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Israel used U.S.-supplied white phosphorus in Lebanon attack
Israel used U.S.-supplied white phosphorus in Lebanon attack
By righteous
11 Dec 2023 6:38 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
13 Dec 2023 1:43 pm
Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Gaza was invaded because it attacked Israel. There hadn't been a single Jew living in Gaza since the early 2000's. Israel actually evicted Jews from Gaza to give it completely to the Palestinians. Now, you may not believe Israel should have retaliated the way it did to Gaza's attack - you'd have to explain your position on that, though.
As for so-called "evictions" of Palestinians from East Jerusalem - I had to do a little research into this, as I was completely unfamiliar with these claims. Turns out Jews bought Palestinians' homes in that area, and part of the land originally belonged to Jews who had been forced out by Palestinian squatters. That's apparently what the Palestinians started a war over. I think that's ****, because Palestinians have been planning for war ever since they got control of Gaza.
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WORLD Israeli gov't offers incentives to settlersJANUARY 31, 2012 / 11:00 AM EST / AP
13 Dec 2023 1:47 pm
------------------------------------------Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Gaza was invaded because it attacked Israel. There hadn't been a single Jew living in Gaza since the early 2000's. Israel actually evicted Jews from Gaza to give it completely to the Palestinians. Now, you may not believe Israel should have retaliated the way it did to Gaza's attack - you'd have to explain your position on that, though.
As for so-called "evictions" of Palestinians from East Jerusalem - I had to do a little research into this, as I was completely unfamiliar with these claims. Turns out Jews bought Palestinians' homes in that area, and part of the land originally belonged to Jews who had been forced out by Palestinian squatters. That's apparently what the Palestinians started a war over. I think that's ****, because Palestinians have been planning for war ever since they got control of Gaza.
How many Jews live in West Bank settlements?
In total, over 500,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank excluding East Jerusalem, with an additional 220,000 Jewish settlers residing in East Jerusalem. Additionally, over 20,000 Israeli citizens live in settlements in the Golan Heights.
13 Dec 2023 2:07 pm
Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Gaza was invaded because it attacked Israel. There hadn't been a single Jew living in Gaza since the early 2000's. Israel actually evicted Jews from Gaza to give it completely to the Palestinians. Now, you may not believe Israel should have retaliated the way it did to Gaza's attack - you'd have to explain your position on that, though.
As for so-called "evictions" of Palestinians from East Jerusalem - I had to do a little research into this, as I was completely unfamiliar with these claims. Turns out Jews bought Palestinians' homes in that area, and part of the land originally belonged to Jews who had been forced out by Palestinian squatters. That's apparently what the Palestinians started a war over. I think that's ****, because Palestinians have been planning for war ever since they got control of Gaza.
I blame biden anf israel for 10/7. they created a situation they knew would lead to violence.
13 Dec 2023 2:14 pm
all with the approval of bidenSkans » 13 Dec 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Gaza was invaded because it attacked Israel. There hadn't been a single Jew living in Gaza since the early 2000's. Israel actually evicted Jews from Gaza to give it completely to the Palestinians. Now, you may not believe Israel should have retaliated the way it did to Gaza's attack - you'd have to explain your position on that, though.
As for so-called "evictions" of Palestinians from East Jerusalem - I had to do a little research into this, as I was completely unfamiliar with these claims. Turns out Jews bought Palestinians' homes in that area, and part of the land originally belonged to Jews who had been forced out by Palestinian squatters. That's apparently what the Palestinians started a war over. I think that's ****, because Palestinians have been planning for war ever since they got control of Gaza.
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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... gregation/
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Ras Jrabah covers about 84 acres of lands belonging to the Al-Hawashleh tribe, and its residents have lived there since before Dimona was established. Amnesty International’s 2022 report on Israel’s apartheid system sets out how discriminatory laws on planning and zoning designed to maximize land and resources for Jewish Israelis at the expense of Palestinians.
13 Dec 2023 2:56 pm
Who cares? We weren't talking about the West Bank. I said no Jews lived in Gaza since the early 2000's.jerrab » 13 Dec 2023, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑ ------------------------------------------
How many Jews live in West Bank settlements?
