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Goodgrief » 29 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm

That is false. fact check it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/20 ... r-beatings

Bidencrimefamily » 29 Dec 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:16 pm

https://youtu.be/1es9MZyyPOA?si=YQfkzWpuJdwKYf8d

I looked up two fact checkers that said it is not true.

I looked at the video. He did not say that.

Goodgrief » 29 Dec 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:29 pm

I looked at the video. He did not say that.

well you're just going to lie. 

Bidencrimefamily » 29 Dec 2023, 2:22 am » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 2:22 am

The Red State murder gap crossed the threshold of 40% in 2019, when murder rates in Trump states were 44% higher than Biden states, before receding slightly to 43% in 2020. Over the period studied, murder rates jumped 39.4% in Trump-voting states (6.35 murders/100,000 population in 2000 to 8.84/100,000 in 2020).Jan 27, 2023
https://www.thirdway.org › report
The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problem - Third Way
 
 

Get any election returns done in the last 50 years and do a county by county red vs blue voting. Rural is red and urban sprawl is blue and there is the real reason humanity fails in every social experiment of mind over matter governance serving figments of mankind's imagination life exceeds genetic separation of the numbers occupying time now.

Nostradamus'omh » 29 Dec 2023, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:41 pm

Get any election returns done in the last 50 years and do a county by county red vs blue voting. Rural is red and urban sprawl is blue and there is the real reason humanity fails in every social experiment of mind over matter governance serving figments of mankind's imagination life exceeds genetic separation of the numbers occupying time now.

There is no doubt that more human contact leads to higher amounts of crime. No doubt cities with high population have higher crime. That I can say for sure. 
 

Huey » 29 Dec 2023, 5:42 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 5:42 pm

You do realize that is democrat run urban areas that are driving those numbers?

Say it, Tiny...

You know you want to.


"******!"
 

Goodgrief » 29 Dec 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:24 pm

I looked up two fact checkers that said it is not true.

In the Old Days, Donald Trump hung out with a sodomite...and dressed like this


 

R.Suave » 29 Dec 2023, 8:38 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 8:38 pm

In the Old Days, Donald Trump hung out with a sodomite...and dressed like this

Why was he so woke?
 

Bidencrimefamily » 29 Dec 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 7:44 pm

There is no doubt that more human contact leads to higher amounts of crime. No doubt cities with high population have higher crime. That I can say for sure.

The dishonest tactic of trying to hide the  out of control Democrat Run  City  / County Crime  by relabeling it a "Red State" crime problem doesn't fool anyone here besides you and your fellow Libtards. All you are managing to do here is to give us more reasons to laugh at your stupidity.

"The Left’s claim that America has a “red state murder problem” is misleading and deflects from “progressive” soft-on-crime policies that have wreaked havoc.New analysis of crime data shows that high-crime counties are governed largely by Democrats, driving up the crime rates in their otherwise red states.

Lowering America’s rising crime rates requires that localities repudiate their pro-criminal, anti-victim policies that contribute to lawlessness in blue counties."
  
"Facts are powerful and stubborn things. Unfortunately, some on the Left have tried to advance their arguments by using facts about state murder rates that, while technically true, are at best meaningless when taken out of context and at worst misleading and downright dangerous when used as the basis for public policy decisions.

Enter the “Red State Murder Problem.” It sounds ominous, but it’s not. It is also highly misleading.Those on the Left know that their soft-on-crime policies have wreaked havoc in the cities where they have implemented those policies. It is not hard to understand why “reforms” such as ending cash bail, defunding the police, refusing to prosecute entire categories of crimes, letting thousands of convicted felons out of prison early, significantly cutting the prison population, and other “progressive” ideas have led to massive spikes in crime—particularly violent crime, including murder—in the communities where those on the Left have implemented them."
 
 

"Left-wing politicians and their backers recognize that rising crime rates and the lack of a general sense of safety that follows are a problem for them and their chances for reelection. In fact, recent polls show that voters care a lot about rising crime—an issue that is second only to rising, rampant inflation and the lackluster economy. So the Left is engaging in political traditions as old as time: obfuscation, finger pointing, and blame shifting.

One liberal organization—The Third Way—even went so far as to publish a “study” arguing that Republicans are actually to blame for the spike in murders across the country. The not-so-subtle suggestion the study pushes is that those on the Left are not responsible for rising crime rates because crime is rising everywhere—especially in Republican-led states. Fighting for their political survival, Left-wing politicians such as Gavin Newsom and Larry Krasner have recently started to parrot the “results” of this study."

"But crime tends to be a hyper-localized phenomenon. State-level data are generally meaningless—except as a tool with which to score political points. More to the point, when the crime statistics from the deep-blue big cities within these otherwise deep-red states are removed, what happens? The state-level crime rates fall—in some cases, dramatically.

