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Before the "Fight"
Heavyweights Injured bull
Photo Credit: SHARK
are tied to the bull’s neck for weeks before the fight to weaken him. Workers rub petroleum into his eyes to obscure his vision and beat the bull’s kidneys repeatedly. They give him tranquilizers, laxatives, and drugs that induce paralysis or a hypnotized state. They feed the bull a great deal of salt so that he will drink excessive amounts of water, become bloated and, consequently, slow. The vast majority of bulls are forced to undergo afeitado, the cutting down or filing of the horns. Part of the bull’s horns is sawed off so that he cannot thrust at his opponent properly. All the while, the bullfighter is practicing his techniques on underweight heifers.

For hours before to the bullfight, the bull is held in a tiny, dark isolation cell. He is not given food or water. Confused and anxious, the bull misses the company of his herd. Just before entering the bullring, he is harpooned, causing him to bleed, then released into the bright light of the arena.

https://www.peta.org/media/news-release ... ta-appeal/

Norfolk, Va. – After photos and video surfaced showing Rudy Giuliani, as CNN put it, “relishing a bullfight,” PETA fired off a letter urging the former mayor never to attend another bullfight.

PETA points out that bullfights are illegal in the U.S.—and for good reason: During these cruel events, humans taunt, exhaust, and stab each bull with a lance and several harpoon-like banderillas until he becomes weakened from blood loss. Then, the matador stabs the exhausted animal with a sword—and if he doesn’t die right away, other weapons are used to cut his spinal cord. Many bulls are paralyzed but still conscious as their ears and tail are cut off to be given to the matador as trophies.

“Bullfighting is a coward’s game in which packs of men team up to beat and weaken a sensitive animal long before the matador enters the ring,” says PETA President Ingrid Newkirk. “There’s nothing macho about it, and PETA is urging Rudy Giuliani to learn from his mistake and pledge never to attend another bullfight.”
 

jerrab » 10 Dec 2023, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2023, 12:10 pm

 bullffighting might sound  dangerous for matafors, but bulls don't really stand a chance.

https://www.lcanimal.org/index.php/camp ... llfighting

Bullfighting Photo Credit: SHARK
Bullfighting is a traditional Latin American spectacle in which bulls bred to fight are tortured by armed men on horseback, then killed by a matador. Starved, beaten, isolated, and drugged before the “fight,” the bull is so debilitated that he cannot defend himself. After being stabbed, speared, and harpooned, the suffering animal is killed.BullsBulls are generally calm, peaceful animals who behave violently only when defending themselves or their territory. For this reason, bulls must be expressly bred for bullfighting. They are bred to be slow, simple, and predictable; in other words, easy to slaughter. Some bulls are even bred to return to the bullfighter and the torture he inflicts, therein giving the mistaken impression that the animal is fighting a fair fight.

While nearly every matador will be injured each year they perform, deaths are not common12. In professional bullfights, it is rare to have more than one or two fatalities in a year. Since the modern form of bullfighting came to be in 1726, there have been about 50 fatalities1. Since the current style of bullfighting came into being in about 1726, about 40 matadors total have died in the ring2. This does not include banderilleros, picadores or novilleros2.

I'll be the first to admit it is more gruesome than my sport - cow fighting. More of the action in cow fighting is centered on the "make up" than on the "break up." 
 
There ARE exceptions. Cow fighting that takes place in a stock yard congruent to a slaughter house can take a nasty turn. The Embrazadores may become Matadors at the nod of the head meat packer.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Dec 2023, 3:02 am » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2023, 3:02 am

They haven't said anything one way or the other on my plans to introduce the far less violent sport of cow fighting.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Dec 2023, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2023, 4:17 pm

While nearly every matador will be injured each year they perform, deaths are not common12. In professional bullfights, it is rare to have more than one or two fatalities in a year. Since the modern form of bullfighting came to be in 1726, there have been about 50 fatalities1. Since the current style of bullfighting came into being in about 1726, about 40 matadors total have died in the ring2. This does not include banderilleros, picadores or novilleros2.

I'll be the first to admit it is more gruesome than my sport - cow fighting. More of the action in cow fighting is centered on the "make up" than on the "break up." 
 
There ARE exceptions. Cow fighting that takes place in a stock yard congruent to a slaughter house can take a nasty turn. The Embrazadores may become Matadors at the nod of the head meat packer.

I bet cows taste better 
 

Mrkelly » 10 Dec 2023, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Dec 2023, 5:59 pm

I bet cows taste better

AND have better taste. 

I've had favorites who wouldn't let my hare-lipped brother even get the stool set up behind them.