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• "Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957. It is now the model of urban failure -- it’s recognized more for its poverty, crime, rot and bankruptcy than the great cars that it turned out into the early 1970s. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with almost 40% of the population living below the poverty line. The website Law Street actually ranks Detroit ahead of Flint as the country's most dangerous city. Either way, it’s clear that both cities have institutionalized crime problems.

Detroit is also a pit of political corruption. Just in recent years, one mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, was convicted of corruption and sent to federal prison for 28 years, while building inspectors have been indicted on federal felony bribery charges and a former city council member was investigated in a bribery and kickback scandal.

• Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927. The nation’s third-largest city is home to some of the worst inner-city violence imaginable. More than 2,300 people were shot there last year, and nearly 400 lost their lives to homicides.

Its finances are just as grim. "Chicago is so broke," IBD contributor Stephen Moore explained months ago, "that its bonds are junk status, and Mayor Rahm Emanuel had to go hat in hand last week to the state capital, Springfield, for bailout money to pay the bills." Things have been rotten enough, Moore said, to send "a record number of people ... fleeing Cook County, home to Chicago." Only a little more than half of the city's pension liabilities are funded.

• St. Louis has been electing Democratic mayors since 1949. The Gateway to the West has become the gateway for crime. Law Street says that it’s the fourth most dangerous city in the country, Forbes says it’s the second. It had the sixth-highest poverty rate among big cities in 2014.
• The last GOP mayor of Philadelphia left office in 1952. A few years ago, Moore identified it as a favorite to follow Detroit into bankruptcy.
• Both Baltimore and Oakland had Republican mayors as late as the 1960s. In the era of Democratic rule, both are now more well known for their crime and poverty problems than for their charm and character.
• Newark, N.J., hasn't had a GOP mayor in more than a century. It was ranked as the fifth-worst city to live in in 2015. Detroit, of course, was first.

When Democrats are in control, cities tend to go soft on crime, reward cronies with public funds, establish hostile business environments, heavily tax the most productive citizens and set up fat pensions for their union friends. Simply put, theirs is a Blue State blueprint for disaster."

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... st-cities/
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Jan 2024, 11:20 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 11:20 pm

• "Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957. It is now the model of urban failure -- it’s recognized more for its poverty, crime, rot and bankruptcy than the great cars that it turned out into the early 1970s. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with almost 40% of the population living below the poverty line. The website Law Street actually ranks Detroit ahead of Flint as the country's most dangerous city. Either way, it’s clear that both cities have institutionalized crime problems.

Detroit is also a pit of political corruption. Just in recent years, one mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, was convicted of corruption and sent to federal prison for 28 years, while building inspectors have been indicted on federal felony bribery charges and a former city council member was investigated in a bribery and kickback scandal.

• Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927. The nation’s third-largest city is home to some of the worst inner-city violence imaginable. More than 2,300 people were shot there last year, and nearly 400 lost their lives to homicides.

Its finances are just as grim. "Chicago is so broke," IBD contributor Stephen Moore explained months ago, "that its bonds are junk status, and Mayor Rahm Emanuel had to go hat in hand last week to the state capital, Springfield, for bailout money to pay the bills." Things have been rotten enough, Moore said, to send "a record number of people ... fleeing Cook County, home to Chicago." Only a little more than half of the city's pension liabilities are funded.

• St. Louis has been electing Democratic mayors since 1949. The Gateway to the West has become the gateway for crime. Law Street says that it’s the fourth most dangerous city in the country, Forbes says it’s the second. It had the sixth-highest poverty rate among big cities in 2014.
• The last GOP mayor of Philadelphia left office in 1952. A few years ago, Moore identified it as a favorite to follow Detroit into bankruptcy.
• Both Baltimore and Oakland had Republican mayors as late as the 1960s. In the era of Democratic rule, both are now more well known for their crime and poverty problems than for their charm and character.
• Newark, N.J., hasn't had a GOP mayor in more than a century. It was ranked as the fifth-worst city to live in in 2015. Detroit, of course, was first.

When Democrats are in control, cities tend to go soft on crime, reward cronies with public funds, establish hostile business environments, heavily tax the most productive citizens and set up fat pensions for their union friends. Simply put, theirs is a Blue State blueprint for disaster."

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... st-cities/

Great post...

In the late 70's, a colleague of my stepfather was moving to Oklahoma from MN in a wagon with wife and kids pulling a speedboat. They needed fuel and pulled off the freeway into East St Louis. They didn't even get off the exit ramp when he was pulled over by a state trooper who asked them where they were headed. He said they need fuel and the trooper told them to keep going as it was too dangerous. He told the trooper he didn't think he could make it to the next exit, so the trooper followed them to the station, stood guard while filling, then escorted them back out to the freeway...
 

