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Socialist experiments were not and are not failures
Socialist experiments were not and are not failures
By Harvey Mushman
5 Jan 2024 7:48 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
8 Jan 2024 10:39 am
What's with the upside down stripes?
8 Jan 2024 10:43 am
An upside down Tranny Army?
8 Jan 2024 10:44 am
Be strong Roggy....be the best Squatchman you canROG62 » 08 Jan 2024, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑ I always KNOW what I believe smella...the rest is just fodder...
8 Jan 2024 11:03 am
LOLZeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ Each you mentioned and many more ARE SOCIALIST POLICIES; condoning and supporting drug addicts, defunding police departments, failure to prosecute repeat criminals, higher and higher taxes on the wealthy, no bail laws, indoctrination of school children, removing prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance from school, promoting kids who failed to meet basic standards, welfare funding with few restrictions, open border policies, "spreading the wealth around" as Obama promised, allowing homeless to set up camp to live on the street, spending trillions on hoax of "global warming"
None of those are "socialist policies" - except maybe "higher taxes on the wealthy" - which BTW hasn't taken place...except in your silly fantasy world
And speaking of "welfare funding with few restrictions"
In "socialist/commie" California, the threshold for CalFresh (EBT) for a family of 4 is $4,625 gross income/month.
https://icaliforniafoodstamps.com/calfr ... s-for-2023
Wow, those welfare junkies must be living it big!
(Just to give you an idea, a 2 BR apartment in metro Bay Area/LA runs north of $3000/month...and that's in the **** parts.)
https://www.zillow.com/bay-area-ca/apartments/
The billionaires and oligarchs of the USA pay...checks notes...oh, right, almost nothing as a % of their overall wealth. So much for socialism!
...are wholeheartedly supported by YOUR LIBERTAR(D)IAN friends, who want to do away with OUR borders to let in UNLIMITED # of 3rd worlders.open border policies,
At least the DEM-O-CRAPS send back maybe half of the (new) migrants every year.
Compared to LIBERTAR(D)IANS, DEM-O-CRAPS are Jesus.
Obama sure spread the wealth around...to WALL STREET"spreading the wealth around" as Obama promised
Hmm...it's almost like there is consistently [[[a group of people]]] who concoct "creative" schemes to shuffle other people's money around to pocket a % of each transaction, even if those transactions are done under fraudulent auspices.spending trillions on hoax of "global warming"
Wrong. What you see today - TRANNY culture (as @Cannonpointer would say), feminism, drug addiction as a lifestyle, legalization of petty crime(s), glorifying "DIEversity," etc. - is a CELEBRATION of individualism and a repudiation of a nation's "collective" identity.Those policies are the very rejection of capitalism, with the intent of centralizing authority within the government, and DO NOT believe in individualism of its citizens. Socialist want "equity" for the worst dregs of society to receive the same benefits as those hardest working citizens, who understandably become infuriated to see it.
Capitalism - represented by the individual's pursuit of profit - is RESPONSIBLE for creating these abominations.
1) People paying $40K for each transgender "procedure"
2) Women who joined the workforce because being a stay-at-home parent was "oppressive" but working a soul-sucking corporate job isn't
3) 30-45 million illegals currently in the USA driving down wages, increasing RENT prices, and increasing owner profits
4) Racial integration after Brown v Board / Civil Rs causing an exodus to the suburbs
(Guess which [[[GROUP]]] profited off trillions of new loan$ made to freshly minted white suburban homeowners...)
YOUR country's problems are not b/c of "socialism" (or whatever passes as "socialism" in your head) but (((TREASON)))
8 Jan 2024 11:35 am
So you think it's capitalism that's turned San Francisco and other cities in CA into streets that are open-air sewers with open drug use on every street or did they result from socialist policies? Is it capitalism that initiated rent control policies that forced an apartment building owner to operate his building at a loss every year until they walk away from that albatross and let it become a haven for squatters and drug addicts or are those policies socialist?LowIQTrash » 08 Jan 2024, 11:08 am » wrote: ↑ San Francisco is a tech hub with thousands of startups backed up by venture capital / angel investor seed money. How does a city governed by “socialists” (according to you) allow PRIVATE investors to pour billions of dollars each year into businesses? How does a city governed by “socialists” (according to you) also enable investors to drive up the price of real estate to stratospheric levels?
