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What should MCWS (middle class wage slaves) tell their kids in 2024?
What should MCWS (middle class wage slaves) tell their kids in 2024?
By LowIQTrash
27 Dec 2023 11:04 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
28 Dec 2023 7:41 am
The original American concept of capitalism hasn't failed. It just has been corrupted last 10 generation gaps and nobody is willing to fix it because it is all previous generations opposing anyone that tries because they find themselves facing global humanity not wanting to understand the evolving specificity of life in plain sight.LowIQTrash » 27 Dec 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ @FOS plz join me in my entertainment reprieve…
I’ve been thinking…
If you were the head of a MCWS family (in the past it was the man…these days it could go “either way”), what line of employment would you tell your kids to get into?
I would perchance suggest being a nurse - yes, you have to wipe Boomers’ asses and whatnot…but apparently the demand is high enough even mediocre graduates can find jobs very quickly
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To draw a comparison, pretty much every white collar position requires 3+ rounds of 1 hr+ (each) interviews with the most insipid HR tyrants and inane questions by management to grill every little supposed weakness on your resume.
And keep in mind these “grill your *** sessions” are usually done by sub-125 trash, which means you have to stow your dignity for at least a while.
(Unless you are also sub-125 in which case it doesn’t matter)
OTOH I have heard of hospitals and AC centers + agencies hiring nurses after 1 round of a 20 min interview…because there is actually a legitimate demand / supply imbalance in favor of nurses.
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Anyhow, if you’re dead set on your KIDS getting a soul crushing job, you might as well persuade them to get one that doesn’t require 10+ months of searching in the 2020s+ labor market
Finale:
I always laugh and cackle at the thought of (((the CHOSEN ONES))) hoodwinking Americans into taking out $50K+ in debt so they can be a wage slave for corporate America…”muh dream job”…the vast majority of whose salaries won’t even keep up with inflation unless they get promoted every 2-3 years which is unlikely…
I hear job hopping every 3 yrs is the norm now but even that has its limits…
…and that all of this somehow represents “freedumb” :die:
Reasonable doubt corrupts honest soles of ancestry to believe in contextual souls and intellectual minds are immortal and humanity governs people through the promise of better tomorrows rather than genetics sustains current population left evolving forward one at a time now.
28 Dec 2023 7:49 am
LowIQTrash » 27 Dec 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ @FOS plz join me in my entertainment reprieve…
I’ve been thinking…
If you were the head of a MCWS family (in the past it was the man…these days it could go “either way”), what line of employment would you tell your kids to get into?
I would perchance suggest being a nurse - yes, you have to wipe Boomers’ asses and whatnot…but apparently the demand is high enough even mediocre graduates can find jobs very quickly
————————————————
To draw a comparison, pretty much every white collar position requires 3+ rounds of 1 hr+ (each) interviews with the most insipid HR tyrants and inane questions by management to grill every little supposed weakness on your resume.
And keep in mind these “grill your *** sessions” are usually done by sub-125 trash, which means you have to stow your dignity for at least a while.
(Unless you are also sub-125 in which case it doesn’t matter)
OTOH I have heard of hospitals and AC centers + agencies hiring nurses after 1 round of a 20 min interview…because there is actually a legitimate demand / supply imbalance in favor of nurses.
——————————————
Anyhow, if you’re dead set on your KIDS getting a soul crushing job, you might as well persuade them to get one that doesn’t require 10+ months of searching in the 2020s+ labor market
Finale:
I always laugh and cackle at the thought of (((the CHOSEN ONES))) hoodwinking Americans into taking out $50K+ in debt so they can be a wage slave for corporate America…”muh dream job”…the vast majority of whose salaries won’t even keep up with inflation unless they get promoted every 2-3 years which is unlikely…
I hear job hopping every 3 yrs is the norm now but even that has its limits…
…and that all of this somehow represents “freedumb”
If you're not an idiot, opportunity is everywhere...it always has been....they've just greatly increased the number of idiots since the Department of Education was created.
Freedom has been abused...mostly by those wanting to restrict your freedom in the name of some some **** fairness or diversity scam. Sometimes freedom involves a swift kick in the *** to make you appreciate what it really means
28 Dec 2023 7:57 am
Self-employed means you have people paying you.ROG62 » 27 Dec 2023, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Electrician, Plumber, Linemen...all great paying with the first two as great self employed opportunities....
