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I'll take "what other countries say to Russian arms dealers" for $500 alex

What is "we aren't buying **** that don't work"

nefarious101 » 08 Dec 2023, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:03 pm

This ought to be good....both side produce military knock-offs that are junk and don't work....russia used to have good stuff until technology was required to progress....and china can make cool looking **** but it is nothing but cool junk that don't work

Russia Aims to Mass Produce 28nm Chips by 2027, 14nm by 2030

News
By Anton Shilov

 published October 11, 2023


As it's being ostracized and sanctioned by much of the world for its war against Ukraine, Russia is building up plans to revive its ailing local manufacturing of semiconductors since it cannot get chips from the usual suppliers. The country's new chip plan involves a rather massive investment over the next eight years; the goals don't sound ambitious. For example, while TSMC plans to hit 2nm by 2026, Russia wants 28nm local chip manufacturing by 2027 and 14nm by 2030, according to a new Cnews report.Russia's government has developed a preliminary version of its new microelectronics development plan that requires investments of around ₽3.19 trillion ($38.43 billion) by 2030. The money will be spent on developing local semiconductor production technologies, domestic chip development, data center infrastructure, developing local talents, and marketing homebrew chips and solutions, reports Cnews. On the semiconductor manufacturing side, the country plans to spend ₽420 billion ($5 billion) on new fabrication technologies and their ramp-up. One of the short-term goals is to ramp up local chip production using a 90nm fabrication technology by the end of the year. A longer-term goal is to establish manufacturing using a 28nm node by 2030, something TSMC did in 2011. 

 Historically somewhat successful with software and high-tech services, Russia has been comparatively unsuccessful with chip design and manufacturing. While there are plans to educate local talent and develop chips domestically, the country plans to establish a reverse engineering program of 'foreign solutions' to transfer their manufacturing to Russia by the end of the year. All digital items should be produced domestically by 2024. Things that the country cannot make domestically are expected to be sourced from China. While Russia's plan seems to contain many items and sets some goals, it should be noted that even China has not managed to localize a substantial portion of critically important chip manufacturing. Whether or not Russia, which cannot use technologies developed in the U.S., U.K., or Europe, will achieve its goals by 2024 or 2030 is up in the air. But that doesn't mean there isn't a likely answer.The plan is projected to be finalized and sent for official approval by the prime minister on April 22, 2022.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russi ... nm-by-2030

Now when will we be self reliant like Russia has planned ?
and not a slave to the TSMC .....
huh?
 

Majik » 08 Dec 2023, 6:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 6:00 pm

Russia Aims to Mass Produce 28nm Chips by 2027, 14nm by 2030

News
By Anton Shilov

 published October 11, 2023

As it's being ostracized and sanctioned by much of the world for its war against Ukraine, Russia is building up plans to revive its ailing local manufacturing of semiconductors since it cannot get chips from the usual suppliers. The country's new chip plan involves a rather massive investment over the next eight years; the goals don't sound ambitious. For example, while TSMC plans to hit 2nm by 2026, Russia wants 28nm local chip manufacturing by 2027 and 14nm by 2030, according to a new Cnews report.Russia's government has developed a preliminary version of its new microelectronics development plan that requires investments of around ₽3.19 trillion ($38.43 billion) by 2030. The money will be spent on developing local semiconductor production technologies, domestic chip development, data center infrastructure, developing local talents, and marketing homebrew chips and solutions, reports Cnews. On the semiconductor manufacturing side, the country plans to spend ₽420 billion ($5 billion) on new fabrication technologies and their ramp-up. One of the short-term goals is to ramp up local chip production using a 90nm fabrication technology by the end of the year. A longer-term goal is to establish manufacturing using a 28nm node by 2030, something TSMC did in 2011. 

