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Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:11 pm

Oh, shut up, ya **** ***. 

Can't take the heat, can you ******?
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:21 pm

Can't take the heat, can you ******?

You're a legend, son.   
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 1:40 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:40 pm

You're a legend, son. 

Wish I could say the same about you.
It's a shame you're utterly forgettable.
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

I know what socialists like him do, and he did almost everything he promised during the campaign.

Didn't he raise taxes on businesses?

No, bluffy. Nice try.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he create massive numbers of new regulations?

No, bluffy. Nice try.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he begin to put together his universal healthcare plan as he promised?

No, bluffy. Nice try. Instead, he did a MASSIVE giveaway to wall street. He did quite the opposite, and the MSM sold it to his base as "a start."

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he stupidly pull out all the troops in Iraq and allow ISIS to take control?

No, bluffy. Nice try. He stayed to the very last minute, until the SOFA signed by GWB ran out. He tried everything to get a new SOFA, but the highly publicized GAY RAPES at abu ghraib by the gay soldiers you support nixed it. Nice try.

And while we are here, TELL THE BOARD HOW PULLING OUT OF IRAQ COULD POSSIBLY "HURT" YOUR BUSINESS, YOU BLUFFING LITTLE FRUIT.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he end the Bush tax cuts?

No, bluffy. Nice try.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he tell Joe the Plumber that he was going to "spread the wealth around"?

THERE ya go, bluffy. You're back to admitting you listened to a *** and bought what he was saying as gospel - because you're stupid.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

Didn't he throw hundreds of billions at phony "green energy" companies?

Hundreds of MILLIONS, actually - which is WAY less than a penny on the federal dollar. WAY less.That was how he got his millions. Most pResidents do that kind of ****. Real business people don't piss themselves over it.

Well, competent ones don't.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:20 pm

There's 7, when a dope like you couldn't even think of two!   
Clearly, you let your own racism stop you  from correctly evaluating what he would do.  I was smart enough not to.

Yeah, no, fruitcake. You bluffed in each and every instance.

Not one of the things he actually did could hurt your business, and almost everything you CLAIMED he did was absolute ****.

If you were paying too much in taxes, it was because you're a retard that let his brother in law manage his money, you **** monkey.

Now, let's get back to your STUPIDEST bluff:

TELL THE BOARD HOW PULLING OUT OF IRAQ COULD POSSIBLY "HURT" YOUR BUSINESS, YOU BLUFFING LITTLE FRUIT.

 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:50 pm

Wish I could say the same about you.
It's a shame you're utterly forgettable.

             

There are a lot of broken vaginas in cyber space who remember me every day, fruity.

You're one of them.
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 1:54 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 1:54 pm

 

Zeets2 » 
I know what socialists like him do, and he did almost everything he promised during the campaign.

Didn't he raise taxes on businesses?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

How the Obama-Biden Plan Raises Taxes on One Million Small Businesses
Ryan Ellis  https://www.atr.org/obama-biden-plan-ra ... one-a7252/

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he create massive numbers of new regulations?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo

20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency
https://www.dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20642-new-regulations-added-in-the-obama-presidency/

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he begin to put together his universal healthcare plan as he promised?
No, bluffy. Nice try. Instead, he did a MASSIVE giveaway to wall street. He did quite the opposite, and the MSM sold it to his base as "a start."
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Obama outlines plan for universal healthcare system in US
'We have decided that it's time to give every American quality healthcare,' said the president

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/11/obama-administration-universal-healthcare-reform

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he stupidly pull out all the troops in Iraq and allow ISIS to take control?
No, bluffy. Nice try. He stayed to the very last minute, until the SOFA signed by GWB ran out. He tried everything to get a new SOFA, but the highly publicized GAY RAPES at abu ghraib by the gay soldiers you support nixed it. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Barack Obama announces total withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
President says 'America's war in Iraq will be over' with decision to pull all troops from Iraq by the end of the year
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/ ... rawal-iraq

 *CONTINUED*
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Zeets2 » 
I know what socialists like him do, and he did almost everything he promised during the campaign.