Are you going to tell me that JEW York City, home of Wall Street, is governed by “socialists” next?
And explain why countries which, based on YOUR definition of socialism (which is wrong but let’s assume it’s valid for the sake of argument) are doing just fine (Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, etc.)
Isn't NY now facing a crisis of low-level crime due to their efforts to decriminalize shoplifting, institute no-bail laws, and refuse to prosecute repeat criminals? And aren't those the exact conditions that resulted in tens of thousands of hard-working people fleeing states like theirs as their taxes keep rising and their fundamental services and safety keep deteriorating? Do you really believe those socialist policies are sustainable long-term?
So tell me how you think it's worthwhile to pay tax rates of up to 80% to Scandinavian governments and still see crime skyrocketing?
Or are you unaware of how a country like Sweden is now using their military to fight rampant gang violence?
Sweden PM asks military to help tackle violent gangs
https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/29/swe ... lent-gangs
Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50821542
Norway killer Breivik tests limits of lenient justice system
BY MARK LEWIS January 21, 2022 , Norway (AP) — Convicted mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik spends his days in a spacious three-room cell, playing video games, exercising, watching TV and taking university-level courses in mathematics and business.Halfway through a 21-year sentence and seeking early release, Breivik, 42, is being treated in a way that might seem shocking to people outside of Norway, where he killed eight in an Oslo bombing in 2011, and then stalked and gunned down 69 people, mostly teens, at a summer camp.But here — no matter how wicked the crime — convicts benefit from a criminal justice system that is designed to offer prisoners some of the comforts and opportunities of life on the outside.
So please explain how YOU would feel paying 70% to 80% of your salary in taxes, and STILL facing mounting crime, gang violence, drug dealing, and rapidly becoming a country roiling in immigrant crime?Sweden's Top Cop Has 'No Explanation' Why Country Is Overrun with Crime
February, 16, 2023
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023 ... with-crime
Funny, but you're still living here and not there, huh?
Immigrant crime in Norway and Finland
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 014.926062
8 Jan 2024 11:51 am
Or...maybe...just maybe...San Francisco's **** has little to do with EITHER "capitalism" or "socialism."Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑ So you think it's capitalism that's turned San Francisco and other cities in CA into streets that are open-air sewers with open drug use on every street or did they result from socialist policies? Is it capitalism that initiated rent control policies that forced an apartment building owner to operate his building at a loss every year until they walk away from that albatross and let it become a haven for squatters and drug addicts or are those policies socialist?
The "isms" just determines who has control over an economy (or the direction of an economy as a whole)
Last I checked...there are thousands of startups, PRIVATE banks/finance companies, PRIVATELY owned real estate + housing, and a FOR-PROFIT healthcare system in San Francisco...
When I told HARVEY that if I had to choose between "capitalism" and "socialism" I would prefer "socialism" it does not mean I do not acknowledge there are positive benefits to capitalism.
It means I see everything in shades of "grey"...well, except that (((ONE ISSUE)))
At the end of the day you are attaching a label (which happens to be "socialism") to a set of policies that everybody with an ounce of common sense acknowledges as destructive.
You also have a huge contradiction in your narrative:
"San Francisco adopts socialist policies/is practically socialist...yet somehow billions of dollars of PRIVATE investor money make their way into tech startups and real estate every year"...which you failed to resolve.
Once again, I am not disputing that those policies are detrimental.Isn't NY now facing a crisis of low-level crime due to their efforts to decriminalize shoplifting, institute no-bail laws, and refuse to prosecute repeat criminals? And aren't those the exact conditions that resulted in tens of thousands of hard-working people fleeing states like theirs as their taxes keep rising and their fundamental services and safety keep deteriorating? Do you really believe those socialist policies are sustainable long-term?
(Esp. the part about taxing someone who earns $900K/yr in income at 50%+ while billionaires pay almost nothing)
I am disputing your LABEL.
I don't agree with their sky-high tax rates. That's why I don't live there. (Also because the weather there sucks...might as well live in Sicily or Greece instead)So tell me how you think it's worthwhile to pay tax rates of up to 80% to Scandinavian governments and still see crime skyrocketing?
Or are you unaware of how a country like Sweden is now using their military to fight rampant gang violence?
So please explain how YOU would feel paying 70% to 80% of your salary in taxes, and STILL facing mounting crime, gang violence, drug dealing, and rapidly becoming a country roiling in immigrant crime?
