Liberal Forum

LowIQTrash » 05 Jan 2024, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 10:49 am

The problem with your line of reasoning is that the same standard of living gains happened in capitalist countries, and at a much faster pace. “Reactionaries and liberals” will also bring up the # of deaths caused by the GLF.

So let’s grant your premise which is that the Eastern Bloc weren’t failures…the problem is there is nothing to write home about.

(Unlike retarded conservatives, I am fully aware of the diff. between a welfare state and socialism.)

By the way, there is one rousing success of a socialist nation, but you aren’t “allowed” to discuss it.

Yes, and that State was ganged up on by the entire planet - which then wrote the history about it, and made the topic taboo. 
 

RebelGator » 05 Jan 2024, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 11:16 am

Filling your gas tank will cause some collateral damage.

Funny how horrified you can be by 1400 deaths on 10/07 and how cavalier you can be about 20 million deaths.

I guess those people's dicks weren't as esteemed by your palate. 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm

Funny how horrified you can be by 1400 deaths on 10/07 and how cavalier you can be about 20 million deaths.

I guess those people's dicks weren't as esteemed by your palate.

Rebel Numbbuts is about as smart as

Coffin Mack, ***, Skanny, etc

Zeets2 » 05 Jan 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 10:35 am

Why don't you show us how well socialism has worked in these modern times?
Care to show us how well it's doing in Venezuela and Cuba?
 

Unfortunately, given the uninformative nature of the corporate media, most people do not understand the reality that, although Venezuela's revolution contains some aspects of Marxism, it is a Bolivarian revolution rather than a socialist revolution. Nonetheless, like Cuba's socialist revolution, Venezuela's revolution is one under siege by internal and external capitalist forces that, by design, have significantly hampered the Venezuelan revolution. U.S. and EU sanctions and domestic economic sabotage have devastated Venezuela's economy. So, of course, Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution isn't fairing well because that's what embargos, sanctions, and domestic economic sabotage are intended to do. They are war by other means. To understand that, one need only recall the order given to then-CIA Director Richard Helms by Richard Nixon to "Make the [Chilean] economy scream" following the election of Chile's Marxist President Salvador Allende. 

Per Cuba's socialist revolution, it has been disaffected by the U.S.'s sixty-two-year-old trade embargo, the Helms-Burton Act, and various EU sanctions, all designed to make the Cuban economy scream. And scream it has. 
Throughout it all, though, the Cuban Revolution has taken the Cuban people from the second lowest standard of living in the Western hemisphere in 1959 to one of Latin America's highest living standards. Indeed, Cuba has lower rates of infant mortality, neonatal death, illiteracy, unemployment, and homelessness than the U.S. When compared head-to-head with Detroit, Michigan, Dayton, Ohio, Newark, New Jersey, and many other American cities, Cuba's standard of living is tremendously higher. 

If Cuba had not been subjected to the devastating effects of economic warfare throughout the past sixty-two years, it would likely have one of the world's highest standards of living. And that is precisely why capitalist juggernauts such as the United States have waged war on Cuba since 1962: because the Cuban Revolution stands as a threat of a good example. Despite its economic warfare-induced limitations and hardships, Cuba has served and continues to serve as an inspiration to billions of people worldwide. 

LowIQTrash » 05 Jan 2024, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 10:49 am

The problem with your line of reasoning is that the same standard of living gains happened in capitalist countries, and at a much faster pace. “Reactionaries and liberals” will also bring up the # of deaths caused by the GLF.

So let’s grant your premise which is that the Eastern Bloc weren’t failures…the problem is there is nothing to write home about.

(Unlike retarded conservatives, I am fully aware of the diff. between a welfare state and socialism.)

By the way, there is one rousing success of a socialist nation, but you aren’t “allowed” to discuss it.

Hello, LowIQTrash. Thank you for your measured response; however, before I respond to it, I need to know what you mean by "GLF." I recognize those initials as "ground-level fall," but I don't think that is what you implied. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, sir or madam. 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 10:20 pm

Funny how horrified you can be by 1400 deaths on 10/07 and how cavalier you can be about 20 million deaths.

I guess those people's dicks weren't as esteemed by your palate.

Quality vs quantity.

Skans » 05 Jan 2024, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 9:59 am

Famous Socialists:

• Kim Jong-Il (1.6 million murders)
• Pol Pot (1.7 million murders)
• Ho Chi Min (3.7 million murders)
• Joseph Stalin (23 million murders)
• Mao Zedong (78 million murders)
• Kim Jong Un (4 million murders, including his own brother)
• Vladimir Putin (2 million murders)
• Xi Jinping (1.6 million murders)

exactly...we will keep you in line, or else...
 

RebelGator » 05 Jan 2024, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 11:16 am

Filling your gas tank will cause some collateral damage.

 

HarveyMushman » 06 Jan 2024, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 11:05 am

Unfortunately, given the uninformative nature of the corporate media, most people do not understand the reality that, although Venezuela's revolution contains some aspects of Marxism, it is a Bolivarian revolution rather than a socialist revolution. Nonetheless, like Cuba's socialist revolution, Venezuela's revolution is one under siege by internal and external capitalist forces that, by design, have significantly hampered the Venezuelan revolution. U.S. and EU sanctions and domestic economic sabotage have devastated Venezuela's economy. So, of course, Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution isn't fairing well because that's what embargos, sanctions, and domestic economic sabotage are intended to do. They are war by other means. To understand that, one need only recall the order given to then-CIA Director Richard Helms by Richard Nixon to "Make the [Chilean] economy scream" following the election of Chile's Marxist President Salvador Allende. 

