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Vegas » 18 Dec 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:16 pm

Your graph shows the number of mass shootings from 1982 to 2022. 
1982- 1
2022- 11

Well ****, the population in America was 231 million and it's now 333 million. We are at a 100 million more people, so of course their will be a proportionate increase. 

But it's only 10 more. That's actually pretty damn good.

That's some serious logic, and even better math....depressingly Level 0.27, but nevertheless..

The population has increased by a FACTOR of 1.44.

Mass shootings have risen by an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
 

Vegas » 18 Dec 2023, 12:20 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:20 pm

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:12 pm

Awesome...you see the error of your ways...

More guns do not necessarily equate to more violent crime.  Record gun sales and a decrease in violent crimes indicates otherwise.

I just curb stomped him with his own link. 

 

lol

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Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:12 pm

Awesome...you see the error of your ways...

More guns do not necessarily equate to more violent crime.  Record gun sales and a decrease is violent crimes indicates otherwise.

More guns do not necessarily equate to more violent crime

So the talking point that more guns equates to more crime is false.

Go ahead and take a 3rd stand on this.

 

The econd two are from the same post.  

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:41 am

Monderegal » 18 Dec 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:28 am

According to statistics, the crime rate is down across the board in almost every major American metropolitan area. I guess that might be a win for Biden but I think something deeper is going on in the local level. Will crime continue to fall? At least I can hope so.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... tlanticcom

While I won't tie the decrease if violent crime to more firearm ownership I will say that more guns apparently DO NOT equate to more violent crime.  And that has been the talking point of the gunophobes.

 

 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:49 am

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:43 am

As long as YOUR version of THEIR case is to be believed.

What is YOUR position?

Where is yours?  

I don't know what rock you have been living under the past few months but there has been report after report that violent crime is down across the nation.  

It is also fact that since COVID we have seen some of the highest monthly and annual firearm sales ever.  

So the talking point that more guns equates to more crime is false.  

 

 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:04 pm

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:58 am

If you could reason, you wouldn't be a moron.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811 ... in-the-us/

FBI report: Violent crime decreases to pre-pandemic levels, but property crime is on the rise
 https://apnews.com/article/fbi-crime-re ... a42683b100




 

 

Looks like ONE Stand to me NoStands.

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:23 pm

The econd two are from the same post.  

Looks like ONE Stand to me NoStands.

That looks like a pile of twaddle, again.

The two positions are NOT the same, Verbal.

Why, if everyone knows crime is falling, are people buying more guns?
 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:25 pm

That looks like a pile of twaddle, again.

The two positions are NOT the same, Verbal.

Why, if everyone knows crime is falling, are people buying more guns?

What are these two positions, Dum Dum?

Violent crime is falling, Dum Dum.  Make your case and post these two stands.  

Sumela » 18 Dec 2023, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:00 pm

Also maybe because more folks are working multiple jobs

more than any time since the 'Plandemic....'

folks are too tired to do crimes.  Biden has worn them out.
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The number of Americans working two or more jobs has reached its highest level since the pandemic's start, new federal data show, a trend that suggests more of us are feeling inflation's pinch

Nov 3, 2023Americans have two jobs or more, a sign of inflation's burden

****...."criminals working"?   
 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:27 pm

What are these two positions, Dum Dum?

Violent crime is falling, Dum Dum.  Make your case and post these two stands.

I posted them, verbatim.


 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm

I posted them, verbatim.

And I then I posted them in their entirety, in context, and with links.

You had to separate two sentences from ONE post to make your point.

It is quite obvious I was talking about VIOLENT CRIME in each of those posts.  You are busted lying. 

Monderegal » 18 Dec 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 11:28 am

According to statistics, the crime rate is down across the board in almost every major American metropolitan area. I guess that might be a win for Biden but I think something deeper is going on in the local level. Will crime continue to fall? At least I can hope so.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... tlanticcom

more than likely falsified reports to try, and I do mean TRY to make joe look good...
 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:30 pm

And I then I posted them in their entirety, in context, and with links.

You had to separate two sentences from ONE post to make your point.

It is quite obvious I was talking about VIOLENT CRIME in each of those posts.  You are busted lying.

You always do....because you run from your words.