Didn't he raise taxes on businesses?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he create massive numbers of new regulations?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he begin to put together his universal healthcare plan as he promised?
No, bluffy. Nice try. Instead, he did a MASSIVE giveaway to wall street. He did quite the opposite, and the MSM sold it to his base as "a start."
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he stupidly pull out all the troops in Iraq and allow ISIS to take control?
No, bluffy. Nice try. He stayed to the very last minute, until the SOFA signed by GWB ran out. He tried everything to get a new SOFA, but the highly publicized GAY RAPES at abu ghraib by the gay soldiers you support nixed it. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

 *CONTINUED*

*CONTINUED*

And while we are here, TELL THE BOARD HOW PULLING OUT OF IRAQ COULD POSSIBLY "HURT" YOUR BUSINESS, YOU BLUFFING LITTLE FRUIT.
I NEVER said that specifically hurt my business, but it was one of the policies that Obama claimed he would do which he followed through on, while brainless buffoons like you thought he was lying, simply because he was black and you're a racist.
Zeets2 » 
Didn't he end the Bush tax cuts?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Obama Vows Veto for Full Extension of Bush Tax Cuts
ABC News By Devin Dwyer July 10, 2012 In an interview tonight with New Orleans CBS affiliate WWLTV, President Obama vowed to veto any bill that extends the Bush-era tax cuts "across the board," including for individuals earning more than $200,000 and families above $250,000.
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/obama-vows-veto-for-full-extension-of-bush-tax-cuts

Zeets2 »
Didn't he tell Joe the Plumber that he was going to "spread the wealth around"?
THERE ya go, bluffy. You're back to admitting you listened to a *** and bought what he was saying as gospel - because you're stupid.
So even after he proved he would do exactly what he promised, you were still dumb enough to believe it wasn't happening because I "listened to a ***", huh?
How simple to prove that you're not only a racist, but a completely ignorant racist at that!
Here's the proof, Dumbo: 

Obama's Stimulus Has "Spread the Wealth Around": Are Tax Hikes Next?
Heritage Foundation March 23, 2009 
President Obama famously said during the campaign that he thinks the economy works best when "we spread the wealth around." He is wasting no time pursuing this redistributionist agenda, and he is using the tax code to do it.

*CONTINUED*

 
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Zeets2 » 
I know what socialists like him do, and he did almost everything he promised during the campaign.

Didn't he raise taxes on businesses?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Lol - the PLAN raises taxes, according to an agenda source.

You said the PRESIDENT raised taxes, fruitcake. He didn't.

He extended the bush tax tax cuts, you stupid blufftard.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he create massive numbers of new regulations?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo

Where, fruity? What regulations HURT YOUR BUSINESS?

Your source, your claim - it's all ****. Name a **** regulation that hurt your business, son.

Just ONE.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he begin to put together his universal healthcare plan as he promised?
No, bluffy. Nice try. Instead, he did a MASSIVE giveaway to wall street. He did quite the opposite, and the MSM sold it to his base as "a start."
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

"Begnning" to "put together a plan"?

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm

Zeets2 » 
Didn't he stupidly pull out all the troops in Iraq and allow ISIS to take control?
No, bluffy. Nice try. He stayed to the very last minute, until the SOFA signed by GWB ran out. He tried everything to get a new SOFA, but the highly publicized GAY RAPES at abu ghraib by the gay soldiers you support nixed it. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

 *CONTINUED*

You're simply drunk, fruit. Bush published photos of american gay soldiers raping iraqi civilians in a homosexual torture dungeon, AND THEN signed a status of forced agreement that required us to leave by a set date. Obama did not pull out of iraq ONE DAY early.