In total, over 500,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank excluding East Jerusalem, with an additional 220,000 Jewish settlers residing in East Jerusalem. Additionally, over 20,000 Israeli citizens live in settlements in the Golan Heights.
13 Dec 2023 2:59 pm
As much as I hate Biden - it's **** to pin 10/7 on him. That old codger had nothing to do with it. He can't even wipe his own ***.jerrab » 13 Dec 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑ I blame biden anf israel for 10/7. they created a situation they knew would lead to violence.
Israel had nothing to do with 10/7 either. They did nothing to instigate an attack by Hamas in Gaza.
Now, Russia and Iran did. They told Hamas now is the time to attack Israel, because they were looking to get the heat off of Russia in Ukraine. And, it worked.
13 Dec 2023 3:30 pm
Yes.Bidencrimefamily » 13 Dec 2023, 4:12 am » wrote: ↑Germany. Japan. Any questions.Cannonpointer » 13 Dec 2023, 4:05 am » wrote: ↑ You need a link to prove we leave failed states in our wake when we play regime change in the middle east?
Are those in the middle east, dick sucker?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
13 Dec 2023 4:22 pm
----------------------------------------------------------Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ As much as I hate Biden - it's **** to pin 10/7 on him. That old codger had nothing to do with it. He can't even wipe his own ***.
Israel had nothing to do with 10/7 either. They did nothing to instigate an attack by Hamas in Gaza.
Now, Russia and Iran did. They told Hamas now is the time to attack Israel, because they were looking to get the heat off of Russia in Ukraine. And, it worked.
Does the Israeli government evict Palestinians?
An Israeli court has given the go-ahead for the forced eviction of 500 Palestinian Bedouins in the Negev/Naqab region, highlighting the deep discrimination that Palestinian citizens of Israel face under apartheid, Amnesty International said today.Jul 28, 202
13 Dec 2023 4:30 pm
------------------------------------------------------Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ As much as I hate Biden - it's **** to pin 10/7 on him. That old codger had nothing to do with it. He can't even wipe his own ***.
Israel had nothing to do with 10/7 either. They did nothing to instigate an attack by Hamas in Gaza.
Now, Russia and Iran did. They told Hamas now is the time to attack Israel, because they were looking to get the heat off of Russia in Ukraine. And, it worked.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/553 ... el-policy/
Other progressives, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), have condemned Israel’s plans to evict Palestinian families from the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem, plans that are under review by Israel’s Supreme Court.Warren called the proposed evictions “abhorrent” and said the Biden administration “should make clear to the Israeli government that these evictions are illegal and must stop immediately
13 Dec 2023 4:35 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ As much as I hate Biden - it's **** to pin 10/7 on him. That old codger had nothing to do with it. He can't even wipe his own ***.
Israel had nothing to do with 10/7 either. They did nothing to instigate an attack by Hamas in Gaza.
Now, Russia and Iran did. They told Hamas now is the time to attack Israel, because they were looking to get the heat off of Russia in Ukraine. And, it worked.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/politics ... index.html
Vocal liberals have criticized the White House for placating Israel and ignoring human rights as violence mounts, as well as loudly criticizing Biden for not openly opposing Israel’s planned evictions of Palestinian families from a neighborhood in east Jerusalem.
13 Dec 2023 4:40 pm
13 Dec 2023 4:42 pm
Did you vote for trump. Trump moved the embassy.
13 Dec 2023 5:13 pm
--------------------------------------------------------Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: ↑ As much as I hate Biden - it's **** to pin 10/7 on him. That old codger had nothing to do with it. He can't even wipe his own ***.
Israel had nothing to do with 10/7 either. They did nothing to instigate an attack by Hamas in Gaza.
Now, Russia and Iran did. They told Hamas now is the time to attack Israel, because they were looking to get the heat off of Russia in Ukraine. And, it worked.