Funny, but you're still living here and not there, huh?
I merely pointed out that those countries, which according to you are "socialist," are not the basket cases you CLAIM they are.
According to your masters at the HURR-dige (Heritage) Foundation, the fact the Swiss, the Swedes, the Icelanders, etc. pay such burdensome taxes should have caused their economies to collapse by now...but they haven't.
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Sweden's gang violence is due to their OPEN BORDER policies, which as I pointed out earlier, your LIBERTAR(D)IAN friends support
The immigration policy I SUPPORT would be considered "radical" by Trumptards...
8 Jan 2024 11:59 am
No, its NeoLiberalism that sucks most of the money to the top.Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑ So you think it's capitalism that's turned San Francisco and other cities in CA into streets that are open-air sewers with open drug use on every street or did they result from socialist policies? Is it capitalism that initiated rent control policies that forced an apartment building owner to operate his building at a loss every year until they walk away from that albatross and let it become a haven for squatters and drug addicts or are those policies socialist?
Isn't NY now facing a crisis of low-level crime due to their efforts to decriminalize shoplifting, institute no-bail laws, and refuse to prosecute repeat criminals? And aren't those the exact conditions that resulted in tens of thousands of hard-working people fleeing states like theirs as their taxes keep rising and their fundamental services and safety keep deteriorating? Do you really believe those socialist policies are sustainable long-term?
So tell me how you think it's worthwhile to pay tax rates of up to 80% to Scandinavian governments and still see crime skyrocketing?
Or are you unaware of how a country like Sweden is now using their military to fight rampant gang violence?
So please explain how YOU would feel paying 70% to 80% of your salary in taxes, and STILL facing mounting crime, gang violence, drug dealing, and rapidly becoming a country roiling in immigrant crime?
Funny, but you're still living here and not there, huh?
America hasnt built anything iconic or glorious in decades. Just boxes.
Socialism in Russia and China has produced some of the most clean and beautiful cities in the world.
No tent cities. No addicts laying on the sidewalks, No turd filled cities.
Carry on with yer myths and cliches though. You be you Cletus.
8 Jan 2024 12:03 pm
****!LowIQTrash » 08 Jan 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑ LOL
None of those are "socialist policies" - except maybe "higher taxes on the wealthy" - which BTW hasn't taken place...except in your silly fantasy world
And speaking of "welfare funding with few restrictions"
In "socialist/commie" California, the threshold for CalFresh (EBT) for a family of 4 is $4,625 gross income/month.
https://icaliforniafoodstamps.com/calfr ... s-for-2023
...are wholeheartedly supported by YOUR LIBERTAR(D)IAN friends, who want to do away with OUR borders to let in UNLIMITED # of 3rd worlders.
Wrong. What you see today - TRANNY culture (as @Cannonpointer would say), feminism, drug addiction as a lifestyle, legalization of petty crime(s), glorifying "DIEversity," etc. - is a CELEBRATION of individualism and a repudiation of a nation's "collective" identity.
Capitalism - represented by the individual's pursuit of profit - is RESPONSIBLE for creating these abominations.
1) People paying $40K for each transgender "procedure"
2) Women who joined the workforce because being a stay-at-home parent was "oppressive" but working a soul-sucking corporate job isn't
3) 30-45 million illegals currently in the USA driving down wages, increasing RENT prices, and increasing owner profits
4) Racial integration after Brown v Board / Civil Rs causing an exodus to the suburbs
YOUR country's problems are not b/c of "socialism" (or whatever passes as "socialism" in your head) but (((TREASON)))
It's SOCIALIST POLITICIANS that have allowed major US cities to engage in the policies that have destroyed those cities and nothing else! You're happy to claim how limited EBT funding is for free food but fail to expand on how those same socialist benefits also give them free healthcare, free education, and subsidized housing that every hard working citizen has to pay for himself. Is it Republican/Conservative principles that pay illegals thousands of dollars every month to give THEM free healthcare while working citizens pay through the nose for such healthcare? Or puts them up in luxury hotels while homeless vets sleep on the street?Are they Republican/Conservative policies that now give criminals the OK to rob and loot stores up to $950 and be charged with nothing but a misdemeanor no matter how many times they're caught? Are they capitalist policies in a city like Chicago that are overrun with gangs and gun violence while their idiot politicians rant against an AR15 ownership when handguns are the overwhelming choice for criminals?