*CONTINUED*

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:16 pm

*CONTINUED*

And while we are here, TELL THE BOARD HOW PULLING OUT OF IRAQ COULD POSSIBLY "HURT" YOUR BUSINESS, YOU BLUFFING LITTLE FRUIT.
I NEVER said that specifically hurt my business, but it was one of the policies that Obama claimed he would do which he followed through on, while brainless buffoons like you thought he was lying, simply because he was black and you're a racist.
Zeets2 » 
Didn't he end the Bush tax cuts?
No, bluffy. Nice try.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

Zeets2 »
Didn't he tell Joe the Plumber that he was going to "spread the wealth around"?
THERE ya go, bluffy. You're back to admitting you listened to a *** and bought what he was saying as gospel - because you're stupid.
So even after he proved he would do exactly what he promised, you were still dumb enough to believe it wasn't happening because I "listened to a ***", huh?
How simple to prove that you're not only a racist, but a completely ignorant racist at that!
Here's the proof, Dumbo: 

*CONTINUED*

*CONTINUED*Zeets2 » 
Didn't he plan to throw hundreds of billions at "green energy" companies to fight climate change?
Hundreds of MILLIONS, actually - which is WAY less than a penny on the federal dollar. WAY less.That was how he got his millions. Most pResidents do that kind of ****. Real business people don't piss themselves over it.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

The Recovery Act Made The Largest Single Investment In Clean Energy In History, Driving The Deployment Of Clean Energy, Promoting Energy Efficiency, And Supporting Manufacturing 
President Obama made the largest single investment in clean energy in history, providing more than $90 billion in strategic clean energy investments and tax incentives to promote job creation and the deployment of low-carbon technologies, and leveraging approximately $150 billion in private and other non-federal capital for clean energy investments.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/25/fact-sheet-recovery-act-made-largest-single-investment-clean-energy

Not one of the things he actually did could hurt your business, and almost everything you CLAIMED he did was absolute ****.
Oh, so astute business man that you are, you don't think that raising business taxes and adding thousands of new regulations on business owners would affect my business, huh?
Forget for a moment how stupid that statement is, especially when you don't even know what my businesses were, didn't I accurately predict how the economy would crash as soon as Obama was elected?  And you don't think that Obama attempting to mandate business to pay for his universal healthcare plan would affect my business and everyone else's and crush the economy?
How is it that morons like you can even feed themselves?

If you were paying too much in taxes, it was because you're a retard that let his brother in law manage his money, you **** monkey.
Just because someone like you is dumb enough to use an incompetent buffoon for an accountant, don't assume everyone else is as dumb as you!
Again, you've got nothing but another absurd premise because you don't have a single clue about how much I made or how much I paid in taxes, making YOU the total retard dumb enough to make such a statement.

 
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm

*CONTINUED*Zeets2 » 
Didn't he plan to throw hundreds of billions at "green energy" companies to fight climate change?
Hundreds of MILLIONS, actually - which is WAY less than a penny on the federal dollar. WAY less.That was how he got his millions. Most pResidents do that kind of ****. Real business people don't piss themselves over it.
Here's the proof, Dumbo:

In this exact same post, before you continued it, you lied that he raised taxes - and now you are running your **** about him CUTTING them and giving incentives to businesses in a particular sector - like that is a new thing.

You ORIGINALLY complained about monies directly invested (Solyndra type ****), and now you have moved to goal posts to cry about other people's tax breaks.

Worry about your own taxes, fruitcake. Envy isn't a good look.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm

Not one of the things he actually did could hurt your business, and almost everything you CLAIMED he did was absolute ****.
Oh, so astute business man that you are, you don't think that raising business taxes and adding thousands of new regulations on business owners would affect my business, huh?

No, blufftard, I don't. I think you're lying through your **** biscuits and bluffing out your fart hole.

NAME the regulation he hurt you with.
SHOW the tax rate he changed.

I know FOR A FACT that obama not only did not raise taxes, he EXTENDED CUTS THAT WERE SET TO EXPIRE, keeping taxes lower than they would have been without his signature. You got more stupid, or are you out of stupid?

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm

Forget for a moment how stupid that statement is, especially when you don't even know what my businesses were, didn't I accurately predict how the economy would crash as soon as Obama was elected?

It was already crashed, retard. Keep bluffing.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm

And you don't think that Obama attempting to mandate business to pay for his universal healthcare plan would affect my business and everyone else's and crush the economy?
How is it that morons like you can even feed themselves?