Where did they get the money to do so? A job.
Why do they need you? Expertise, ALSO they don't have the time. (See previous)
My point is most people work a job for a wage. The world over...
Playing the I-can-strike-out-on-my-own game has its limits just like anything else.
The thread tries to ignore this simple fact.
However, I do agree that an over-priced education is just bad for society.
Especially a society that reveres and respects those "credentials" as proof the person is "smart".
I've worked with MANY degreed total morons. On paper, they are "smart", but as @LowIQTrash pointed out, a 20 minute face-to-face by a competent interviewer can sort that out. The degree has next to nothing to do with intellect, IQ, experience, good attitude, etc.
edit add:
Some job interviews require just excluding criminals, druggies, deranged assholes.
The interviewer themselves may need to be a former version of those types.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
28 Dec 2023 8:01 am
What decade was it America started converting to a global service industry rather than self sufficient industrial nation?Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑ Self-employed means you have people paying you.
Where did they get the money to do so? A job.
Why do they need you? Expertise, ALSO they don't have the time. (See previous)
My point is most people work a job for a wage. The world over...
Playing the I-can-strike-out-on-my-own game has its limits just like anything else.
The thread tries to ignore this simple fact.
However, I do agree that an over-priced education is just bad for society.
Especially a society that reveres and respects those "credentials" as proof the person is "smart".
I've worked with MANY degreed total morons. On paper, they are "smart", but as @LowIQTrash pointed out, a 20 minute face-to-face by a competent interviewer can sort that out. The degree has next to nothing to do with intellect, IQ, experience, good attitude, etc.
28 Dec 2023 8:03 am
You're LOW IQ and TRASH, so it's far over your capability to comprehend.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Dec 2023 8:04 am
Nostradamus'omh » 28 Dec 2023, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑ What decade was it America started converting to a global service industry rather than self sufficient industrial nation?
Why does it matter now if it was 1 or 7 decades ago?
We're here.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
28 Dec 2023 8:10 am
Simple compounding effects affect everyone alive conceived to dead as arriving one at a time genetics eternally separates each occupying time now in a body that is an ever changing form that doesn't create or destroy the evolving process, just everyone else in the process of evolving forward so far.Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑ Why does it matter now if it was 1 or 7 decades ago?
We're here.
Karma asshole.
28 Dec 2023 8:18 am
Personally, I think degrees are overrated for most of the working class...they've become so watered down that they're not worth the paper they're printed on...DeezerShoove » 28 Dec 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑ Self-employed means you have people paying you.
Where did they get the money to do so? A job.
Why do they need you? Expertise, ALSO they don't have the time. (See previous)
My point is most people work a job for a wage. The world over...
Playing the I-can-strike-out-on-my-own game has its limits just like anything else.
The thread tries to ignore this simple fact.
However, I do agree that an over-priced education is just bad for society.
Especially a society that reveres and respects those "credentials" as proof the person is "smart".
I've worked with MANY degreed total morons. On paper, they are "smart", but as @LowIQTrash pointed out, a 20 minute face-to-face by a competent interviewer can sort that out. The degree has next to nothing to do with intellect, IQ, experience, good attitude, etc.
edit add:
Some job interviews require just excluding criminals, druggies, deranged assholes.
The interviewer themselves may need to be a former version of those types.
my wife worked for the courts for 35-40 yrs without any college...she entered as a clerk and retired as a county court administrator...today they require a college degree to be the same clerk...
the trades has become a boon because no one wants to actually work or get their hands dirty...people can pretty much write their own ticket with some school and an apprenticeship...
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28 Dec 2023 8:56 am
ROG62 » 28 Dec 2023, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑ Personally, I think degrees are overrated for most of the working class...they've become so watered down that they're not worth the paper they're printed on...
my wife worked for the courts for 35-40 yrs without any college...she entered as a clerk and retired as a county court administrator...today they require a college degree to be the same clerk...
the trades has become a boon because no one wants to actually work or get their hands dirty...people can pretty much write their own ticket with some school and an apprenticeship...
If you can drive a truck, a 6 figure income is yours. To start.
Yes, even apprentice carpenters can earn over $60,000 a year and then MORE if they stick with it. Home Depot has a new training program out now that is totally free and encouraging young people to get into the trades. A HVAC technician can earn over $100 grand a year too.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Dec 2023 9:14 am
And driving a truck requires insurance for accidents and lawsuits. Requires fees and other costs. details are nothing unless part off the whole without exception by intellectual ideas saying actual life isn't self evident.Beekeeper » 28 Dec 2023, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑ If you can drive a truck, a 6 figure income is yours. To start.
