in Las Vegas, like Hamas was in Gaza.

You were making an apples to oranges argument pumpkin. (Produce trifecta there)


Don't get mad at me for pointing that out.

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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 7:15 pm » wrote: A bunch of progressives protesting the "cause of the week" isn't indicative of Hamas "growing".

By that logic then Ukraine Defense Force was growing by leaps and bounds this time a year ago... when all the proggies were dressing up in blue and yellow.
Lofl - fine. We will discount the american left. Trust and believe I want THAT coterie behind us, given they are siding with me.

I don't have the same smirk on my face regarding the enemies israel is making in the middle east.

You shouldn't, either. 
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: Do you really think Hamas is kicking the IDF's *** and gaining strength, or do you just say that because you loathe the Jews?
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RedheadedStranger » 08 Dec 2023, 6:42 pm » wrote: Your only evidence is a tweet.

My evidence was a tweet.

What make you right and me wrong?

Hmmm?
CPJ calls for release of Al-Araby Al-Jadeed Gaza correspondent Diaa Al-Kahlout 

Committee to protect journalists Beirut, December 7, 2023—

The Committee to Protect Journalists is alarmed by reports that Israeli authorities arrested journalist Diaa Al-Kahlout in Gaza along with members of his family, and calls for his immediate release.Palestinian journalist Diaa Al-Kahlout, chief bureau correspondent for the Qatari-funded London-based pan-Arab newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed, was arrested from the Al-Souk area in Beit Lahya, a city in northern Gaza, along with an unknown number of family members on December 7, according to a statement by his outlet and a report by Beirut-based news website Al-Modon.“We are deeply concerned by reports of the arrest of Al-Araby Al-Jadeed journalist Diaa Al-Kahlout in northern Gaza along with his family members,” said CPJ Middle East and North Africa Program Coordinator Sherif Mansour, in Washington, D.C. “The Israeli army should disclose his location, release him immediately, and take steps to ensure the safety of all journalists covering this war, especially those in Gaza who face imminent harm.”Al-Araby Al-Jadeed is one of the few pan-Arab news outlets that still have a physical presence in northern Gaza. The outlet reported that they lost communication with Al-Kahlout around noon on December 7, and later learned of his arrest from his family.

Al-Kahlout was arrested at gunpoint and was forced to leave his disabled daughter behind, his outlet reported, adding that Israeli soldiers allegedly beat and stripped Al-Kahlout and the others arrested with him.

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