 Historically somewhat successful with software and high-tech services, Russia has been comparatively unsuccessful with chip design and manufacturing. While there are plans to educate local talent and develop chips domestically, the country plans to establish a reverse engineering program of 'foreign solutions' to transfer their manufacturing to Russia by the end of the year. All digital items should be produced domestically by 2024. Things that the country cannot make domestically are expected to be sourced from China. While Russia's plan seems to contain many items and sets some goals, it should be noted that even China has not managed to localize a substantial portion of critically important chip manufacturing. Whether or not Russia, which cannot use technologies developed in the U.S., U.K., or Europe, will achieve its goals by 2024 or 2030 is up in the air. But that doesn't mean there isn't a likely answer.The plan is projected to be finalized and sent for official approval by the prime minister on April 22, 2022.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russi ... nm-by-2030

Now when will we be self reliant like Russia has planned ?
and not a slave to the TSMC .....
huh?

looks like they woulda if they coulda and now they know they shoulda......a total game changer kinda

Since you're going that route let's just throw caution to the wind....By the year 2030 people will be walking on the Sun...maybe...might...probably




maybe they can develop a chip that doesn't work...like everything else they got

nefarious101 » 08 Dec 2023, 8:35 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 8:35 pm

looks like they woulda if they coulda and now they know they shoulda......a total game changer kinda

Since you're going that route let's just throw caution to the wind....By the year 2030 people will be walking on the Sun...maybe...might...probably

maybe they can develop a chip that doesn't work...like everything else they got

Or maybe you are grasping at straws as Iran  has proven ...?.
what kind of American ........are you?
That you so easily are fooled regarding America progression in the  ongoing war with REPRESSION. .......WHEN IT IS THE PROGRESSIVES THAT LEAD THE CHARGE IN PROPAGANDA.







 

Sumela » 08 Dec 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 5:07 pm

      NEFFYS' VOCABULARY AND SENTENCE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE HE'S HIGH ON SOMETHING.
PROBABLY FENTANYL    

nefarious101 » 08 Dec 2023, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 5:58 pm

I'll take "what other countries say to Russian arms dealers" for $500 alex

What is "we aren't buying **** that don't work"

CHANGE YOUR AVATAR NAME TO "RETARD 101"
MORE ACCURATE, FRUITLOOP
 

Sumela » 08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am

Even hypersonic missile tech?  Nothing is off the table as China and Russia continue
to work together for combined security against the psychopathic West.

After so many recent failed war adventures....Afghanistan, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine
you'd think the DC psychos might reassess.   No, no, either Taiwan or Guyana are
the next victims of "Dumbocracy".

https://www.rt.com/russia/588714-russia ... ogy-china/‘No limit’ to sharing tech with China – PutinEven military secrets are not off the table, the Russian president has suggested

AN ALLIANCE OF TWO SUPERPOWERS.
WHAT BETTER SOLUTION FOR WESTERN HEGEMONY
 

righteous » 08 Dec 2023, 9:47 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 9:47 pm

AN ALLIANCE OF TWO SUPERPOWERS.
WHAT BETTER SOLUTION FOR WESTERN HEGEMONY

...dying West hegemony!  
 

We need Trump so we can get our **** together, or our enemies will eat us alive.

PhiloBeddo » 08 Dec 2023, 10:44 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 10:44 pm

We need Trump so we can get our **** together, or our enemies will eat us alive.

Maybe we need to suffer...in order to evolve
 

Russian military secrets?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

He has nothing to share but old outdated **** that has been proven by Ukraine to be just fancy looking junk.
The best made AKs aren't even made in Russia. They're made here in the USA.
Good luck China.

Majik » 08 Dec 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 9:14 pm

Or maybe you are grasping at straws as Iran  has proven ...?.
what kind of American ........are you?
That you so easily are fooled regarding America progression in the  ongoing war with REPRESSION. .......WHEN IT IS THE PROGRESSIVES THAT LEAD THE CHARGE IN PROPAGANDA.

99.99% of what I post is done so to make weak minds react uncontrollably....thanks for the contribution

problems we face as a nation:...do you know which category you belong in?

progressives
nazi-types
idiots
crybabies
degenerates 


Progressives love propaganda?...thanks Captain Obvious. 