He mandated no such thing. Companies already providing coverage were LARGELY unaffected. The one company that DID get affected sued and won - Hobby Lobby. Those who did not get insurance from work now got it from the government - a big BOON to wall street BUSIESSES, tard.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:19 pm

If you were paying too much in taxes, it was because you're a retard that let his brother in law manage his money, you **** monkey.
Just because someone like you is dumb enough to use an incompetent buffoon for an accountant, don't assume everyone else is as dumb as you!
Again, you've got nothing but another absurd premise because you don't have a single clue about how much I made or how much I paid in taxes, making YOU the total retard dumb enough to make such a statement.

And you're not telling, because it would be easy to prove what a bluffing *** you are, fruitcake.
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 3:36 pm

In this exact same post, before you continued it, you lied that he raised taxes - and now you are running your **** about him CUTTING them and giving incentives to businesses in a particular sector - like that is a new thing.

Worry about your own taxes, fruitcake. Envy isn't a good look.

NAME the regulation he hurt you with.
SHOW the tax rate he changed.

I know FOR A FACT that obama not only did not raise taxes, he EXTENDED CUTS THAT WERE SET TO EXPIRE, keeping taxes lower than they would have been without his signature. You got more stupid, or are you out of stupid?

It was already crashed, retard. 

And you're not telling, because it would be easy to prove what a bluffing *** you are, fruitcake.

Giving billions to phony "green energy" businesses who contributed to him IS NOT cutting taxes, you moron!
You don't believe that businesses like mine faced HUGE tax increases under Obama, even after I rubbed your dumb nose in the proof, did you?:

Taxing the rich: The record under Obama
by Jeanne Sahadi   @CNNMoneyJanuary 30, 2015
https://money.cnn.com/2015/01/30/pf/tax ... index.html

Clearly, you'd rather look like a horse's *** trying to defend your lies even after I shoved the facts up your dumb ***, than admit you don't know what the **** you're talking about!  And I certainly give a **** about how tax increases hurt other businesses because I'm obviously far smarter than you and understand how that hurts the economy, NOT because I'm envious of anyone else!

Here's the chart showing Obama's increased regulations that you don't believe were detrimental to businesses:

And here are some of the ones that directly affected my business:
1) Among the new regulations are three that impose stricter limits on industrial and commercial boilers and incinerators, at a total cost of $2.6 billion annually for compliance and $5.8 billion for one-time implementation costs. 
2) Employer requirements for posting federal labor rules
3) Electric and gas rates and gasoline costs raised under Obama

Energy Cost Rise: A Pledge Obama (Unfortunately) KeptI
nvestors Business Daily 10/22/2014
In early 2008, candidate Obama told the San Francisco Chronicle that "under my plan ... electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." He was just as fond of high gasoline prices, telling CNBC in June 2008 — as gas prices shot up to $4 a gallon — that he "would have preferred a gradual adjustment."6 years later, and Obama has succeeded.According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the energy price index has been higher than the overall Consumer Price Index since December 2010 — 46 straight months and counting.

These cost increases raised my monthly electric and gas bills to increase by over $2000 per month under Obama's new regulations.

Apparently, you're too dumb to understand that Obama's regulatory policies forced business costs to increase substantially as a results of his mandates, even WITHOUT raising tax rates!
Furthermore, you clearly understood NOTHING about how Obamacare intended to raise costs for business owners.  The only reason it didn't affect my business is because I refused to let it by cancelling the healthcare insurance I had been giving my employees for years!  Had I not done so, my premiums would have gone up to over $200 a month per employee to get a "qualified" plan.

The biggest crash to the economy HAPPENED AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN '08!  Go look it up, nitwit!

So stick to what you're an expert on, dickhead, because you know NOTHING about running a business.  

 
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

Giving billions to phony "green energy" businesses who contributed to him IS NOT cutting taxes, you moron!

Did someone tell you that it was, gay?

If so, they're as desperate as you are.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

You don't believe that businesses like mine faced HUGE tax increases under Obama, even after I rubbed your dumb nose in the proof, did you?:

Not for one minute, you silly girl, and you got YOUR nose rubbed in the fact that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, you desperate weasel.

