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Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:21 pm

You can tell me.

Again?


 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:12 pm

Why the number of guns but "up" & "down" on the consequences?

NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!

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R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:32 pm

Again?

NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!

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R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:32 pm

Again?

Yup.  I told ya, you can make your points.

My stance has been the same since your progressive buddies started to celebrate the drop in violent crime.  That is great but it also shows that the increase in LEGAL firearm purchases does not necessarily equate to higher violent crime stats. 

 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:37 pm

Yup.  I told ya, you can make your points.

My stance has been the same since your progressive buddies started to celebrate the drop in violent crime.  That is great but it also shows that the increase in LEGAL firearm purchases does not necessarily equate to higher violent crime stats.

Name the idiot linking gun sales to violent crime - in general.

No one is doing so.....proponents of the immediate retroactive abortion of ammosexuals argue that an increase in private gun ownership is correlated with an increase of - NOW PAY ATTENTION HERE, YA **** SOCK FULL OF **** - firearms related homicides, suicides and injuries.

Nod.

 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:44 pm

Name the idiot linking gun sales to violent crime - in general.

No one is doing so.....proponents of the immediate retroactive abortion of ammosexuals argue that an increase in private gun ownership is correlated with an increase of - NOW PAY ATTENTION HERE, YA **** SOCK FULL OF **** - firearms related homicides, suicides and injuries.

Nod.

In a scholarly review of the relationship between gun prevalence and homicide almost 20 years ago, Harvard researchers concluded that available evidence supports the hypothesis that greater numbers of guns corresponds to higher rates of homicide.

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... 20homicide.

Increases in gun ownership lead to a higher gun-homicide rate and legislation allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons does not reduce crime, according to a recent NBER Working Paper by Mark Duggan. After peaking in 1993, gun homicides in the United States dropped 36 percent by 1998, while non-gun homicides declined only 18 percent. In that same period, the fraction of households with at least one gun fell from more than 42 percent to less than 35 percent. Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership. The largest declines occur in areas with the largest reductions in firearm ownership.

https://www.nber.org/digest/feb01/fewer ... -homicides

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ke/621196/

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... n-america/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/322833

Nod.

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm

In a scholarly review of the relationship between gun prevalence and homicide almost 20 years ago, Harvard researchers concluded that available evidence supports the hypothesis that greater numbers of guns corresponds to higher rates of homicide.

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... 20homicide.

Increases in gun ownership lead to a higher gun-homicide rate and legislation allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons does not reduce crime, according to a recent NBER Working Paper by Mark Duggan. After peaking in 1993, gun homicides in the United States dropped 36 percent by 1998, while non-gun homicides declined only 18 percent. In that same period, the fraction of households with at least one gun fell from more than 42 percent to less than 35 percent. Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership. The largest declines occur in areas with the largest reductions in firearm ownership.

https://www.nber.org/digest/feb01/fewer ... -homicides

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ke/621196/

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... n-america/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/322833

Nod.

The first pisses down your neck for the very reasons I told you...

Which is why you crossed out BOTH suicides and injuries.

**** idiot.

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:06 pm

The first pisses down your neck for the very reasons I told you...

Which is why you crossed out BOTH suicides and injuries.

**** idiot.

 

This is about violent crime and murder.  You do this every time.  Concede the original discussion and MAYBE I will pay attention to your reframe.  
 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm

In a scholarly review of the relationship between gun prevalence and homicide almost 20 years ago, Harvard researchers concluded that available evidence supports the hypothesis that greater numbers of guns corresponds to higher rates of homicide.

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... 20homicide.

Increases in gun ownership lead to a 
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/322833

Nod.

First, having a gun in the home increases the risk that a person will be the victim of a homicide with a gun or commit suicide with a gun.[2],[3] This is true regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home.[4] Put simply, if there is a gun in the home, it is easier for a person to pick it up and use it against a family member, intimate partner, or associate in the midst of a conflict. Similarly, people are more able to attempt suicide during a moment of crisis if a firearm is accessible in the home. Suicides are also far more likely to be completed with a firearm than any other means

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... 20homicide

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 4:08 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:08 pm

This is about violent crime and murder.  You do this every time.  Concede the original discussion and MAYBE I will pay attention to your reframe.

