Hey Libtards. About this whole omitting Trump from the ballot thing...

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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 7:54 am » wrote: It's not an "opinion"....it is the judgement of a Colorado court, upheld by its Supreme Court.

There's good reason why Sec. 3 doesn't require Conviction.

Furthermore, Wee Donnie is a piece of ****, getting what he deserves.
So you can show us a TRANSCRPT where Trump had an OPPORTUNITY to face his accusers, right??

NO??? Then it was an OPINIONI of the Colorado courts, not a REAL TRIAL where REAL EVIDENCE is presented and REAL CROSS EXAMINATION occurred OF those accusers. See, ****, it was STILL an OPINION and one that is FAR MORE LIKELY to be completely obliterated by the US SCOTUS in short order!!

And that's going to SUCK MASSIVELY for YOU when that RULING STATES PLAINLY, there has been NO EVIDENCE OF, nor CONVICTION OF any "insurrection" by the President!!

Sounds like YOU ARE A SCARED ****** and won't put your MONEY where that MOUTH OF YOURS IS!!! So, what's your WAGER, ****???
 
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 7:59 am » wrote: So you can show us a TRANSCRPT where Trump had an OPPORTUNITY to face his accusers, right??

NO??? Then it was an OPINIONI of the Colorado courts, not a REAL TRIAL where REAL EVIDENCE is presented and REAL CROSS EXAMINATION occurred OF those accusers. See, ****, it was STILL an OPINION and one that is FAR MORE LIKELY to be completely obliterated bu the US SCOTUS in short order!!

And that's going to SUCK MASSIVELY for YOU when that RULING STATES PLAINLY, there has been NO EVIDENCE OF, nor CONVICTION OF any "insurrection" by the President!!

Sounds like YOU ARE A SCARED ****** and won't put your MONEY where that MOUTH OF YOURS IS!!! So, what's your WAGER, ****???
Anderson v. Griswold.


**** homocretin
 
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:02 am » wrote: Anderson v. Griswold.

**** homocretin

CIVIL case, with OPPOSING OPINIONS, ****!!!

The DISTRICT COURT found that the 14th DID NOT APPLY to the President, ASSWIPE!!!

Now go suck your MOOSLIME COCK and SHUT THE **** UP!! It's WHY there is going to be a COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THE CO SUPREME COURT you **** ASSHOLE LICKER!!
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:20 am » wrote: CIVIL case, with OPPOSING OPINIONS, ****!!!

The DISTRICT COURT found that the 14th DID NOT APPLY to the President, ASSWIPE!!!

Now go suck your MOOSLIME COCK and SHUT THE **** UP!! It's WHY there is going to be a COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THE CO SUPREME COURT you **** ASSHOLE LICKER!!
CIVIL case, with OPPOSING OPINIONS, ****!!!
Because a petitioner SUES to disqualify a candidate, you **** idiot.
The DISTRICT COURT found that the 14th DID NOT APPLY to the President, ASSWIPE!!!
and the Colorado Supreme Court concluded that it does.

Now, you need to stop here for a minute and savor the flavor of that.

 
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:28 am » wrote: Because a petitioner SUES to disqualify a candidate, you **** idiot.

and the Colorado Supreme Court concluded that it does.

Now, you need to stop here for a minute and savor the flavor of that.

It's STILL a CIVIL CASE, IDIOT ASSWIPER!!! And the burden of proof is an OPINION, not reached by a BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT IN THE EVIDENCE!!

When you have the FBI stating that there was NO INSURRECTION on Jan 6th, you have NO INSURRECTION ON JAN 6th, ASSHOLE!!
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ConsRule » 02 Jan 2024, 4:13 pm » wrote:
R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:47 pm » wrote: You're a lying coward.

What a piece of **** you are.
Does that mean you are willing to have a conversation, primarily limited to your own thoughts unless stating something that is fact based...i.e. "It is a federal crime to..." or "The Constitution says..."?  We can rely on what we have heard from "experts" or "talking heads" in the media (regardless of format), but it must be your thoughts or a summation of opinions from various "experts" or "talking heads".  If so, I'm game.  However, the first time you don't give a direct answer to a question, you are conceding defeat.

Those are the ground rules.  Accept?
 

 
 
ConsRule » 03 Jan 2024, 7:17 am » wrote:
R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 9:42 pm » wrote: What "right" are you referring to?
There is an open question to you from me.  Once you answer that question, I'll get back to you.

Play by my rules or don't play.

 
 
ConsRule » 03 Jan 2024, 7:23 am » wrote:
R.Suave » 03 Jan 2024, 7:21 am » wrote: You don't play by your rules, **** coward.

There's no way I'm in your debt.

Run.
Go back through the thread (your mommy can show you how).  You will see I have answered questions quickly and directly.  You, not so much.  The choice is yours...if you want to have a discussion with me, you will answer questions...period...full stop.
 

 
 
ConsRule » 05 Jan 2024, 8:27 am » wrote:
R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 7:58 am » wrote: Post the rule on answering questions, Hole.
Most people just consider it a normal occurrence when adults are having a conversation.

 
Pathological.
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:28 am » wrote: Because a petitioner SUES to disqualify a candidate, you **** idiot.

and the Colorado Supreme Court concluded that it does.

Now, you need to stop here for a minute and savor the flavor of that.
Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources | Reuters

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:31 am » wrote: It's STILL a CIVIL CASE, IDIOT ASSWIPER!!! And the burden of proof is an OPINION, not reached by a BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT IN THE EVIDENCE!!