NAME THE TAX HE PUT ON YOU, ya phony ***.

NAME THE REGULATION THAT HE PUT ON YOUR INDUSTRY, you bluffing loud mouth.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

Clearly, you'd rather look like a horse's *** trying to defend your lies even after I shoved the facts up your dumb ***,

You blubbered and evaded, ***.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

3) Electric and gas rates and gasoline costs raised under Obama

Gas tripled under Bush, you crybaby ***.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

These cost increases raised my monthly electric and gas bills to increase by over $2000 per month under Obama's new regulations.

FINALLY you come up with enough guts - after desperately googling - to make a false claim. You didn't dare say a word of that **** until you google it - and even then you're lying.

WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? You'd better do your homework, *** - because I'm going to. In what state did electric raise enough to cost you 2k per month more - AND WHAT DID THAT BRING YOUR AVERAGE BILL TO?

Don'tdance and evade, Skippy, or we will all see it for what it is.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

Apparently, you're too dumb to understand that Obama's regulatory policies forced business costs to increase substantially as a results of his mandates, even WITHOUT raising tax rates!

Careful.

You lied that he raised taxes - are you backing off of that lie, or aren't you, fruity?

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

Furthermore, you clearly understood NOTHING about how Obamacare intended to raise costs for business owners.  The only reason it didn't affect my business is because I refused to let it by cancelling the healthcare insurance I had been giving my employees for years!  Had I not done so, my premiums would have gone up to over $200 a month per employee to get a "qualified" plan.

So he saved ya money. Good to hear.

That's more than he cost you on electric.

Good president.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 4:42 pm

The biggest crash to the economy HAPPENED AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN '08!  Go look it up, nitwit!

You didn't know the first year belongs to the last guy?

Google ron reagan, you weak chinned fairy.

"political entertainment industry "

This is all that you need to know about MSNBC, FOX, and such.

Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 6:11 pm

 

 

Zeets2
Giving billions to phony "green energy" businesses who contributed to him IS NOT cutting taxes, you moron!

Did someone tell you that it was, gay?
You inferred that it was, otherwise why would you bother to try making such a stupid attempt to prove Obama's policies couldn't possibly have affected my business?
As if you'd know!

Zeets2 
You don't believe that businesses like mine faced HUGE tax increases under Obama, even after I rubbed your dumb nose in the proof, did you?:

Not for one minute, you silly girl, and you got YOUR nose rubbed in the fact that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, you desperate weasel.
NAME THE TAX HE PUT ON YOU, ya phony ***.
Obama only extended the Bush tax cuts for the first $250,000 of income, nitwit.  Does it shock you to learn that I earned far more than that in many of my years in business?  How sad for you that you couldn't figure that out on your own!
NAME THE REGULATION THAT HE PUT ON YOUR INDUSTRY, you bluffing loud mouth.
I just told you that the new regulations invoked by his idiotic green agenda caused my PSE&G bill to rise by thousands every month for my factory.
Additionally, it was necessary for us to install a new gas boiler that cost me over $25,000 at that time.
So why would I need to "bluff" to convince a blowhard like you?

Zeets2

Clearly, you'd rather look like a horse's *** trying to defend your lies even after I shoved the facts up your dumb ***,

You blubbered and evaded, ***.
No, it's called answering what you stupidly believe are "gotcha" questions, an idiotic attempt when you know virtually nothing about my businesses.

Zeets2
Today, 5:42 pm
3) Electric and gas rates and gasoline costs raised under Obama

Gas tripled under Bush, you crybaby ***.
Completely irrelevant, dickhead!  The price of gas was $1.67 a gallon at the end of 2008, when Obama's stupidity ("we'll bankrupt the coal industry") caused the price to pass $4 a gallon in much of the country:

The Obama economy in 10 charts
https://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2017/01/06/obama-economy-10-charts-final/9.html
By Heather Long   1/6/17
During Obama's tenure, the national average for a gallon of regular gas has been as high as almost $4 in 2011