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/14/gaz ... en-legacy/
The Biden administration has funneled weapons, intelligence support, and unwavering political backing for Israel’s public campaign to erase from the earth Gaza’s existence as a Palestinian territory. As Israeli settlers wage campaigns of terror against the Palestinians in the West Bank, the U.S. remained entrenched in its global isolation, voting last week against a U.N. resolution demanding an end to the illegal settlements. The resolution condemned illegal Israeli settlements, calling them “illegal and an obstacle to peace.” The resolution, which passed 145-7, called for “the immediate and complete cessation of all Israeli settlement activities in all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory.” Only five countries joined the U.S. and Israel in voting “no”: Canada, Hungary, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Nauru.
13 Dec 2023 5:31 pm
not in 2016, then I voted 3rd party. voted for Trump 2020 and will again 2024.
13 Dec 2023 5:45 pm
YOU KNOW **** ABOUT INTERNATIONAL LAW, DICKHEAD.Skans » 13 Dec 2023, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑ Israel is not governed by "Protocol III". Just because 2 countries make a treaty does not mean they can rope in other countries to be bound by it. Contrary to your idiotic understanding of "the world" there is no World Order. The fact that you have to say it in all caps is further evidence that you are just angry and completely ignorant of how treaties and international laws actually work.
The rest of what you've said is cut-and-paste **** which further proves that you do not understand 1) what is and is not a war crime; 2) what international laws Israel is bound by and 3) what treaties Israel (or any other country) are bound by.
If you want to refute me on this, start with showing the forum exactly how Israel is (not should be) bound by what you call "Protocol III". If you can't even do that, then I win, you lose and the discussion is over.
HERE'S THE "RULES OF WAR 101 FOR DUMMIES" BY THE ICRC
The laws of war in a nutshell | International Committee of the Red Cross (icrc.org)
it must never be fired at, or in close proximity to, a populated civilian area or civilian infrastructure, due to the high likelihood that the fires and smoke it causes spread. Such attacks, which fail to distinguish between civilians and civilian objects and fighters and military objectives, are indiscriminate and thus prohibited.
Questions and Answers on Israel’s Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and Lebanon | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)
Its use in densely populated areas of Gaza violates the requirement under international humanitarian law that parties to the conflict take all feasible precautions to avoid civilian injury and loss of life. It also highlights the need to reexamine the status and adequacy of Protocol III of the Convention on Conventional Weapons (CCW), currently the only international law dedicated to governing incendiary weapons.
Evidence of Israel's unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate (amnesty.org)
Amnesty International accuses Israel of illegally using white phosphorus in southern Lebanon - JURIST - News
13 Dec 2023 6:02 pm
HEY NEO-KNUCKLEHEADSkans » 13 Dec 2023, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑ Israel is not governed by "Protocol III". Just because 2 countries make a treaty does not mean they can rope in other countries to be bound by it. Contrary to your idiotic understanding of "the world" there is no World Order. The fact that you have to say it in all caps is further evidence that you are just angry and completely ignorant of how treaties and international laws actually work.
The rest of what you've said is cut-and-paste **** which further proves that you do not understand 1) what is and is not a war crime; 2) what international laws Israel is bound by and 3) what treaties Israel (or any other country) are bound by.
If you want to refute me on this, start with showing the forum exactly how Israel is (not should be) bound by what you call "Protocol III". If you can't even do that, then I win, you lose and the discussion is over.
The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons – UNODA
3/ Protocol III – Incendiary Weapons
Prohibits the use of weapons primarily designed to set fire to objects or cause burn injuries against civilians.
13 Dec 2023 7:03 pm
biden got the nomination because he was the most pro israel candidate. he also instigated the war in ukraine by getting zelinski to threaten russia before the invasion. zellinski vowed to fight russia to get crimera back and biden sent weapons before the invasion.
13 Dec 2023 8:04 pm
TOO MUCH INHALATION OF WHITE PHOSPHOROUS
NOW I UNDERSTAND
13 Dec 2023 8:06 pm
So I take it the answer is yes - you voted for Biden.jerrab » 13 Dec 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑ biden got the nomination because he was the most pro israel candidate. he also instigated the war in ukraine by getting zelinski to threaten russia before the invasion. zellinski vowed to fight russia to get crimera back and biden sent weapons before the invasion.
13 Dec 2023 8:08 pm
i voted for sanders in the primary. that was all I voted.
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