Per Cuba's socialist revolution, it has been disaffected by the U.S.'s sixty-two-year-old trade embargo, the Helms-Burton Act, and various EU sanctions, all designed to make the Cuban economy scream. And scream it has. 
Throughout it all, though, the Cuban Revolution has taken the Cuban people from the second lowest standard of living in the Western hemisphere in 1959 to one of Latin America's highest living standards. Indeed, Cuba has lower rates of infant mortality, neonatal death, illiteracy, unemployment, and homelessness than the U.S. When compared head-to-head with Detroit, Michigan, Dayton, Ohio, Newark, New Jersey, and many other American cities, Cuba's standard of living is tremendously higher. 

If Cuba had not been subjected to the devastating effects of economic warfare throughout the past sixty-two years, it would likely have one of the world's highest standards of living. And that is precisely why capitalist juggernauts such as the United States have waged war on Cuba since 1962: because the Cuban Revolution stands as a threat of a good example. Despite its economic warfare-induced limitations and hardships, Cuba has served and continues to serve as an inspiration to billions of people worldwide.

So, is it your solution that the US be required to trade with despotic regimes like Cuba and Venezuela and aid and support them?

And isn't it ironic that you compared their plight to the most poorly run and most left-wing socialist cities like Detroit, Newark, and Dayton?  Don't leave out the mess that liberals have made of San Francisco, Chicago, LA, NY, Portland, Seattle, Baltimore, and Philadelphia, among others which you obviously support in their socialist-loving agendas!
 

Sumela » 05 Jan 2024, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 11:26 am

China is ahead of crybaby Murka by decades in infrastructure....ITS GLORIOUS!

https://youtu.be/r6d351sizBQ

glorious!


 
 
freaking GLORIOUS!!!

ROG62 » 06 Jan 2024, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 11:35 am

glorious!
   

freaking GLORIOUS!!!

awwww, poor Lil Roggy....it hurts I know.  Murka is dying.  

 
 

Sumela » 06 Jan 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 11:51 am

awwww, poor Lil Roggy....it hurts I know.  Murka is dying.  

whassa matta, truth hurt?
 

ROG62 » 06 Jan 2024, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:08 pm

whassa matta, truth hurt?

China rising.....Murka crumbling.  Its ukSEPshunAL  
Lil Roggy knows its true....and its eating you alive.  
You always deflect like a true Libby - like Squatchman  

 
 

RebelGator » 06 Jan 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 11:17 am

Quality vs quantity.

Right. Yet you have pretended to be a human being. 

You're just a scuzzball. 
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Jan 2024, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:45 pm

Right. Yet you have pretended to be a human being. 

You're just a scuzzball.

Trailer parks foment and create these soulless rednecks. 
Like blacks, white trailer trash dont have present daddies.

So they spend their youth chasing daddy dick just like blacks.
This cycle results in fake testosterone.....rap, hiphop, and rednecks.
 

Sumela » 06 Jan 2024, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:57 pm

Trailer parks foment and create these soulless rednecks. 
Like blacks, white trailer trash dont have present daddies.

So they spend their youth chasing daddy dick just like blacks.
This cycle results in fake testosterone.....rap, hiphop, and rednecks.

No man without a T deficiency has EVER applauded the mass murder of men, women, and children. 

Cannonpointer » 06 Jan 2024, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:58 pm

No man without a T deficiency has EVER applauded the mass murder of men, women, and children.

 Thats why when they sky scream about abortion, I know its
NOTHING but a political football to them. 

Its a bit like whenever a Repub is Prez....suddenly Libs are avid anti-war protestors  

Its like this....America is **** retarded as ****.


   
 

Sumela » 06 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm

China rising.....Murka crumbling.  Its ukSEPshunAL  
Lil Roggy knows its true....and its eating you alive.  
You always deflect like a true Libby - like Squatchman  

"eating me alive"?   

Nicolai, when you moving back to the eastern bloc?

ROG62 » 06 Jan 2024, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 1:04 pm

"eating me alive"?   

Nicolai, when you moving back to the eastern bloc?

Good one Squatchman....  

Poor dying Murica.....poor sad Lil Roggy
 

Sumela » 06 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2024, 12:19 pm

China rising.....Murka crumbling.  Its ukSEPshunAL  
Lil Roggy knows its true....and its eating you alive.  
You always deflect like a true Libby - like Squatchman  

Hong KongCNN — The Chinese economy was expected to recover quickly in 2023 and resume its role as the undisputed engine of global growth. Instead, it stalled to the point where it’s being called a “drag” on world output by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), among others.

Despite its many problems — a property crisis, weak spending and high youth unemployment — most economists think the world’s second largest economy will hit its official growth target of around 5% this year.

But that is still below the 6%-plus annual growth averaged in the decade before the Covid pandemic, and 2024 is increasingly looking ominous, they said. The country may be staring at decades of stagnation thereafter.“The 2024 challenge for the Chinese economy will not be GDP growth — that will likely be above 4.5%,” said Derek Scissors, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a center-right think tank. “The challenge will be that the only direction from there is down.

”Without major market reforms, the country could be stuck in what economists call “the Middle Income Trap,” he warned, referring to the notion that emerging economies grow quickly out of poverty only to get trapped before they reach high-income status.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/27/economy/ ... index.html

huh...