*CONTINUED*

 
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

*CONTINUED*

*CONTINUED*
Zeets2 
These cost increases raised my monthly electric and gas bills to increase by over $2000 per month under Obama's new regulations.
FINALLY you come up with enough guts - after desperately googling - to make a false claim. You didn't dare say a word of that **** until you google it - and even then you're lying.
Yeah, nitwit.  Google has the amount I paid PSE&G for gas and electric when Obama put new regulations on the industry.  You really are an ignorant buffoon, aren't you?
WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? You'd better do your homework, *** - because I'm going to. In what state did electric raise enough to cost you 2k per month more - AND WHAT DID THAT BRING YOUR AVERAGE BILL TO?
Don'tdance and evade, Skippy, or we will all see it for what it is.
No reason I would EVER try to evade any of your stupidity, since the longer you continue, the more you prove that you know NOTHING about how a business is affected by idiots like Obama.
My businesses and my home have always been in NJ.  My parents moved here from NY when I was 10.
Zeets2 
Apparently, you're too dumb to understand that Obama's regulatory policies forced business costs to increase substantially as a results of his mandates, even WITHOUT raising tax rates on those like you making less than $250K!
Careful.
You lied that he raised taxes - are you backing off of that lie, or aren't you, fruity?
He raised MY taxes, dickhead, as I told you above.  Why would I give a **** if YOURS didn't go up?  Just because YOUR tax rates may have been at the poverty level, it doesn't mean that successful businesses like mine were making LESS than $250K a year!  Get it through your thick head that not everyone is the same jealously whining pauper YOU are
.Zeets2 
Furthermore, you clearly understood NOTHING about how Obamacare intended to raise costs for business owners.  The only reason it didn't affect my business as much is because I refused to let it by cancelling the healthcare insurance I had been giving my employees for years!  Had I not done so, my premiums would have gone up to over $200 a month per employee to get a "qualified" plan.  But not every business owner was able to do that.
So he saved ya money. Good to hear.
Oh, so now we're only talking about only ME and not the entire country of business owners who crashed the economy because of his actions?
That's more than he cost you on electric.
WRONG, dickhead!  His elimination of the Bush tax cut AND the requirement mandates on my gas and electric cost me FAR more than what I saved by ending my employer-provided health insurance.

Good president. 
Zeets2 » 
The biggest crash to the economy HAPPENED AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN November of '08!  Go look it up, nitwit!
You didn't know the first year belongs to the last guy?
So why don't you show me the documentation or link that proves THAT idiotic premise?
I did what I did IMMEDIATELY after election day AND BECAUSE Obama had won the election!  I took actions to save my business immediately, and you simply can't stand the fact that what I did was far smarter than anything YOU'LL ever do!

You're simply not that bright, are you?

 
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

Did someone tell you that it was, gay?
You inferred that it was, otherwise why would you bother to try making such a stupid attempt to prove Obama's policies couldn't possibly have affected my business?
As if you'd know!

YOU inferred. I did not imply.

You aren't very bright, son. The only dots you can connect are the ones you shouldn't.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

Not for one minute, you silly girl, and you got YOUR nose rubbed in the fact that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, you desperate weasel.
NAME THE TAX HE PUT ON YOU, ya phony ***.
Obama only extended the Bush tax cuts for the first $250,000 of income, nitwit.  Does it shock you to learn that I earned far more than that in many of my years in business?  How sad for you that you couldn't figure that out on your own!

Careful goal post mover. You said taxes on BUSINESSES. Now you are switching your argument to personal taxes. You are a dancy panty little thing, aren't you?

How would a hire tax on personal income affect the decisions a BUSINESS MAKES, you cute little fabricator. Your narrative just keeps on changing, shifting, desperately breaking up and reforming.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

NAME THE REGULATION THAT HE PUT ON YOUR INDUSTRY, you bluffing loud mouth.
I just told you that the new regulations invoked by his idiotic green agenda caused my PSE&G bill to rise by thousands every month for my factory.
Additionally, it was necessary for us to install a new gas boiler that cost me over $25,000 at that time.
So why would I need to "bluff" to convince a blowhard like you?

If you were not bluffing, why did you run away from my questions? I asked in hat state your factory is located, and what you average monthly bill was.