Libertarian preferences for open borders ARE NOT CAPITALISTS! They are the brainless Pollyannas of a group that believes they're living in Candy Land and utopia would exist if only complete freedom to do anything they wish existed. What they support in reality is the anarchy which would certainly result if their wishes were realized. And ANY libertarian who advocates for open borders is certainly no friend of mine and rarely a friend of most other Americans who recognize the need for a limited amount of government which includes a strong border and prosecuting criminals for their crimes.
So tell me who it is that you think is an American guilty of treason? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you think that crime only includes Donald Trump and not Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schiff, Mayorkis and more of their ilk then I need you to show the treasonous crime that you think Trump is guilty of.
8 Jan 2024 12:13 pm
Zeets, there are so many fallacies in your post I don't even know you came up with this nonsense.Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑ ****!
It's SOCIALIST POLITICIANS that have allowed major US cities to engage in the policies that have destroyed those cities and nothing else! You're happy to claim how limited EBT funding is for free food but fail to expand on how those same socialist benefits also give them free healthcare, free education, and subsidized housing that every hard working citizen has to pay for himself. Is it Republican/Conservative principles that pay illegals thousands of dollars every month to give THEM free healthcare while working citizens pay through the nose for such healthcare? Or puts them up in luxury hotels while homeless vets sleep on the street?Are they Republican/Conservative policies that now give criminals the OK to rob and loot stores up to $950 and be charged with nothing but a misdemeanor no matter how many times they're caught? Are they capitalist policies in a city like Chicago that are overrun with gangs and gun violence while their idiot politicians rant against an AR15 ownership when handguns are the overwhelming choice for criminals?
Libertarian preferences for open borders ARE NOT CAPITALISTS! They are the brainless Pollyannas of a group that believes they're living in Candy Land and utopia would exist if only complete freedom to do anything they wish existed. What they support in reality is the anarchy which would certainly result if their wishes were realized. And ANY libertarian who advocates for open borders is certainly no friend of mine and rarely a friend of most other Americans who recognize the need for a limited amount of government which includes a strong border and prosecuting criminals for their crimes.
So tell me who it is that you think is an American guilty of treason? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you think that crime only includes Donald Trump and not Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schiff, Mayorkis and more of their ilk then I need you to show the treasonous crime that you think Trump is guilty of.
Did you read too much (((bREITBART))) or other (((controlled))) media sources?
Yeah...America is so "socialist" (which according to you means "handouts") that the avg full-time worker is consistently paying out more than 80% of their NET INCOME in non-discretionary expenditures - food, housing, utilities, etc. and often has to pay rapacious credit card fees (USURY) to cover gaps in income/spending.
Chicago is a **** NOT because of "socialism" (or "capitalism" for that matter) but because of their KNEE-GROW population. KNEE-GROWS are more predisposed to violence - just look at any sub-Saharan African country and there's your "proof"...
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Have you considered there are MORE sides than just:
1. Conservative (retard) / Republican (retard)
and
2. Liberal (retard) / Democrat (retard) / SOSHALIZT (according to you, these 3 are all on the same side
I don't give a **** about tRump, Hillary, Pelosi, Lindsey (HOMO) Graham, "Turtle" Mitch, Schumer, etc. They are all just FIGUREHEADS appointed to their position to "do their job." The real "power brokers" are HIDDEN from sight...so you cannot see them unless you do some serious digging like @FOS did.
And you are WRONG about libertarDians. Libertar(D)ians are the PENULTIMATE supporters of "free market capitalism" - which means NO BORDERs!
https://www.lp.org/issues/the-economy/
https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
8 Jan 2024 5:27 pm
Name ONE CAPITALIST COUNTRY that does not have an enormous welfare state BUILT IN, or admit that welfare states are an ASPECT OF CAPTIALISM, ya retard.Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ I disagree completely.
Regardless of whether or not those cities succeeded in intentionally causing their downfall, those policies have been enacted by extremely radical liberals in government ARE SOCIALIST! Each you mentioned and many more ARE SOCIALIST POLICIES; condoning and supporting drug addicts, defunding police departments, failure to prosecute repeat criminals, higher and higher taxes on the wealthy, no bail laws, indoctrination of school children, removing prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance from school, promoting kids who failed to meet basic standards, welfare funding with few restrictions, open border policies, "spreading the wealth around" as Obama promised, allowing homeless to set up camp to live on the street, spending trillions on hoax of "global warming", all those and more with the sole purpose of legislating "equity" within the country. Those policies are the very rejection of capitalism, with the intent of centralizing authority within the government, and DO NOT believe in individualism of its citizens. Socialist want "equity" for the worst dregs of society to receive the same benefits as those hardest working citizens, who understandably become infuriated to see it.
