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Cannonpointer » 23 Jan 2024, 10:25 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 10:25 pm

Dude, until Nixon, we were calling Taipei China and the mainland a rebel province and an enemy. And that was OFFICIALLY. Unofficially, that didn't end for another 30 years. 

Are you mad at them for controlling their border and for having an immigration policy that benefits their native population?

Would YOU want a bunch of green haired slackers bum-rushing YOUR nation's border?

Every complaint you have made against China rings to my ears like a compliment. Every foul thing you accuse their government of is a foul thing I WISH my government would do.

I'm not complaining...I'm making a point...!
 

Cannonpointer » 23 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm

Are you damning or praising?

Do you disagree with his statement?

I certainly don't. I know lots of people who are anti-racism and want nothing to do with D.E.I.

OK..you know lots of people who are anti racism but are for segregation....  
 

Sumela » 23 Jan 2024, 9:13 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 9:13 pm

Sir.....

Wow, they control immigration? They control their ancient identity?

Makes sense, right?  Wish we did.

I'm not criticizing them..I am calling a spade a spade..
I don't think they're letting Westerners in just to be "all inclusive" or to "celebrate diversity".
 

Fuxck ***.

Harvey Mushman » 23 Jan 2024, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 8:16 pm

  GHETTO BLASTER: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e ... s_in_ChinaREAD AND WEEP MISTER "DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH"... 

My response: "Never in my life, let alone in this forum, have I written, "Diversity is our strength," nor any other typically kowtowing liberal idiom, for I am not a liberal. To understand communism is to know that communists disdain liberalism. Nonetheless, I wonder what ethnic groups in China have to do with what I have written herein." 

In reaction, GHETTO BLASTER reproduced my post of 17 Jan 2024, 5:52 am, which reads: "At least it isn't a racist, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-Jewish invective. Then again, the essence of Martin Heidegger may be afoot." 

However, the terminal problem with GHETTO BLASTER'S "gotcha" is that the call for diversity or, more precisely, for the organizational framework known as "diversity, equity, and inclusion" is much different than anti-racism. The appeal for "inclusion" encompasses groups and structures irrespective of their dynamics, while anti-racism is merely the wish that human beings not be subjugated due to their pigmentation.  

In the case of inclusion, you may, for example, call to "include more women in public office" without regard for their respective political tendencies. In other words, although Nikki Haley, Candice Owen, and Liz Cheney are certainly women, they are political reactionaries who, to me, need to be rejected on that basis rather than on their being women. Ergo, the call for blanket inclusion fails because it is not appropriately discriminatory. And that is why I have never used the term "inclusion" in the sociopolitical sense.  Nevertheless, I still would like to know what China's many ethnic groups have to do with this. 

Be well
Good evening
"Harvey Mushman" 
 

Alternate realities keep ancestries choosing to stay stereotype people on a world stage pretending nobody can understand simple compounding chromosomes algorithm where genetics eternally separates the active reproductions living one at a time now.

Standard operating procedure in rule of law with a chain of command directing people demanding human rights to believe life is more than adapting as displaced evolving forward one at a time now isn't intellectually possible while it continues to do just that in plain sight.

Know the algorithm geographically, geologically, geometrically by the numbers occupying the moment here.

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jan 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 8:45 pm

 Communist China IS a racist, xenophobic and homophobic monoculture.
BTW...when you typed..."diversity, equity, and inclusion is much different than anti-racism"....I had to read that twice just to be sure I read it right the first time.
No explanation is necessary  don't want or need for you to elaborate on that one.

GHETTO BLASTER: "Communist China IS a racist, xenophobic, and homophobic monoculture."

Yes, although it is primarily internet-centered and, thus, strictly rhetorical,  a lot of Chinese people exhibit racist and xenophobic attitudes. However, the only physical manifestation of bigotry that I am aware of is, for example, the occasional restaurateur who employs signage designed to prohibit the entry of black patrons. But, most often, local authorities swiftly deal with those incidents. And never have I known of violence to have been involved. 

Sumela's comment within a subsequent post is well-taken. He wrote, " "It's amazing that so many Americans live and prosper there. Never yet seen a whitey hanging from a rope."

