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Good News for concealed carry permit holders in CA.

LOS ANGELES — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked a California law that would have banned carrying firearms in most public places, ruling that it violates the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and deprives people of their ability to defend themselves and their loved ones.The law signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September was set to take effect Jan. 1. It would have prohibited people from carrying concealed guns in 26 places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban would apply whether the person has a permit to carry a concealed weapon or not. One exception would be for privately owned businesses that put up signs saying people are allowed to bring guns on their premises. 

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Michel said under the law, gun permit holders "wouldn't be able to drive across town without passing through a prohibited area and breaking the law." He said the judge's decision makes Californians safer because criminals are deterred when law-abiding citizens can defend themselves.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/12208520 ... and%20zoos.
 

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

actionjackson » 22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

Why not stop by the 2A forum at the other place and get educated.

CCP holders as a group are the most law abiding among us.

Debunking the Myth of "Concealed-Carry Killers"

Moreover, concealed-carry permit holders are not “random people,” but individuals with the government’s affirmative approval to carry a concealed firearm in public places after having completed a series of steps required by the government.

AndAccording to the data, America’s 18 million concealed-carry permit holders accounted for 801 firearm-related homicides over a 15-year span, which amounts to roughly 0.7% of all firearm-related homicides during that time. That percentage drops even lower if any of the defendants in the 72 cases still pending in court are determined to have acted in lawful self-defense.

https://www.heritage.org/firearms/comme ... ry-killers
 
 

This is what happens when you think you are gonna get around a recent USSC ruling, Gavin.

In Tennessee we have Constitutional carry but you must keep your firearm outa sight site...PERIOD unless you are about to use it for a good reason.   There are a few places where you can't carry it (GOV BLDs, Hospitals, etc) but most place you can.   A biz cannot stop you from legally carry'n it inside.

actionjackson » 22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

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That is awesome isn't it !
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But you gotta remember...ghetto rats and Appalachians never have permits anyhow.
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actionjackson » 22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

You're an idiot.
 

Huey » 22 Dec 2023, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:31 pm

Good News for concealed carry permit holders in CA.

LOS ANGELES — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked a California law that would have banned carrying firearms in most public places, ruling that it violates the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and deprives people of their ability to defend themselves and their loved ones.The law signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September was set to take effect Jan. 1. It would have prohibited people from carrying concealed guns in 26 places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban would apply whether the person has a permit to carry a concealed weapon or not. One exception would be for privately owned businesses that put up signs saying people are allowed to bring guns on their premises. 

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Michel said under the law, gun permit holders "wouldn't be able to drive across town without passing through a prohibited area and breaking the law." He said the judge's decision makes Californians safer because criminals are deterred when law-abiding citizens can defend themselves.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/12208520 ... and%20zoos.

  The bad thing about California is like New York you have to jump through hoops to get the permit.
And you can't have any old pistol either. They have to be on the approved list. Plus they're limited to 10 rounds max.
 
 

actionjackson » 22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

Stupid is as .... 
Those who do not follow the law have guns .... so this idiot thinks people to believe in law having guns is bad .... 
stupid is as ... 
 

actionjackson » 22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:32 pm

Great more shootings. More killings. More murders by gun nuts.

Your chances of getting murdered by a pistol packin' Liberal  are much greater than by your typical law abiding Conservative "Gun Nut"


 

Huey » 22 Dec 2023, 5:45 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 5:45 pm

Why not stop by the 2A forum at the other place and get educated.

CCP holders as a group are the most law abiding among us.

Debunking the Myth of "Concealed-Carry Killers"

Moreover, concealed-carry permit holders are not “random people,” but individuals with the government’s affirmative approval to carry a concealed firearm in public places after having completed a series of steps required by the government.

AndAccording to the data, America’s 18 million concealed-carry permit holders accounted for 801 firearm-related homicides over a 15-year span, which amounts to roughly 0.7% of all firearm-related homicides during that time. That percentage drops even lower if any of the defendants in the 72 cases still pending in court are determined to have acted in lawful self-defense.

https://www.heritage.org/firearms/comme ... ry-killers

It will be overturned. 
 

If you carry concealed the key word is concealed.
Which means the gun is hidden and if you're doing it right nobody knows.
If nobody knows,carry your piece anywhere you want.
It's your right under the constitution and an inherent right to defend yourself and loved ones.
I'd rather be alive after defending myself with a gun in a place where I wasn't supposed to have it than dead because someone didn't think I should have it on me in the first place.
Mine goes with me everywhere. Even where it says it shouldn't.
IT'S CONCEALED!!!!

Squatchman » 22 Dec 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 10:41 pm

  The bad thing about California is like New York you have to jump through hoops to get the permit.
And you can't have any old pistol either. They have to be on the approved list. Plus they're limited to 10 rounds max.

yup.

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Dec 2023, 1:28 am » wrote: ↑

23 Dec 2023, 1:28 am

Your chances of getting murdered by a pistol packin' Liberal  are much greater than by your typical law abiding Conservative "Gun Nut"

Your "graph" doesn't say where that is.

NEILCAR » 23 Dec 2023, 1:12 am » wrote: ↑

23 Dec 2023, 1:12 am

Stupid is as .... 
Those who do not follow the law have guns .... so this idiot thinks people to believe in law having guns is bad .... 
stupid is as ...

Most people don't like to break the law, idiot.
 
 

Squatchman » 22 Dec 2023, 10:38 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 10:38 pm

You're an idiot.

Ooooo, what a burn!

 
 

MackTheFinger » 22 Dec 2023, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 6:31 pm

In Tennessee we have Constitutional carry but you must keep your firearm outa sight site...PERIOD unless you are about to use it for a good reason.   There are a few places where you can't carry it (GOV BLDs, Hospitals, etc) but most place you can.   A biz cannot stop you from legally carry'n it inside.

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That is awesome isn't it !
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But you gotta remember...ghetto rats and Appalachians never have permits anyhow.
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Why does someone need to carry in a hospital?  You gotta a beef with the doc??

actionjackson » 03 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm

Your "graph" doesn't say where that is.

The USA...Einstein


 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Jan 2024, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 3:47 pm

USA

Nothing to do with CA.

actionjackson » 03 Jan 2024, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jan 2024, 3:48 pm

Nothing to do with CA.

California is inside of the USA Einstein
 

Squatchman » 22 Dec 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Dec 2023, 10:41 pm

  The bad thing about California is like New York you have to jump through hoops to get the permit.
And you can't have any old pistol either. They have to be on the approved list. Plus they're limited to 10 rounds max.

If you are going to be limited to 10 rounds, you might as well carry a 1911 and a couple of extra magazines.