ROG62 » 02 Jan 2024, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 6:39 am

Great post...

In the late 70's, a colleague of my stepfather was moving to Oklahoma from MN in a wagon with wife and kids pulling a speedboat. They needed fuel and pulled off the freeway into East St Louis. They didn't even get off the exit ramp when he was pulled over by a state trooper who asked them where they were headed. He said they need fuel and the trooper told them to keep going as it was too dangerous. He told the trooper he didn't think he could make it to the next exit, so the trooper followed them to the station, stood guard while filling, then escorted them back out to the freeway...

There's areas within our sub human standard Democrat Run Urban Congos where the Police and Firemen have been shot at by Sniper Monkeys.
As a result there are many times when the Cops are slow to respond. They can easily claim that they have reduced staff and not enough officers to go around.
Many crimes among the Murder Monkey Tribes go unreported.
Only some clueless ****** Bitch with zero street smarts like BCF will deny that this is so.
There's a good reason why these parts of DEMOCRAT RUN USA look and function just like Africa....I wonder if BCF is honest enough to admit [to just himself] why that is...?

Z09 » 02 Jan 2024, 7:17 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 7:17 am

I think you've been exposed....
The stats are seriously flawed...
You're comparing results from 600,000 to 3 million?

Must be easy to convince a liberal ...

He should drop the crime rate argument and concentrate on affordable housing.....
you can buy a 3BR house for $600.00 in Detroit.
 

Michigan passed a few gun safety laws in 2022
Seems to be working.

GHETTOBLASTER » 02 Jan 2024, 6:57 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 6:57 am

There's areas within our sub human standard Democrat Run Urban Congos where the Police and Firemen have been shot at by Sniper Monkeys.
As a result there are many times when the Cops are slow to respond. They can easily claim that they have reduced staff and not enough officers to go around.
Many crimes among the Murder Monkey Tribes go unreported.
Only some clueless ****** Bitch with zero street smarts like BCF will deny that this is so.
There's a good reason why these parts of DEMOCRAT RUN USA look and function just like Africa....I wonder if BCF is honest enough to admit [to just himself] why that is...?

      Honestly,
you have a higher likelihood of survival strolling through Gaza wearing a Yarmulke and a **** Hamas t-shirt, than walking the streets of any Democrat controlled inner city with anything less than a Marine Rifle Platoon escort..... 

Kobia2 » 01 Jan 2024, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 8:55 pm

        1.   The population of Detroit in 1966 was 3,208,000.   The Population of Detroit today is 621,000.
        2.   The Homicide Rate in Detroit in 1966 was 12.8 per 100,000 persons.
        3.   The Homicide Rate in Detroit in 2023 was 39.4 per 100,000 persons.
        4.    THe Homicide Rate is higher today than in 1966... The only reason the total number of murders is lower is because there are 1.8 million less                      people living in Detroit now than in 1966....      
        5.    Detroit Ranks 4th in highest Homicide Rate of American Cities (behind St. Louis, Baltimore and New Orleans)
        6.    If you're wondering what that swirling water sound is --- it's whatever point or argument you were attempting to make going down the toilet. 

Don't mix metro Detroit with City of Detroit.
Websites do that dumb **** all the time.
City of Detroit was at about 1.8 Million in the 50's.
The peak.
The area surrounding Detroit has been relatively stable by comparison.
Millions.

Coleman Young's last ditch attempt to secure federal funding status was to scrape every bum out of a dumpster in the 1990 census to achieve a million "residents". Ironic how a dumpster digger was a "resident" then and now is a noble "homeless".
Official numbers belie the actual dubious count.


 

Bidencrimefamily » 01 Jan 2024, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 7:44 pm

Violent crime down to 1966 levels Also.

Are you retarded? That would be impressive, if not for the artifice of simply ignoring crimes - you dip ****.
 
ANYONE can lower crime rates by legalizing crime, you *** tasting gump.

Kobia2 » 02 Jan 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 8:36 am

      Honestly,
you have a higher likelihood of survival strolling through Gaza wearing a Yarmulke and a **** Hamas t-shirt, than walking the streets of any Democrat controlled inner city with anything less than a Marine Rifle Platoon escort..... 

It's easy to see that Bidencrimefamily was raised indoors his entire childhood...the way he was insisting that each and every murder / violent crime in Africa USA gets reported and solved because the cops have body cameras. now..!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/23/us/black ... index.html
There are thousands of unsolved cases of missing Black people. Carlee Russell’s unverified report is rare, advocates say
By Nicquel Terry Ellis, CNN


 
 

Kobia2 » 02 Jan 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 8:36 am

      Honestly,
you have a higher likelihood of survival strolling through Gaza wearing a Yarmulke and a **** Hamas t-shirt, than walking the streets of any Democrat controlled inner city with anything less than a Marine Rifle Platoon escort..... 