Anecdotally, I know of no cases in which a Chinese citizen has employed violence or physical harassment against a foreign national. In toto, I have spent several years working and vacationing in China but have yet to witness or hear of foreigners being physically assaulted, harassed, or in any way intimidated. I am fluent in Mandarin and somewhat less fluent in Yue, and I have experienced Chinese people referring to me as "round eye" in my presence. But it's never bothered me because it is a manifestation of interpersonal racism rather than institutionalized or systemic racism. As such, those people don't enjoy any discriminatory power over me. So, it is all relatively meaningless. 

Significantly, as an employee/teacher, I was never discriminated against in any way whatsoever. I was always treated fairly and with the utmost respect. However, I do understand that the experiences of racialized foreign nationals working in China can be different. 

GHETTO BLASTER: "When you typed "diversity, equity, and inclusion are much different than anti-racism," I had to read that twice to be sure I read it right the first time. No explanation is necessary; I don't want or need you to elaborate on that one."

Very well. 

Be well
Good day
"Harvey Mushman"
 

HarveyMushman » 24 Jan 2024, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 8:42 am

GHETTO BLASTER: "Communist China IS a racist, xenophobic, and homophobic monoculture."

Yes, although it is primarily internet-centered and, thus, strictly rhetorical,  a lot of Chinese people exhibit racist and xenophobic attitudes. However, the only physical manifestation of bigotry that I am aware of is, for example, the occasional restaurateur who employs signage designed to prohibit the entry of black patrons. But, most often, local authorities swiftly deal with those incidents. And never have I known of violence to have been involved. 

Sumela's comment within a subsequent post is well-taken. He wrote, " "It's amazing that so many Americans live and prosper there. Never yet seen a whitey hanging from a rope."

Anecdotally, I know of no cases in which a Chinese citizen has employed violence or physical harassment against a foreign national. In toto, I have spent several years working and vacationing in China but have yet to witness or hear of foreigners being physically assaulted, harassed, or in any way intimidated. I am fluent in Mandarin and somewhat less fluent in Yue, and I have experienced Chinese people referring to me as "round eye" in my presence. But it's never bothered me because it is a manifestation of interpersonal racism rather than institutionalized or systemic racism. As such, those people don't enjoy any discriminatory power over me. So, it is all relatively meaningless. 

Significantly, as an employee/teacher, I was never discriminated against in any way whatsoever. I was always treated fairly and with the utmost respect. However, I do understand that the experiences of racialized foreign nationals working in China can be different. 

GHETTO BLASTER: "When you typed "diversity, equity, and inclusion are much different than anti-racism," I had to read that twice to be sure I read it right the first time. No explanation is necessary; I don't want or need you to elaborate on that one."

Very well. 

Be well
Good day
"Harvey Mushman"

Take a look at the list of names of Americans living in China sometime...
Do they show ****** in  all the Chinese TV Commercials, Chinese movies and Chinese TV programs  "saving the world" from stupid or else evil Chinese people ..?  
Oh..and last night while riding the bus I ran into one of those guys who says "I'm not a racist but I don't want any ****** riding on the bus with me"...so once again I stand corrected....    
 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Jan 2024, 12:54 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:54 am

I'm not criticizing them..I am calling a spade a spade..
I don't think they're letting Westerners in just to be "all inclusive" or to "celebrate diversity".

Gawwddamn right brother.  Just like Russia.
Older, more mature, seasoned cultures.  

China - 4,000 yrs old - over 60 ethnic groups.  
Russia - 1,200 yrs old - over 100 ethnic groups.
Guess what a Chechen first considers himself?  A RUSSIAN.

They are **** adults.  About the only adults in the room.
They couldn't give TWO **** about WESTERN cultural chaos and confusion.
It never occurred to Russia or China to dabble in diversity 
as they are organically diverse.  They see the West as the
perverted anomic next door neighbors...swingers, anything goes, lost.

Why the **** would they wanna follow that ****? 
Maybe in reality, Russia and China are the mature Exceptional Ones.



 

Kobia2 » 05 Jan 2024, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 11:00 am

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So, it's not a great revelation that in the 30 year absence of major war, Russians began living longer.

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Sumela » 24 Jan 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 9:26 am

Gawwddamn right brother.  Just like Russia.
Older, more mature, seasoned cultures.  

China - 4,000 yrs old - over 60 ethnic groups.  
Russia - 1,200 yrs old - over 100 ethnic groups.
Guess what a Chechen first considers himself?  A RUSSIAN.