Yes, even apprentice carpenters can earn over $60,000 a year and then MORE if they stick with it. Home Depot has a new training program out now that is totally free and encouraging young people to get into the trades. A HVAC technician can earn over $100 grand a year too.
Disproving a negative requires the idea nobody can prove actual existing works equally is a positive outcome tomorrow as living is a spontaneously here simultaneously situation each reproduction gets added into when conceived to replace previous ancestry that framed the ancestral lineages present by the numbers here now, each generation still alive.
28 Dec 2023 9:52 am
Nostradamus'omh » 28 Dec 2023, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑ And driving a truck requires insurance for accidents and lawsuits. Requires fees and other costs. details are nothing unless part off the whole without exception by intellectual ideas saying actual life isn't self evident.
Disproving a negative requires the idea nobody can prove actual existing works equally is a positive outcome tomorrow as living is a spontaneously here simultaneously situation each reproduction gets added into when conceived to replace previous ancestry that framed the ancestral lineages present by the numbers here now, each generation still alive.
None of that is costing the driver a red cent if he drives FOR a trucking company, which most drivers do. Even contract haulers that DO pay insurance, taxes, fuel, etc., charge accordingly and still are making 6 figures yearly.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Dec 2023 10:04 am
Depending on which Railroad you’re employed with and the position you holdLowIQTrash » 28 Dec 2023, 3:23 am » wrote: ↑ Railroad: pretty damn hard work, not much PTO
Postal: One of the lower compensated gubmint jobs
I have a friend doing HR and basic IT work for gubmint, he says his job is boring but not stressful
Trades is middle class if
1) union
2) you own your own practice
Home inspector: seems ok
Insurance / mortgage closers: this feels like something that can be automated in the next 10 yrs, similar to long haul trucking, so I wouldn't advise.
UPS and FedEx employees do fairly well
I know home inspectors doing quite well. 6 digit salaries. No college degree
Mortgage closings require an attorney, bank rep and title company rep. That will not change in ten years.
28 Dec 2023 10:18 am
Pay attention to what you say, it will be used against you for passing the buck. Price and cost. In reality it takes money to live socially. In evolving one only needs to adapt to the ever changing situation present or become dead.Beekeeper » 28 Dec 2023, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑ None of that is costing the driver a red cent if he drives FOR a trucking company, which most drivers do. Even contract haulers that DO pay insurance, taxes, fuel, etc., charge accordingly and still are making 6 figures yearly.
Evolving times the reproductions present apart now. That applies to the entire food chain native to this universal position specifically evolving as existing here as conversing on this website and including the actions and reactions of over 8 billion humans occupying time here now.
Your skin is your box. Your reality is pretending you aren't limited to adapting as displaced and you have freedom to believe real isn't actually just evolving as displaced forward one at a time in series parallel positions present.
My time is how many rotations, seasonal ****, revolutions around the star I existed so far since conceived. Intellectual relative time is made up by longitude, latitude, attitude, platitude, combined ancestral choices handed down every generation gap that did occupying time adapting as displaced so far.
Biggest point to make here, the consumer pays the cost added into buying what each individual needs to survive adapting as displaced. 1% governing 99% always led to believe life isn't self evident. Reasonable doubt rule by laws ordering compliance to persons owning intellectual property rights to typecast people dying to defend their stereotype social identity.
Power of suggestion corrupts everyone equally.
28 Dec 2023 10:33 am
Nostradamus'omh » 28 Dec 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑ Simple compounding effects affect everyone alive conceived to dead as arriving one at a time genetics eternally separates each occupying time now in a body that is an ever changing form that doesn't create or destroy the evolving process, just everyone else in the process of evolving forward so far.
Karma asshole.
I'd rather be a coherent asshole than whatever you seem to have become.
Stringing words together forming an actual message escapes your meager abilities.
Your poor family... Do you have a head injury too?
https://youtu.be/KSJMSqXMDHg?si=mtzojULNpIAon8mN
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
28 Dec 2023 10:54 am
When persons with a one track mantra accuse me of gibberish and nonsense while debating issues limited to two sides then keep everyone limited to never discussing things evolve simultaneously as specifically spontaneously here are just people denying life in plain sight because they cannot cope with the demands of self evidently alive.Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑ I'd rather be a coherent asshole than whatever you seem to have become.