Socialists like you can never accept the fact that these policies inevitably remove the incentive for hard work and self-determination. The destruction is assured when the hardest working Americans see that their ever-rising taxation continues and even expands the funding of those who choose not to work, have kids they can't support, the extreme failures of urban schools when students know they'll be promoted without fundamental scholastic skills, minimum wage laws that force employers to pay exorbitant wages to barely literate workers, union laws that encourage minimum levels of competence, and leniency of laws that encourage law-breaking by career criminals, and much more.
Higher standards and a return to meritocracy in capitalism are the only things that will reverse the trend for these cities and in this country.
I encourage you to read this parable which provides the most basic understanding of why socialism has failed EVERY TIME IT'S TRIED:
In the USSR, everybody had a job and everybody was required to work. Welfare is a CAPITALIST idea - to prevent the loafer wearing, entitled, lazy, do-nothing, rent-seeking capitalists from being taken out and shot.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jan 2024 5:29 pm
Wall street sucks the government teat much more than do the welfare leaches, fruitcake.Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑ ****!
It's SOCIALIST POLITICIANS that have allowed major US cities to engage in the policies that have destroyed those cities and nothing else! You're happy to claim how limited EBT funding is for free food but fail to expand on how those same socialist benefits also give them free healthcare, free education, and subsidized housing that every hard working citizen has to pay for himself. Is it Republican/Conservative principles that pay illegals thousands of dollars every month to give THEM free healthcare while working citizens pay through the nose for such healthcare? Or puts them up in luxury hotels while homeless vets sleep on the street?Are they Republican/Conservative policies that now give criminals the OK to rob and loot stores up to $950 and be charged with nothing but a misdemeanor no matter how many times they're caught? Are they capitalist policies in a city like Chicago that are overrun with gangs and gun violence while their idiot politicians rant against an AR15 ownership when handguns are the overwhelming choice for criminals?
Libertarian preferences for open borders ARE NOT CAPITALISTS! They are the brainless Pollyannas of a group that believes they're living in Candy Land and utopia would exist if only complete freedom to do anything they wish existed. What they support in reality is the anarchy which would certainly result if their wishes were realized. And ANY libertarian who advocates for open borders is certainly no friend of mine and rarely a friend of most other Americans who recognize the need for a limited amount of government which includes a strong border and prosecuting criminals for their crimes.
So tell me who it is that you think is an American guilty of treason? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you think that crime only includes Donald Trump and not Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schiff, Mayorkis and more of their ilk then I need you to show the treasonous crime that you think Trump is guilty of.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jan 2024 5:37 pm
The fact that you even have to ask him that rather exposes your reading skills.Zeets2 » 08 Jan 2024, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑
So tell me who it is that you think is an American guilty of treason? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you think that crime only includes Donald Trump and not Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schiff, Mayorkis and more of their ilk then I need you to show the treasonous crime that you think Trump is guilty of.
Every wall street banker, every deep stater, and every newspaper publisher is guilty of treason. Every university president, almost every Christian church leader, and every senator and congressman is guilty of treason. Anyone who works for Ikea can be considered part of the problem, as well.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jan 2024 6:10 pm
Oh god, every time I see something good on IKEA I have to remind myself, “Uh, you really want to hire someone on TaskRabbit and spend another $50-100 to set it up?”Cannonpointer » 08 Jan 2024, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑ The fact that you even have to ask him that rather exposes your reading skills.
Every wall street banker, every deep stater, and every newspaper publisher is guilty of treason. Every university president, almost every Christian church leader, and every senator and congressman is guilty of reason. Anyone who works for Ikea can be considered part of the problem, as well.
8 Jan 2024 7:01 pm
G_d's chosen...it's all you need to know...
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8 Jan 2024 9:30 pm
The most successful experiment in Socialism with a mixture of Capitalism of late I've seen is the Town of Orania in South Africa..
It has a homogeneous population of White Afrikaners of Boer ancestry.. It was founded at the end of Apartheid by Boers who wanted to preserve their own culture, and believed there was no place for them in the new South Africa..... It started out with around 15 people in 1991, and to date has 2400 residents...