Context doesn't mitigate your stupid in this context....either.
 

ROG62 » 18 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm

****...."criminals working"? 

Crime doesnt pay what it used to....inflation
 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:20 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:20 pm

That's some serious logic, and even better math....depressingly Level 0.27, but nevertheless..

The population has increased by a FACTOR of 1.44.

Mass shootings have risen by an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

Ok ****! Read all of this! ALL!!!

God man. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? 

Ok...follow along...I will try to explain this at a elementary level. 

1 mass shooting in 1982. 11 in 2022. Ok. So far so good?   Follow....follow...focus now....

The percent change increase was (333M - 231M)/231) x 100 = 44.1% population increase. (Or your factor of 1.44).

This means if the rate was proportional, then for every 1 year, there would be a 44.1% increase in mass shootings every year. So, in 2022, proportionately there would have been (2022 -1982) 40 x .44 = 17.64 more mass shootings. There were 11. So we are actually under the expected target. 



@Huey  what are the chances that he would have read past the first 5 words of this? Let alone understand it. 

 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:32 pm

Context doesn't mitigate your stupid in this context....either.

Coming from the guy who only cherry picks his data.               

Vegas » 18 Dec 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:35 pm

Ok ****! Read all of this! ALL!!!

God man. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? 

Ok...follow along...I will try to explain this at a elementary level. 

1 mass shooting in 1982. 11 in 2022. Ok. So far so good?   Follow....follow...focus now....

The percent change increase was (333M - 231M)/231) x 100 = 44.1% population increase. (Or your factor of 1.44).

This means if the rate was proportional, then for every 1 year, there would be a 44.1% increase in mass shootings every year. So, in 2022, proportionately there would have been (2022 -1982) 40 x .44 = 17.64 more mass shootings. There were 11. So we are actually under the expected target. 

@Huey  what are the chances that he would have read past the first 5 words of this? Let alone understand it.

Only if it opens:

"You and my uncle are right..."
 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:32 pm

You always do....because you run from your words.

Context doesn't mitigate your stupid in this context....either.

I posted my words.  On ONE sentence in a post where I was discussing the decrease in violent crime I left out the word "violent".  That is your only bitch.


Consider yourself BITCH slapped.  Unless you got something else, you may run along now. 

R.Suave » 18 Dec 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:41 pm

Only if it opens:

"You and my uncle are right..."

@Huey  just as predicted. He got his *** stomped again, so his response is to strike through     

He sucks at even the most fundamental of mathematics. 

Vegas » 18 Dec 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:35 pm

Ok ****! Read all of this! ALL!!!

God man. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? 

Ok...follow along...I will try to explain this at a elementary level. 

1 mass shooting in 1982. 11 in 2022. Ok. So far so good?   Follow....follow...focus now....

The percent change increase was (333M - 231M)/231) x 100 = 44.1% population increase. (Or your factor of 1.44).

This means if the rate was proportional, then for every 1 year, there would be a 44.1% increase in mass shootings every year. So, in 2022, proportionately there would have been (2022 -1982) 40 x .44 = 17.64 more mass shootings. There were 11. So we are actually under the expected target. 

@Huey  what are the chances that he would have read past the first 5 words of this? Let alone understand it.

I just caught him lying again so we will never know the truth.

Vegas » 18 Dec 2023, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:43 pm

@Huey  just as predicted. He got his *** stomped again, so his response is to strike through     

He sucks at even the most fundamental of mathematics. 

 

He shouldn't have come in here trolling. 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:43 pm

I just caught him lying again so we will never know the truth.

Oh yeah, he has been lying about my challenge to him for the past 3 weeks straight. He lied about it incessantly last time he was here. 

He will continue to lie about it. 

Pathetic excuse for a human being. 

Huey » 18 Dec 2023, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2023, 12:30 pm

And I then I posted them in their entirety, in context, and with links.

You had to separate two sentences from ONE post to make your point.

It is quite obvious I was talking about VIOLENT CRIME in each of those posts.  You are busted lying.

And I then I posted them in their entirety, in context, and with links

So what?

You always do when caught saying Stupid ****.

But we are looking at two specific pieces of Stupid **** that contradict each other.

These pieces of Stupid **** stand on their own. Context will not change the meaning of either.