Crime Trends
Until recently, crime, including violent crime, has been declining across the United States since the peak of the last crime wave in 1992.2
See William P. Barr, “Rising Crime Rates Are a Policy Choice,” The Wall Street Journal, October 26, 2022, https://www.wsj.com/articles/safe-stree ... 1666785403 (accessed November 2, 222).

Not surprisingly, since incarceration trails crime waves, incarceration rates have also been falling dramatically since they last peaked in 2008."

"Unfortunately, however, the 25-plus year drop in crime since 1992 has ended for many cities across the United States. The rise in crime, especially violent crime, started taking place around 2015 after the confluence of a series of events that took place over the course of a few years.

Those events include police-involved shootings of black community members,4
The Washington Post has a comprehensive database of every fatal shooting by an on-duty police officer in the United States since January 1, 2015. Since its inception, there have been more than 5,000 such shootings (as of October 18, 2022), including 1,695 blacks, 1,135 Hispanics, 3,204 whites, and 259 others. That represents 41 blacks per million, 29 Hispanics per million, 16 whites per million, and five per million for others. Over 95 percent of people shot and killed are males, more than 50 percent of whom were between 20 and 40 years old. See The Washington Post, “Fatal Force,” https://​www.washingtonpost.com/graphic ... -database/ (accessed November 2, 2022). Some of the names of those shot and killed by the police have been household names and rallying cries in the so-called social justice movement in the United States, which started in earnest in 2014 after the death of Eric Garner in July 2014. Subjected to a choke hold by NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo, Garner said “I can’t breathe” numerous times and later died. His death was classified as a homicide, but the officer was not indicted, and an uproar followed across the country. A month later, in Ferguson, Missouri, Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown after Brown had resisted arrest, fled, and then attacked Officer Wilson. Wilson was not charged. After 2014, other blacks shot by police that rose to national attention and fueled racial strife and unrest across the country included Freddie Gray in Baltimore in 2015; Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky, in 2020; and George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota, also in 2020.

the defund the police movement,5
Democratic mayors, city council members, state legislators, and Democratic Members of Congress have all called for defunding the police in recent years. The Republican Study Committee has compiled a list of Members of Congress who have called for defunding the police. See Republican Study Committee, “Looking Back: Democrats Push to Defund the Police,” https://rsc-banks.house.gov/democrats-p ... und-police (accessed November 2, 2022). Eventually, calls to defund the police backfired on the Democrats as it became clear that cutting the size of police departments, especially in high-crime areas, only harmed the residents of those cities and caused voters, including Democrats, to feel unsafe in their own cities. No doubt realizing that calling for defunding the police was an albatross around the Democratic Party’s neck, President Joe Biden, during his March 2022 State of the Union Address to the nation, said, “We should all agree: The answer is not to defund the police. The answer is to FUND the police with the resources and training they need to protect our communities.” See “Remarks of President Joe Biden—State of the Union Address as Prepared for Delivery,” The White House, March 1, 2022, https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... delivered/ (accessed November 2, 2022). Emphasis in original. Despite the President’s rhetoric and attempt at damage control, the fact is that defunding of police department budgets and repeated calls to defund the police have become a political liability going into the 2022 midterm elections.

the election of rogue prosecutors funded or inspired by George Soros and other elitist billionaires,"
 
 

Huey » 29 Dec 2023, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 6:13 pm

Yup.

must be red state policy. 

Bidencrimefamily » 29 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm

must be red state policy.

 


 

Warcok » 29 Dec 2023, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 5:41 pm

YOU GOT HIM NOW!!!1!

why Is red states so voilent. I guess I know now why they hig their guns. Crime all over the place. 

Bidencrimefamily » 29 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 8:49 pm

must be red state policy.

Nice try.  Find your lost intellectual curiosity, Vegas Giants, and do some research.

R.Suave » 29 Dec 2023, 8:35 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 8:35 pm

Say it, Tiny...

You know you want to.

"******!"

Waasn't even on my mind.  Last I checked you chose to live in one of the whitest states in the republic, which is also one of the top 5 gun friendly states in the republic, and is notable for it"s militia groups.

Coincidence Stalker?  I think not.  You hate black people and prefer in to live in a majority white state.  Over 95% white.

Huey » 29 Dec 2023, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 9:03 pm

Nice try.  Find your lost intellectual curiosity, Vegas Giants, and do some research.

I did my research. Vegas giants might of been a lite weight. But I've diffently did the research. 

Huey » 29 Dec 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2023, 9:06 pm

Waasn't even on my mind.  Last I checked you chose to live in one of the whitest states in the republic, which is also one of the top 5 gun friendly states in the republic, and is notable for it"s militia groups.

Coincidence Stalker?  I think not.  You hate black people and prefer in to live in a majority white state.  Over 95% white.

Why did Texas have only 100 less murders than California even though California has 9 million more residents?