No, you brainless piece of ****. It's about what happens when ammosexuals buy more guns.

More people die and are injured - by guns.
 

@Huey  


Are these words of your citation that you question?

Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership.

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:11 pm

First, having a gun in the home increases the risk that a person will be the victim of a homicide with a gun or commit suicide with a gun.[2],[3] This is true regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home.[4] Put simply, if there is a gun in the home, it is easier for a person to pick it up and use it against a family member, intimate partner, or associate in the midst of a conflict. Similarly, people are more able to attempt suicide during a moment of crisis if a firearm is accessible in the home. Suicides are also far more likely to be completed with a firearm than any other means

https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-mor ... 20homicide

 

Sure, seen that before.  But you wanted to know this:

Name the idiot linking gun sales to violent crime - in general.

Acknowledge you got it.

Then we can move on to your diversions.  Even with that post violent crime and gun murders DECREASED last year.

Nod and acknowledge.  
 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:15 pm

@Huey  


Are these words of your citation that you question?

Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership.

 

And yet, in 2023, with a helluva a lot more guns in circulation in the hands of law abiding citizens gun murders DECLINED.

 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:13 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:13 pm

No, you brainless piece of ****. It's about what happens when ammosexuals buy more guns.

More people die and are injured - by guns.
 

 

That is what you want to turn into.

This is about MURDERS.  

Keep spinning, ya whiny lil bitch.  This is how I know you realize your first arguments were ****. 
 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 4:18 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:18 pm

Sure, seen that before.  But you wanted to know this:

Acknowledge you got it.

Then we can move on to your diversions.  Even with that post violent crime and gun murders DECREASED last year.

Nod and acknowledge.

You reading impaired imbecile - THAT IS FROM YOUR CITATION...IT IS THE SPECIFIC VIOLENCE TO WHICH THEY ARE REFERRING.

You are so **** stupid.

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:21 pm

You reading impaired imbecile - THAT IS FROM YOUR CITATION...IT IS THE SPECIFIC VIOLENCE TO WHICH THEY ARE REFERRING.

You are so **** stupid.

 

And has nothing to do with the DECLINE in violent crime and the fact there are more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.  
 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:07 pm

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 2:57 pm

No...by me...

In 2021 18.9 millio guns were sold.

In 2022, 17.4 were sold.

Last year, they were running about 1.4 million a month.

And although homicides increased during the Pandemic years, the NUMBERS decreased LAST YEAR.  

It ain't the number of LEGAL GUN OWNERS.  Please note the word "LEGAL".

Are those your words?

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 4:19 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:19 pm

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:15 pm

@Huey  

Are these words of your citation that you question?

Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership.

And yet, in 2023, with a helluva a lot more guns in circulation in the hands of law abiding citizens gun murders DECLINED.

Fewer guns sold, less firearms related homicides. That is EXACTLY what Duggan discovered.

**** moron.
 
 

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:24 pm

Are those your words?


Fewer guns sold, less firearms related homicides. That is EXACTLY what Duggan discovered.

**** moron.
 
 

 

And you are missing the point.  MORE **** GUNS were sold in the years mentioned than anytime this century and in 2023 violent crime and murder by guns **** DECREASED.

THis isn't about suicides, or accidental discharge.  

Nod and acknowledge.  

R.Suave » 02 Jan 2024, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 3:44 pm

Name the idiot linking gun sales to violent crime - in general.

No one is doing so.....proponents of the immediate retroactive abortion of ammosexuals argue that an increase in private gun ownership is correlated with an increase of - NOW PAY ATTENTION HERE, YA **** SOCK FULL OF **** - firearms related homicides, suicides and injuries.

Nod.

 

 

These are your words.  You got what you asked for.  Nod and acknowledge and then MAYBE I will discuss your diversion. 

Notice that is how a man does it. 
 

Huey » 02 Jan 2024, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jan 2024, 4:29 pm

These are your words.  You got what you asked for.  Nod and acknowledge and then MAYBE I will discuss your diversion. 

Notice that is how a man does it.

You're a **** moron.

Seriously.