When you have the FBI stating that there was NO INSURRECTION on Jan 6th, you have NO INSURRECTION ON JAN 6th, ASSHOLE!!
BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT IN THE EVIDENCE!!
beyond a REASONABLE doubt, you **** idiot...

But not required under Sec 3 of the 14th Amendment.

Savor that.
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:32 am » wrote: Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources | Reuters

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."
Grifty must have the **** lawyers on the planet.

Or what you are waving is irrelevant.

Take your pick.
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:33 am » wrote: beyond a REASONABLE doubt, you **** idiot...

But not required under Sec 3 of the 14th Amendment.

Savor that.
What is the difference between a revolt and an insurrection?
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An insurrection is an armed rebellion. A revolt is a rebellion with an aim to replace a government, authority figure, law, or policy. If a government does not recognize rebels as belligerents then they are insurgents and the revolt is an insurgency.
So where is the ARMED REBELLION that happened, ****??? Or are you NOW going to REDEFINE "arms" to mean sticks, flagpoles, and anything ELSE you think will help you "win" the argument YOU ALREADY LOST, ****???
 
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: So where is the ARMED REBELLION that happened, ****??? Or are you NOW going to REDEFINE "arms" to mean sticks, flagpoles, and anything ELSE you think will help you "win" the argument YOU ALREADY LOST, ****???
The Colorado Supreme Court does not rely on memes.
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:35 am » wrote: Grifty must have the **** lawyers on the planet.

Or what you are waving is irrelevant.

Take your pick.

You're a **** CUCKED IDIOT!!!

So if the COLORADO SUPREME COURT was so damn confident in their OPINION, why did they STAY THEIR OWN FINDINGS AND ORDER until the US SCOTUS weighed in??

Now, ****, you have a REAL PROBLEM and one you are totally KICKED IN THE NUTSACK to try and explain!!!
he first impact of the appeal is to extend the stay of the 4-3 ruling from Colorado's highest court, which put its decision on pause until Jan. 4, the day before the state's primary ballots are due at the printer, or until an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court is finished. Trump himself has said he still plans to appeal the ruling to the nation's highest court as well.

 Colorado's Secretary of State Jena Griswold said Thursday that, with the appeal filed, Trump will be included as a candidate on the state's primary ballot unless the U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear the case or upholds the state supreme court's ruling.

 The U.S. Supreme Court has never ruled on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which was added after the Civil War to prevent former Confederates from returning to government. It says that anyone who swore an oath to "support" the constitution and then "engaged in insurrection" against it cannot hold government office.


Trump back on ballot in Colorado while state Republicans appeal ban to Supreme Court - CBS News
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Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:46 am » wrote: You're a **** CUCKED IDIOT!!!

So if the COLORADO SUPREME COURT was so damn confident in their OPINION, why did they STAY THEIR OWN FINDINGS AND ORDER until the US SCOTUS weighed in??

Now, ****, you have a REAL PROBLEM and one you are totally KICKED IN THE NUTSACK to try and explain!!!

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They stayed it pending appeal.


Given that you don't know anything worth sharing, maybe you should staple your flaps shut now.
 
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:39 am » wrote: The Colorado Supreme Court does not rely on memes.

Never gave them one ****!!!
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The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:50 am » wrote: They stayed it pending appeal.

Given that you don't know anything worth sharing, maybe you should staple your flaps shut now.
Here's one for you ASSHOLE!!!

The US SCOTUS has RULED IN PAST RULINGS that the STATES do NOT have any authority to determine QUALIFICATIONS to be a Candidate for Federal offices. ONLY the US Constitution and CONGRESS can make those determinations. IE- attempts by the States to impose term limits, added qualifications for Congress, etc. Ergo, the STATES have NO AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE if the 14th Amendment can be used to disqualify ANYONE running for Federal offices from the STATE'S BALLOT!! By doing so, they are determining QUALIFICATIONS based on OPINION, not a FEDERAL RULING that says it applies.

Sucks for you, huh, ASSHOLE!!

Now, gumflapper, SHUT THE **** UP!!
 
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The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 8:50 am » wrote: They stayed it pending appeal.

Given that you don't know anything worth sharing, maybe you should staple your flaps shut now.

RUN CUCKED ASSHOLE, RUN!!!

I've shot down 100% of your FLAPPING GUM **** and this is what you are left with???

YOUR DEFEAT AND SURRENDER IS ACCEPTED!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 8:51 am » wrote: Never gave them one ****!!!
You can read what they DID rely on....in the decision
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Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2024, 9:01 am » wrote: RUN CUCKED ASSHOLE, RUN!!!

I've shot down 100% of your FLAPPING GUM **** and this is what you are left with???

YOUR DEFEAT AND SURRENDER IS ACCEPTED!!
You haven't done a damned thing except to be wrong.
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Vegas » 04 Jan 2024, 9:28 pm » wrote: Pence had a choice to speak up, he didn't. I don't see how this can be considered evidence of inciting an insurrection. I don't see it. He had posted on Twitter for the rioters to stop and to march peacefully. Twitter took that post down. It was presented as evidence. 

None of the accusations add up.
They are still on twitter 

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1346912780700577792?s=21&t=CIiH0ZcnefaCWPd3wzaG7g

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1346904110969315332?s=21&t=CIiH0ZcnefaCWPd3wzaG7g

 
 
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R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 9:20 am » wrote: You can read what they DID rely on....in the decision

Seeing how the 14th Amendment gives ONLY CONGRESS the ability to make that determination, you lose AGAIN, ASSKISS!!!

Now go suck your boyfriends COCK and SHUT THE **** UP. YOU LOSE!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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