It's good to see you coming around to how innocent the Palestinians are. 

Can we get a **** ISRAEL?
 

This is encouraging news but it leaves out a lot of context. First, Detroit has lost population so less murders is likely. Second, Biden has zero to do with this.

Huey » 01 Jan 2024, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Jan 2024, 5:13 pm

THat is wonderful.  That means MORE legal gun owners does not equate to higher violent crimes rates!  Thanks for the great news.

But it DOES equate to considerably higher rates of firearms related homicides and suicides.

Oddly enough.

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:08 pm

But it DOES equate to considerably higher rates of firearms related homicides and suicides.

Oddly enough.
 

Don't care about suicides.  

You will have to provide a link that more LEGAL gun owners equates to higher rates of firearms homicides in Detroit.  The area  under discussion.  And since you provided no links, and the links on the other thread show gun murders are down over 2022, I don't need a link to tell you that non fatal shooting were down 13% in detroit over last year.

Can't find anything yet on murders with guns. 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:16 pm

Don't care about suicides.  

You will have to provide a link that more LEGAL gun owners equates to higher rates of firearms homicides in Detroit.  The area  under discussion.  And since you provided no links, and the links on the other thread show gun murders are down over 2022, I don't need a link to tell you that non fatal shooting were down 13% in detroit over last year.

Can't find anything yet on murders with guns.

You should....cause it isn't only the ammosexual doing everyone a favor.

Don't care about your uninformed prattle.
 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm

You should....cause it isn't only the ammosexual doing everyone a favor.

Don't care about your uninformed prattle.
 

 

No, you are really talking about CNN's uniformed prattle because that's where the information is from.  
Repost
ANd more

:After years of increases, the rate of firearm-related homicides in the United States decreased in 2022, according to data published Thursday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.This is the first time the national firearm homicide rate has fallen since a sharp increase was recorded from 2019 to 2020, amid the Covid-19 pandemic, according to the CDC.Between 2019 and 2020, the overall firearm homicide rate increased by about 35%, from 4.4 deaths per 100,000 people nationwide in 2019 to 5.8 in 2020. That rate was the highest it had been relative to the previous 20 years, only to increase again in 2021 to 6.3 deaths per 100,000 people.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/20/health/f ... index.html

From your primary source.  You may go now.   You an strike thru all you want and call CNN uniformed prattle but the facts remain the same.  

Run along, Gunophobe. 

 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:24 pm

No, you are really talking about CNN's uniformed prattle because that's where the information is from.  
Repost
ANd more

:After years of increases, the rate of firearm-related homicides in the United States decreased in 2022, according to data published Thursday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.This is the first time the national firearm homicide rate has fallen since a sharp increase was recorded from 2019 to 2020, amid the Covid-19 pandemic, according to the CDC.Between 2019 and 2020, the overall firearm homicide rate increased by about 35%, from 4.4 deaths per 100,000 people nationwide in 2019 to 5.8 in 2020. That rate was the highest it had been relative to the previous 20 years, only to increase again in 2021 to 6.3 deaths per 100,000 people.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/20/health/f ... index.html

From your primary source.  You may go now.   You an strike thru all you want and call CNN uniformed prattle but the facts remain the same.  

Run along, Gunophobe.

What has happened to firearms related homicide rates since 2019?

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:26 pm

What has happened to firearms related homicide rates since 2019?

 

If you had read the citation I posted instead of lining it out you would have the knowledge you seek.  Now go read it.  I already posted it. 

And you are STILL missing the key word.  Your task is to show that LEGAL gun owners are behind the increase you alluding to, Dum Dum. 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:29 pm

If you had read the citation I posted instead of lining it out you would have the knowledge you seek.  Now go read it.  I already posted it. 

And you are STILL missing the key word.  Your task is to show that LEGAL gun owners are behind the increase you alluding to, Dum Dum.

Tiny B takes YET ANOTHER runner..

Surprise
 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm

Tiny B takes YET ANOTHER runner..

Surprise

Actually, as I said, I already answered the question you asked.  It is in the citation you refuse to read.

impartialobserver » 02 Jan 2024, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 11:34 am

This is encouraging news but it leaves out a lot of context. First, Detroit has lost population so less murders is likely. Second, Biden has zero to do with this.

Well.......if a President endorsed a constructive and productive economic policy [like kicking out millions of Illegal Aliens in our skilled labor force]...then that might make a dent in the crime that's directly connected to poverty.....  
That's how a President could be given some credit for a crime decrease.
Handing everyone $1400 and then presiding over massive inflation afterwards failed to work.