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Majik » 14 Dec 2023, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 1:28 pm

No, what I am talking about is the weaponization by your party of the various institutions that are supposed to serve all Americans and both parties equally.
and they don't now .....
Case in point ....
The FBI which is supposed to serve all Americans equally and not allow political partisanship to infect their mandate has allowed political partisanship to infect it.
and those that have infected it are overwhelmingly Democrat progressives ....
you can deny this all day long  but your denial will not change the reality of what has occured and is occuring ....and how this weaponization has **** up America more than 1000 Donald Trump's could ever ....

Your opinion as to the purported political tilt of the FBI is just that.

And the FBI is not supposed to "serve both parties equally".  The mission of the FBI is to protect and defend the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats, to uphold and enforce the criminal laws of the United States, and to provide leadership and criminal justice services to federal, state, municipal, and international agencies and partners; and to perform these responsibilities in a manner that is responsive to the needs of the public and is faithful to the Constitution of the United States.  If the FBI has reason to believe that one political party has been infiltrated by terrorists, insurrectionists,  or criminals, it certainly will deal with that party more strictly than the other.

 

ROG62 » 13 Dec 2023, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 6:35 am

Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit to Committing at Least One Kind of Voter Fraud During 2020 Election... 

17% of mail-in voters admit that in 2020 they voted in a state where they are “no longer a permanent resident”

21% of mail-in voters admitted that they filled out a ballot for a friend or family member

17% of mail-in voters said they signed a ballot for a friend or family member “with or without his or her permission”

8% of likely voters say they were offered “pay” or a “reward” for voting in 2020

Taken together, the results of these survey questions appear to show that voter fraud was widespread in the 2020 election, especially among those who cast mail-in ballots.

https://heartland.org/opinion/heartland ... -election/

who knew? 

I trust Chris Krebs, Donald Trump's handpicked security czar, a lot more than I do the Heartland Institute.  

Sorry.

Fake news.

If you think that 17% of Americans would admit committing a felony to an anonymous pollster, I've got a bridge to sell you.

maineman » 14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm

I trust Chris Krebs, Donald Trump's handpicked security czar, a lot more than I do the Heartland Institute.  

Sorry.

Fake news.

If you think that 17% of Americans would admit committing a felony to an anonymous pollster, I've got a bridge to sell you.

just reporting a poll...whether it's factual, I would have to say yes as they are reputable...now as far  as the questions asked or in what context...
 

maineman » 14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm

I trust Chris Krebs, Donald Trump's handpicked security czar, a lot more than I do the Heartland Institute.  

Sorry.

Fake news.

If you think that 17% of Americans would admit committing a felony to an anonymous pollster, I've got a bridge to sell you.

You only trust him because he says what you want to hear.

Sorry Stain... most of the Country knows that **** Biden was installed and not elected.
 

ROG62 » 14 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

just reporting a poll...whether it's factual, I would have to say yes as they are reputable...now as far  as the questions asked or in what context...

I would say that the reputation of that particular organization is iffy at best....

maineman » 14 Dec 2023, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 3:34 pm

Your opinion as to the purported political tilt of the FBI is just that.

And the FBI is not supposed to "serve both parties equally".  The mission of the FBI is to protect and defend the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats, to uphold and enforce the criminal laws of the United States, and to provide leadership and criminal justice services to federal, state, municipal, and international agencies and partners; and to perform these responsibilities in a manner that is responsive to the needs of the public and is faithful to the Constitution of the United States.  If the FBI has reason to believe that one political party has been infiltrated by terrorists, insurrectionists,  or criminals, it certainly will deal with that party more strictly than the other.

Ex-FBI agent linked to 'Russiagate' probe sent to prisonGot 4-year sentence for foreign conspiracy

McGonigal was involved in the Crossfire Hurricane probe, also known as the “Russiagate” probe, into the Trump campaign in 2016. Crossfire Hurricane turned into a 22-month, $32 million investigation that ultimately found no evidence Trump colluded with Russia to swing the 2016 election in his favor.McGonigal was also involved in a “classified defensive briefing” that was given to the attorneys of failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in 2015, in what was called a “clear double standard by the Department of Justice,” by Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham in 2020.

https://www.wnd.com/2023/12/ex-fbi-agen ... nt-prison/
 
 

Yeah I remember when polls said that republicans would pick up 65 seats in the mid term.
 

maineman » 14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2023, 3:52 pm

Fake news.

If you think that 17% of Americans would admit committing a felony to an anonymous pollster, I've got a bridge to sell you.

If they did

they were disgruntled tRumpers 

Majik » 15 Dec 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 8:45 am

Ex-FBI agent linked to 'Russiagate' probe sent to prisonGot 4-year sentence for foreign conspiracy

McGonigal was involved in the Crossfire Hurricane probe, also known as the “Russiagate” probe, into the Trump campaign in 2016. Crossfire Hurricane turned into a 22-month, $32 million investigation that ultimately found no evidence Trump colluded with Russia to swing the 2016 election in his favor.McGonigal was also involved in a “classified defensive briefing” that was given to the attorneys of failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in 2015, in what was called a “clear double standard by the Department of Justice,” by Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham in 2020.

https://www.wnd.com/2023/12/ex-fbi-agen ... nt-prison/

and I am sure that there are FBI agents who are MAGA righties as well.  What's your point?

maineman » 15 Dec 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 11:10 am

and I am sure that there are FBI agents who are MAGA righties as well.  What's your point?

Will you agree that political partisanship is what needs to be curbed in the FBI?

 

Majik » 15 Dec 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2023, 11:40 am

Will you agree that political partisanship is what needs to be curbed in the FBI?

no.  I don't see it as some chronic, systemic problem like you do.  Everyone has a political bias.  Not everyone is 100% successful in keeping that bias from impacting their work.  I have known and worked with several FBI and NCIS agents over my career and found them all to be consummate professionals.

maineman » 13 Dec 2023, 10:49 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 10:49 pm

I am scared of what an admitted wannabe dictator could do if morons like you put him back in office.

Please, explain how Trump being a dictator would actually happen.  I'd love to hear this. 
What's he going to do, use the DoJ to prosecute/imprison his political opponents?
Maybe prevent his opponents from being on ballots?

 

golfboy » 19 Dec 2023, 9:30 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2023, 9:30 pm

Please, explain how Trump being a dictator would actually happen.  I'd love to hear this. 
What's he going to do, use the DoJ to prosecute/imprison his political opponents?
Maybe prevent his opponents from being on ballots?

Not sure i think trump is still working out the kinks. 

ROG62 » 13 Dec 2023, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

13 Dec 2023, 6:35 am

Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit to Committing at Least One Kind of Voter Fraud During 2020 Election... 

17% of mail-in voters admit that in 2020 they voted in a state where they are “no longer a permanent resident”

21% of mail-in voters admitted that they filled out a ballot for a friend or family member

17% of mail-in voters said they signed a ballot for a friend or family member “with or without his or her permission”

8% of likely voters say they were offered “pay” or a “reward” for voting in 2020

Taken together, the results of these survey questions appear to show that voter fraud was widespread in the 2020 election, especially among those who cast mail-in ballots.

https://heartland.org/opinion/heartland ... -election/

who knew? 

Amd boom.just like that republicans love polls again. Imagine that. 

Bidencrimefamily » 19 Dec 2023, 9:31 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2023, 9:31 pm

Not sure i think trump is still working out the kinks.

Wow, how unsurprising you'd be clueless.