It had been widely criticized over the years because there are no ****** living there... The requirements to be a resident is you must be able to speak the Afrikaner Boer Language... As the Town has grown & prospered, it serves as a model for success, when pretty much the rest of South Africa is in an ANC led death spiral... Oranias has its own schools, medical facility, church, businesses, water treatment plant, created their own currency, almost fully energy self-sufficient, agriculturally independent with surplus crops they sell outside the community.. They are self-governed, pay taxes, and do not receive any government grants.. They also provide their own security... They have almost zero crime... They built & maintained all their roadways.. The Town is self-contained and all work & services are done by residents..
They state the reason for their success is the fact they are one people, with a shared culture, language & vested interest... Another key factor is all able persons work and contribute to the community... The Town is actually setup as a Privately owned Corporation, and the residents are shareholders..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkcSKDsNUw
It has a homogeneous population of White Afrikaners of Boer ancestry.. It was founded at the end of Apartheid by Boers who wanted to preserve their own culture, and believed there was no place for them in the new South Africa..... It started out with around 15 people in 1991, and to date has 2400 residents...
It had been widely criticized over the years because there are no ****** living there... The requirements to be a resident is you must be able to speak the Afrikaner Boer Language... As the Town has grown & prospered, it serves as a model for success, when pretty much the rest of South Africa is in an ANC led death spiral... Oranias has its own schools, medical facility, church, businesses, water treatment plant, created their own currency, almost fully energy self-sufficient, agriculturally independent with surplus crops they sell outside the community.. They are self-governed, pay taxes, and do not receive any government grants.. They also provide their own security... They have almost zero crime... They built & maintained all their roadways.. The Town is self-contained and all work & services are done by residents..
They state the reason for their success is the fact they are one people, with a shared culture, language & vested interest... Another key factor is all able persons work and contribute to the community... The Town is actually setup as a Privately owned Corporation, and the residents are shareholders..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkcSKDsNUw
8 Jan 2024 9:39 pm
Yes _____ chose the CHURCH...the NEW ISRAEL.
Catch up old man
8 Jan 2024 9:41 pm
Eat a dick.Harvey Mushman » 05 Jan 2024, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑ Reactionaries and liberals often assert that socialist societies were failures. However, throughout their respective socialist experiments, workers' lives in the U.S.S.R., the GDR, and other former socialist societies improved immensely. Average life expectancy in the Soviet Union, for example, went from 32 years in 1917 to 68 years by 1975.
Poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, homelessness, and other social ills were virtually and easily eliminated in socialist societies. I say "easily" because those pathologies are all but effortlessly eliminated when doing so becomes a governmental priority, unlike in the U.S.
Interestingly, the lives of American workers also improved because of the Bolshevik Revolution. The progressive achievements won by Soviet workers pressured the U.S. capitalist state to concede reforms for American workers. Reforms including homeownership, desegregation, investments in education, public healthcare, etc.
Concerning homeownership, in a 1917 Washington Post op-ed, New York financier and banker Simon Straus wrote, "Widespread and successful homeowning activities in the U.S. would do more to alleviate social unrest and build a bulwark against the encroachments of Bolshevism than any other development."
The Labor Department then initiated its Own Your Own Home program, later led by Herbert Hoover, which provided liquidity for banks toward the expansion of home loans. In 1933, the New Deal's "Home Owners' Loan Corporation was launched, which granted home loans to workers, making homeownership far more accessible and committing workers psychologically to capitalism.
In response to Sputnik and the education gap between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R., the U.S. enacted 1958's National Defense Education Act, which made low-interest student loans, augmenting higher education. While noting the program's success, the late U.S. Senator Stewart McClure said, "I think if there was one thing I did during my work on the hill, it was to focus attention on the opportunity that Sputnik gave all of us who had been struggling for decades to establish a federal program of monetary aid to public education."
But with the dissolution of the U.S.S.R. and, therefore, the elimination of a countervailing system, the U.S. capitalist state began to claw back New Deal programs and other social reforms. Capitalism is, again, free to be as mean as it needs to be.
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He's dead Jim!
8 Jan 2024 9:43 pm
You worship Satan? Makes sense.
8 Jan 2024 9:52 pm
You're a **** idiot.
He's dead Jim!
8 Jan 2024 10:02 pm
LOL....Stretchy
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