Now....you need to admit your favorite media is also propaganda if you want to heal yourself...but you can't do that can you?

All the members of Sok City, you, cannon, sumela and righteous can't seem to get over yourselves.  You all are turning into a bunch of intolerant cry babies.....the is one big **** pile of mental illness you Sokites are sitting in reeks of paranoia and unfounded suspicions ...but it might be where you like it since it's of your own making

Sumela » 08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am

Even hypersonic missile tech?  Nothing is off the table as China and Russia continue
to work together for combined security against the psychopathic West.

After so many recent failed war adventures....Afghanistan, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine
you'd think the DC psychos might reassess.   No, no, either Taiwan or Guyana are
the next victims of "Dumbocracy".

https://www.rt.com/russia/588714-russia ... ogy-china/‘No limit’ to sharing tech with China – PutinEven military secrets are not off the table, the Russian president has suggested

Russia has to import calculators because they can't figure out how to make them....neither Russia or China's military equipment actually works....it's all "lipstick on a pig" ****.

So what exactly is this "No Limit" sharing between Russia and China supposed to do....equally spread out the crap that "Don't WorK" between them

Sumela » 08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am

Even hypersonic missile tech?  Nothing is off the table as China and Russia continue
to work together for combined security against the psychopathic West.

After so many recent failed war adventures....Afghanistan, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine
you'd think the DC psychos might reassess.   No, no, either Taiwan or Guyana are
the next victims of "Dumbocracy".

https://www.rt.com/russia/588714-russia ... ogy-china/‘No limit’ to sharing tech with China – PutinEven military secrets are not off the table, the Russian president has suggested

Then they aren't secrets are they...
 

righteous » 08 Dec 2023, 9:16 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 9:16 pm

      NEFFYS' VOCABULARY AND SENTENCE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE HE'S HIGH ON SOMETHING.
PROBABLY FENTANYL 

 

Good news yesterday....only around 990 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine.....so far 337,000+ russian dead in Ukraine...that's one special military action isn't it?

nefarious101 » 09 Dec 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2023, 9:30 am

Good news yesterday....only around 990 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine.....so far 337,000+ russian dead in Ukraine...that's one special military action isn't it?

   Yeah. Those Russians are really kicking some ***,aren't they? 
Hehehe.
 

Sumela » 08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 11:21 am

Even hypersonic missile tech?  Nothing is off the table as China and Russia continue
to work together for combined security against the psychopathic West.

After so many recent failed war adventures....Afghanistan, Syria, Crimea, Ukraine
you'd think the DC psychos might reassess.   No, no, either Taiwan or Guyana are
the next victims of "Dumbocracy".

https://www.rt.com/russia/588714-russia ... ogy-china/‘No limit’ to sharing tech with China – PutinEven military secrets are not off the table, the Russian president has suggested

People all wrapped up in mutual self deception flock around the idealists that promise the better tomorrows than genetics delivered to date.

ROG62 » 09 Dec 2023, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2023, 9:24 am

Then they aren't secrets are they...

The Chinese probably already stole most of the **** from Russia.
The deal will just finish off the last little bit they couldn't get.

I see this benefitting China and possibly going the other way for the Russkis in the long run.

Tempest62 » 08 Dec 2023, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2023, 1:51 pm

**** foreign policy has caused the conditions we have now.

Humanity choosing to mislead the species by chain of command separating each generation gap as a parallel universe and alternate realities living in sequence of arrival since inception of the species native to this atmosphere genetics has always eternally separated reproductions int he food chain native to this universal location.

Same way life would exist in any other location able to sustain ancestries forward now. What the hell does anyone except same species different displacements never duplicating form shaped since arriving to life a fertilized cell of combined chromosomes from their specific previous ancestors.

Everyone throughout history is so busy defending hypothetical scenarios, they didn't forgot how evolving happens naturally and created rule of law to silence any instinctive brain that figures out life doesn't exceed adapting to the moment here.