They are **** adults.  About the only adults in the room.
They couldn't give TWO **** about WESTERN cultural chaos and confusion.
It never occurred to Russia or China to dabble in diversity 
as they are organically diverse.  They see the West as the
perverted anomic next door neighbors...swingers, anything goes, lost.

Why the **** would they wanna follow that ****? 
Maybe in reality, Russia and China are the mature Exceptional Ones.

So in other words  the [[[JWO]]] never managed to establish a NAACP or a JADL or a SPLC or a CCLU or a BLM inside the walls of Mainland China....?   
 

Harvey Mushman » 24 Jan 2024, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 8:42 am

GHETTO BLASTER: "Communist China IS a racist, xenophobic, and homophobic monoculture."

Yes, although it is primarily internet-centered and, thus, strictly rhetorical,  a lot of Chinese people exhibit racist and xenophobic attitudes. However, the only physical manifestation of bigotry that I am aware of is, for example, the occasional restaurateur who employs signage designed to prohibit the entry of black patrons. But, most often, local authorities swiftly deal with those incidents. And never have I known of violence to have been involved. 

Sumela's comment within a subsequent post is well-taken. He wrote, " "It's amazing that so many Americans live and prosper there. Never yet seen a whitey hanging from a rope."

Anecdotally, I know of no cases in which a Chinese citizen has employed violence or physical harassment against a foreign national. In toto, I have spent several years working and vacationing in China but have yet to witness or hear of foreigners being physically assaulted, harassed, or in any way intimidated. I am fluent in Mandarin and somewhat less fluent in Yue, and I have experienced Chinese people referring to me as "round eye" in my presence. But it's never bothered me because it is a manifestation of interpersonal racism rather than institutionalized or systemic racism. As such, those people don't enjoy any discriminatory power over me. So, it is all relatively meaningless. 

Significantly, as an employee/teacher, I was never discriminated against in any way whatsoever. I was always treated fairly and with the utmost respect. However, I do understand that the experiences of racialized foreign nationals working in China can be different. 



Very well. 

Be well
Good day
"Harvey Mushman"
 

Line of sight from personally alive saying if you haven't experienced it, it doesn't happen beyond your scope of existing in typecast social identity. when not published in context, there is no prove life exists beyond what humans imagine what tomorrow could become today using plans that arrived 350 generations ago.

You see, in my experience of adapting in placement of ancestrally here one of a kind, I recognize my body is never same form shaped as arrived a biological fertilized cell constantly changing form as shaped since my parents conceived me unique from any other replacement in this species since inception.

Life balances outcomes arriving next, now. Choices compound, not disappear with a new idea about changing the future from previous events never duplicated twice functioning the same way with all reproductions combined native to this atmosphere.

You believe anything is possible because you want everyone else to never accept what isn't ever going to happen once.

Evolving exceeds living timed apart now. Universal constant kinetic results are limited to individual cycles of adapting as displaced.

Inorganic results erode, ancestral results decompose space exists between erosion and decomposition of details never duplicated here now as a whole kinetic universe changing results with new details never exceeding the balances still here now in ever changing form.

Thermodynamics atomic matter to ancestral lineages in specific atmosphere with specific ancestries to its native environment populating space one at a time here now performing alternate realities in parallel universes defined as multi-dimensional universes.

If nobody can prove self evident results, then everyone is at a loss trying to disprove ideas anything else is possible. Nos is eternity, prove it isn't. Eternal life exists beyond evolving here now, disprove there is a God.

Nostradamus' omh » 24 Jan 2024, 6:09 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 6:09 am

Alternate realities keep ancestries choosing to stay stereotype people on a world stage pretending nobody can understand simple compounding chromosomes algorithm where genetics eternally separates the active reproductions living one at a time now.

Standard operating procedure in rule of law with a chain of command directing people demanding human rights to believe life is more than adapting as displaced evolving forward one at a time now isn't intellectually possible while it continues to do just that in plain sight.

Know the algorithm geographically, geologically, geometrically by the numbers occupying the moment here.

Babbling **** cocksucker.

murdock » 24 Jan 2024, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 10:54 am

Babbling **** cocksucker.

Defending your legal typecast stereotype persona, I see.