Are you afraid to say?

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

You blubbered and evaded, ***.
No, it's called answering what you stupidly believe are "gotcha" questions, an idiotic attempt when you know virtually nothing about my businesses.

Uh huh. And that is how you want to keep it, because you know your **** narrative will not stand up to scrutiny.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:25 pm

Gas tripled under Bush, you crybaby ***.
Completely irrelevant, dickhead!  The price of gas was $1.67 a gallon at the end of 2008, when Obama's stupidity ("we'll bankrupt the coal industry") caused the price to pass $4 a gallon in much of the country:

*CONTINUED*

For three days, fruitcake. Gas STILL tripled under bush and was quite high through most of his pResidency, fruity. The fact that oil companies ARTIFICIALLY AND VERY TEMPORARILY lowered prices for Obama's inigeration is a pretty desperate card for you to play, son.

*CONTINUED*
 

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

*CONTINUED*

Your weak narrative will not withstand scrutiny - your evasiveness demonstrates than you know this, Bluffy McBluffenstuff.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? You'd better do your homework, *** - because I'm going to. In what state did electric raise enough to cost you 2k per month more - AND WHAT DID THAT BRING YOUR AVERAGE BILL TO?

Don't dance and evade, Skippy, or we will all see it for what it is.

No reason I would EVER try to evade any of your stupidity...
My businesses and my home have always been in NJ. 

The guy who has no reason to evade my questions just evaded my questions. What a shocker.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

He raised MY taxes, dickhead, as I told you above.

Your original claim was that he raised business taxes. You got shot down. Then you changed your story.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

Why would I give a **** if YOURS didn't go up?  Just because YOUR tax rates may have been at the poverty level, it doesn't mean that successful businesses like mine were making LESS than $250K a year!  Get it through your thick head that not everyone is the same jealously whining pauper YOU are

You are the homo who cried about the greenies getting tax breaks, fruit of the loom - not I. I am not envious like you.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

His elimination of the Bush tax cut AND the requirement mandates on my gas and electric cost me FAR more than what I saved by ending my employer-provided health insurance.

You're so full of ****. Obama extended the bush tax cuts in toto through his entire first administration. He didn't eliminate the part that affected top earners until 2013 - which anyone who WAS a top earner would know.

You just like to prevaricate, son.

Zeets2 » 10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 7:39 pm

Zeets2 » 
The biggest crash to the economy HAPPENED AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN November of '08!  Go look it up, nitwit!
You didn't know the first year belongs to the last guy?
So why don't you show me the documentation or link that proves THAT idiotic premise?
I did what I did IMMEDIATELY after election day AND BECAUSE Obama had won the election!  I took actions to save my business immediately, and you simply can't stand the fact that what I did was far smarter than anything YOU'LL ever do!

LMAO - you made a bunch of claims that you are now trying to whitewash away. As my questions have become more and more specific, your answers have become more and more general - and less and less verifiable.

How many times have I asked you what your factory in NJ was paying on average for electric?

Why are you afraid to answer than question?
 
 
 

Tempest62 » 05 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm

Watters is a tool and so is Crenshaw, who is that much worse.

Who isn't?

DeezerShoove » 10 Jan 2024, 8:28 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 8:28 pm

Who isn't?

True

Hannity was the biggest dicksucker above them all for Trump. Deep throat style. Nauseating and embarrassing. No dignity, no self awareness
 
 

Tempest62 » 10 Jan 2024, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 8:32 pm

True

Hannity was the biggest dicksucker above them all for Trump. Deep threat style. Embarrassing

I don't care about that ****.
When they lie, it bothers me.

So, I never watch any of that crap.
People that watch "serious" news everyday are indoctrinated whether or not they want to believe it.
That said, not all indoctrination is bad. Eventually a person assimilates. How can one not?

I have a friend who is too cheap to get anything but free tv or basic cable.
He will start spouting **** he picked up from PBS once in a while.
It's not all untrue of course. (How PUBLIC became liberal is a bit strange).

But he gets **** from me when we start digging into whatever he's talking about.
Most people don't realize it...  that they are stupidly following ****.