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Z09 » 01 Jan 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 8:36 am

Then why are you so scared about him being on the ballot?

Afraid of lower inflation?
Secure borders?
Lower energy prices?

Letting him on the ballot is a big mistake. 

Believe me - I know. 

It was MY TURN!!!       
 

GeorgeW.Bush » 02 Jan 2024, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 2:20 pm

I misunderestimated you. 

You're the type of fella who attacks the messenger because he doesn't dare touch the message. 
 

 

You know have 43 posts.  You should stop there.    

HillaryClinton » 02 Jan 2024, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 2:23 pm

"Would"?

They DID. It's why they attacked the Germans.

If only our fathers knew.
 

Z09 » 20 Dec 2023, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2023, 6:33 am

Wake up America....

In the recent news about Former President Donald Trump being kept off the primary ballots in Maine and Colorado, a big legal debate has started as everyone knows, focusing on the rules in the U.S. Constitution. According to USA Today and about a zillion other news outlets, both states used Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to stop Trump from being on the 2024 Republican primary ballot. This part of the Constitution says that people who have been involved in rebellion against the U.S. can't hold public office. The decisions by the Colorado Supreme Court and Maine's Secretary of State, Shenna Bellows, show how important this constitutional rule is for deciding who can run for office.

But here's the catch – both decisions are going to be challenged. Maine's case is going to the state Superior Court, and Colorado's decision is being looked at by the U.S. Supreme Court. This legal back-and-forth makes us dig deeper into U.S. laws, especially regarding whether people who aren't citizens or might be considered illegal immigrants can run for office.

Looking at the 14th Amendment, it talks about limiting those who have sworn to serve, like Senators or Representatives. If they've been part of a rebellion against the U.S., they can't hold public office. What's interesting is that it doesn't specifically say whether illegal immigrants can run for office or not, leaving things a bit unclear.

Then there's the 18 U.S. Code § 611, which deals with aliens taking part in elections. It clearly says they can't vote for important officials like the President or members of Congress. But this is about voting, not holding public office. Aliens can only vote if state law allows it.

So, the question of whether illegal immigrants can go for public office in the U.S. isn't a simple yes or no. The Constitution and laws give room for interpretation, making it a bit of a puzzle. To really understand the situation, we have to look at historical examples, see how other countries handle it, and think about any possible impacts on policies. And let's not forget the ethical side – we need to consider the societal and cultural contexts that make this more than just a legal technicality.

In short, figuring out if illegal immigrants can aim for public office in the U.S. involves a mix of constitutional rules, legal codes, history, and ethical questions. Understanding all these factors is crucial for anyone trying to untangle the complexities that decide if individuals in this situation can play a role in top-level public service. Personally, I believe and stand by, if you are not a citizen of this nation you should not be allowed to vote here or hold any public office in this nation period.

Do people in this forum always attack one another and make nasty and hateful remarks. Being argumentative and standing on your own principles and beliefs is one thing but to slander and devalue another human being is not comprehensible to me in the least. For one it is extremely counterproductive and for two it's a severe waste of time and energy when instead of judging and defaming one could be creating possible solutions and discussing real change and positive growth and progress. Just thought I'd put it out there and see if I get a civil response or if I will get exactly what I expect and more of what is seemingly common in this forum - rudeness. But we shall see. I am hoping for some decency to show through for I believe there is always light to dispel darkness and truth to dispel lies and goodness to dispel hate.

Z09 » 20 Dec 2023, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2023, 6:33 am

Wake up America....

Well we can trust illegal immigrants more. 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 2:25 pm

You know have 43 posts.  You should stop there.  

I'm a proud hillary voter. I have nothing to be ashamed of.

Liz Cheney is a friend of mine. So it Mike Obama. 

I mean Michelle. 
 

usa360 » 02 Jan 2024, 10:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 10:32 pm

Do people in this forum always attack one another and make nasty and hateful remarks. Being argumentative and standing on your own principles and beliefs is one thing but to slander and devalue another human being is not comprehensible to me in the least. For one it is extremely counterproductive and for two it's a severe waste of time and energy when instead of judging and defaming one could be creating possible solutions and discussing real change and positive growth and progress. Just thought I'd put it out there and see if I get a civil response or if I will get exactly what I expect and more of what is seemingly common in this forum - rudeness. But we shall see. I am hoping for some decency to show through for I believe there is always light to dispel darkness and truth to dispel lies and goodness to dispel hate.

They called me "Lips" at Yale, I was such a ***. 

But I feel butch next to you, little ****. 
 

Squatchman » 01 Jan 2024, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 8:33 am

  Run?
Trump can barely walk.
He even needs lifts in the toes of his shoes to keep him from tipping over. Not to mention the incontinence. 
Age and morbid obesity are taking a toll.
He'll most likely die before Biden.
Heck he might die tomorrow.
Wouldn't that be a crying shame?

Don't blame me. I voted for Hillary, same as you.