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Jan 2024, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 9:46 am

So in other words  the [[[JWO]]] never managed to establish a NAACP or a JADL or a SPLC or a CCLU or a BLM inside the walls of Mainland China....? 

 
It doers not appear the ChiKnee fall for that ****.

Sometimes it feels like the West is a test tube for Anglo-Zionist
cultural experiments.  Im **** sick of it.  Its demented.

Sumela » 24 Jan 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 10:58 am

 
It doers not appear the ChiKnee fall for that ****.

Sometimes it feels like the West is a test tube for Anglo-Zionist
cultural experiments.  Im **** sick of it.  Its demented.

The work of the  [[[JWO]]] is basically done in the west.

They can now focus their work in China and Russia.
Give it another 50 years worth of financial prosperity [and Jew mass media / sports / monkey music / porn] infiltration  in both countries. 

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Jan 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 11:10 am

The work of the  [[[JWO]]] is basically done in the west.

They can now focus their work in China and Russia.
Give it another 50 years worth of financial prosperity [and Jew mass media / sports / monkey music / porn] infiltration  in both countries.

Very possible indeed.
The younger generation is where they start.

murdock » 23 Jan 2024, 11:55 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2024, 11:55 pm

Idiot, I only report what I see you do.

No one likes a narc, ***.

Snitches get stitches. 
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Jan 2024, 6:27 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024, 6:27 pm

Name ONE CAPITALIST COUNTRY that does not have an enormous welfare state BUILT IN, or admit that welfare states are an ASPECT OF CAPTIALISM, ya retard.
 

 

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

         As you are aware, China tightly controls it's own Media and flow of ...control of what foreign journalists or investigative reporters..... average Chinese citizens... anti-government people...

Governments - ours, theirs - try to keep secrets. Ours persecutes politicians and gaslights children. 

You should be looking at the third world, rapidly crumbling **** hole you're living in. If you put a premium on family life and personal safety from skreet thugs & government goons, I'd say China deserves more respect than America.

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

... I posted several transgressions by the Chinese Government towards their Ethnic Uighur minority.... I'll go through a few... Keep in mind, I lose no sleep over the Uyghur issue in China..

It doesn't? Why complain?

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

My point is why has the UN done nothing other than write one of their useless condemnation reports?.. Where's the global outrage towards the Chinese?.. Why no protesters on the streets or college campuses?

Like Israel, China has a permanent seat on the U/N. Security Counsel. Nothing CAN be done but write scathing reports.

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

1. Ethnic cleansing / diluting... 
   This has been happening since the 1950s but dramatically increased in the 60s & 70s when the Chinese Government sponsored millions of Ethnic Han Chinese ( who makeup over 90% of China's population) into Xinjiang Province which is the Uyghurs homeland.. The demographic went from only 6% Han to over 40%... With the Han expansion came Han government rule which is loyal to the Communist Beijing Regime.. 

The 60s and 70s. Huh.

Bringing renegade provinces under the heel sounds smart. Our government did the opposite. It supplanted loyalists with nigs, slopes, and muzzies.

Which crime is LEAST likely to benefit the polity?

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

2. Mass Incarceration of Uyghurs by the Han into Concentration / Re-education Camps  ..... There's literally dozens of articles / sources posted on the Net.. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOgFiwWt0dk
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-xinjiang
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur ... 84058.html
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china- ... man-rights

You actually LIVE in a nation whose prisons and work farms are chockablock with ethnic minorities. You don't have to look to the other side of the earth.

Kobia2 » 24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:04 am

3. The prevention of Uyghur newbirths through forced Abortion -- IUDs -- and Sterilizartion
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news- ... 14f78d764c

Yeeeaaah... I don't doubt this claim. But it sounds exactly like something I would do. 

4.  Accusations of Genocide committed by the Chinese Government on the Uyghur population of Xinjiang ...
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180979490/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bng0pr94QOc

Africanized americans have, for three decades, been over-represented in abortion mills by a factor of FOUR against their white counterparts. Some is just whites intelligently using birth control -and nigs being nigs. But that only explains away half.

We have far worse things being done to us by our own government than the chinee are doing to their folks. So why do you give one flying ****?

 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Jan 2024, 12:43 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jan 2024, 12:43 am

I'm not complaining...I'm making a point...!

But WHAT point?