Stringing words together forming an actual message escapes your meager abilities.
Your poor family... Do you have a head injury too?
https://youtu.be/KSJMSqXMDHg?si=mtzojULNpIAon8mN
28 Dec 2023 10:56 am
Nostradamus'omh » 28 Dec 2023, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑ When persons with a one track mantra accuse me of gibberish and nonsense while debating issues limited to two sides then keep everyone limited to never discussing things evolve simultaneously as specifically spontaneously here are just people denying life in plain sight because they cannot cope with the demands of self evidently alive.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Except for the stuff after "When..."
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
28 Dec 2023 11:05 am
I have known that after our first conversation. You compare ideas, perform in character trying to direct social consensus to one interpretation over all others.Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑ Exactly what I was thinking.
Except for the stuff after "When..."
It is the pyramid scheme of working 6 alternate realities governing 8 corners of triangulating ancestors against their own ancestries each generation forward.
Create debates on this scale https://i.postimg.cc/qqdZYSMd/Picture-219.jpg
while those in charge govern from this scale https://i.postimg.cc/ydBbJs7J/Picture-63.jpg
28 Dec 2023 11:16 am
Thank you. I wish you possessed the ability to do that as well.Nostradamus'omh » 28 Dec 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑ I have known that after our first conversation. You compare ideas...
Instead you post pictures of inane folded paper. This absolutely no connection to any topic I have ever seen on this site. Yet you do that ridiculous crap all the time.
You are afraid to stop hiding behind your favorite barrier: childish babbling.
I told you this long ago.
Making lil' cutouts are as effective as Barbie clothes.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
28 Dec 2023 11:29 am
Geometrical forms that separate event horizons that work in series parallel time. Those folded forms came from a flat sheet of paper.Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑ Thank you. I wish you possessed the ability to do that as well.
Instead you post pictures of inane folded paper. This absolutely no connection to any topic I have ever seen on this site. Yet you do that ridiculous crap all the time.
You are afraid to stop hiding behind your favorite barrier: childish babbling.
I told you this long ago.
Making lil' cutouts are as effective as Barbie clothes.
this form https://i.postimg.cc/ydBbJs7J/Picture-63.jpg holds six of this form https://i.postimg.cc/qqdZYSMd/Picture-219.jpg.
6 points from the 7th point of balancing between the 6 outside looking in. 8 corners of 3 sided positions. 2 parenting their own replacements of each child added or none at all, or worse yet parents outlived their grandchildren before dying themselves. 12 outside edges and 24 inside angles vertical parents to horizontal grandparents. 3 generation gaps of any ancestral lineage to life in this atmosphere past, current, next one added.
7th son of a 7th son is where time isolates each reproduction alive never same total sum results again living as eternally sorted into what does or doesn't happen again for everything simultaneously here, spontaneously individually now.
Accountability without speculating life is larger than numbers present.
28 Dec 2023 3:46 pm
There are 24 separate ideas working against each other within event horizons changing population left alive now.Deezer Shoove » 28 Dec 2023, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑ Thank you. I wish you possessed the ability to do that as well.
Instead you post pictures of inane folded paper. This absolutely no connection to any topic I have ever seen on this site. Yet you do that ridiculous crap all the time.
You are afraid to stop hiding behind your favorite barrier: childish babbling.
I told you this long ago.
Making lil' cutouts are as effective as Barbie clothes.
https://i.postimg.cc/3wtqVzgz/Picture-152.jpg 3 generation gaps included
I can change that to 48 and add two more generation gaps creating 5 vertical axses compared to one horizontal plane grandparent generation lives in space timed apart now.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwbFYs10/Picture-125.jpg.
Pink and blue sides represent males and females amounting to 16 great great grandparents leading into the arrival of 8 great grandparents, giving birth to the 4 grandparents 3 generation forward since inception of this species creating all the separate ancestral lineages here today.
Now horizontal plane is the level playing field of adapting in space when reproductively alive. which all draws into the center vertical poles of mom and dad conceiving each great great grandchild to replace all previous ancestry arrived since inception still living today by the numbers alive in this atmosphere.
I did this using thermodynamic principles, universal constants, life adapting to space occupying time here now. Anyone could have done this any generation since dawn of civilization, but everyone compromised their time away praying for a better day tomorrow than genetics sustains population here today.
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