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Cannonpointer » 10 Jan 2024, 8:22 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 8:22 pm

 

Your weak narrative will not withstand scrutiny - your evasiveness demonstrates than you know this, Bluffy McBluffenstuff.
Yeah, that's it!  I'm worried about the scrutiny of an ignorant and worthless nobody like you!  So go ahead and knock yourself out, Mr. Scrutiny!    

WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? You'd better do your homework, *** - because I'm going to. In what state did electric raise enough to cost you 2k per month more - AND WHAT DID THAT BRING YOUR AVERAGE BILL TO?

Don't dance and evade, Skippy, or we will all see it for what it is.

No reason I would EVER try to evade any of your stupidity...
My businesses and my home have always been in NJ.

The guy who has no reason to evade my questions just evaded my questions. What a shocker. 
****!  I told you where I'm from and that my PSE&G bill went up by about $2000 per month.  I used both gas and electric in processing machinery, and my bills went from an average of $6000 to $8000 under Bush up to $8000 to $11,000 under Obama.  
Now go prove otherwise, you moron!  Because I could have told a dope like you anything, and you'd have no way to verify it anyway!  That's why I sometimes don't bother to respond to your stupidity!

Zeets2 
He raised MY taxes, dickhead, as I told you above.

Your original claim was that he raised business taxes. You got shot down. Then you changed your story.
I change NOTHING, dickhead!  The Obama campaign promised to end the Bush tax cuts, and that was one huge expense that I knew was coming.  The fact is he only was able to reduce that tax for the first $250,000 of business income, while my business was earning a million or more per year, SO MY BUSINESS TAXES WENT UP!

Zeets2 
Why would I give a **** if YOURS didn't go up?  Just because YOUR tax rates may have been at the poverty level, it doesn't mean that successful businesses like mine were making LESS than $250K a year!  Get it through your thick head that not everyone is the same jealously whining pauper YOU are

You are the homo who cried about the greenies getting tax breaks, fruit of the loom - not I. I am not envious like you.
I rail against government spending FOR EVERY CENT that's thrown at the hoax of "climate change"!  Obviously, you don't care a whit about how government wastes your tax dollars, even if the pittance YOU pay is far less than what I had to pay under Obama!

Zeets2
His elimination of the Bush tax cut AND the requirement mandates on my gas and electric cost me FAR more than what I saved by ending my employer-provided health insurance.

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Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am

Your weak narrative will not withstand scrutiny - your evasiveness demonstrates than you know this, Bluffy McBluffenstuff.
Yeah, that's it!  I'm worried about the scrutiny of an ignorant and worthless nobody like you!  So go ahead and knock yourself out, Mr. Scrutiny!    

The guy who has no reason to evade my questions just evaded my questions. What a shocker. 
****!  I told you where I'm from and that my PSE&G bill went up by about $2000 per month.  I used both gas and electric in processing machinery, and my bills went from an average of $6000 to $8000 under Bush up to $8000 to $11,000 under Obama.  
Now go prove otherwise, you moron!  Because I could have told a dope like you anything, and you'd have no way to verify it anyway!  That's why I sometimes don't bother to respond to your stupidity!

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You're so full of ****. Obama extended the bush tax cuts in toto through his entire first administration. He didn't eliminate the part that affected top earners until 2013 - which anyone who WAS a top earner would know.
You just like to prevaricate, son.
****!  I've told you repeatedly that the steps I took to protect my business were based on Obama's campaign promises, one of which was to ELIMINATE THE BUSH TAX CUTS.
The fact that he tried to do exactly that for years and failed to do so for his first term was irrelevant.  When he succeeded in doing it years later, it cost me thousands of dollars as I knew it would from the day he proposed it in his 2008 campaign.

Zeets2 » 
The biggest crash to the economy HAPPENED AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED IN November of '08!  Go look it up, nitwit!

You didn't know the first year belongs to the last guy?
So why don't you show me the documentation or link that proves THAT idiotic premise?
I did what I did IMMEDIATELY after election day AND BECAUSE Obama had won the election!  I took actions to save my business immediately, and you simply can't stand the fact that what I did was far smarter than anything YOU'LL ever do!

LMAO - you made a bunch of claims that you are now trying to whitewash away. As my questions have become more and more specific, your answers have become more and more general - and less and less verifiable.
More ****.  Use your head, stupid!  Why would I bother to "whitewash" ANYTHING that a failure like you attempts to claim when you know nothing about my business?
So why couldn't you show me any evidence to defend your stupid idea that "the first year belongs to the last guy", (easily one of the dumbest things you've ever said)?
Or is that just another idiotic claim you pulled out of your ***?

How many times have I asked you what your factory in NJ was paying on average for electric?
Just once, as I recall and I answered it above.  Now, dickhead, you tell ME how you would prove it a lie even if I claimed I paid $20,000 per month instead of the actual cost of $8,000 to $11,000
It's a stupid and unverifiable question, and further evidence of what an obvious dunce you are!

Why are you afraid to answer than question?
I just did!  Twice!  Now go and try to prove it was a lie, fool!  Take your time, I'll wait!  
 

 

Not for one minute, you silly girl, and you got YOUR nose rubbed in the fact that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, you desperate weasel.
NAME THE TAX HE PUT ON YOU, ya phony ***.

Zeets2 

Obama only extended the Bush tax cuts for the first $250,000 of income, nitwit.  Does it shock you to learn that I earned far more than that in many of my years in business?  How sad for you that you couldn't figure that out on your own!

Careful goal post mover. You said taxes on BUSINESSES. Now you are switching your argument to personal taxes. You are a dancy panty little thing, aren't you?

How would a hire tax on personal income affect the decisions a BUSINESS MAKES, you cute little fabricator. Your narrative just keeps on changing, shifting, desperately breaking up and reforming.
(hire?)   
You really are determined to prove your ignorance, aren't you?  First of all, I owned both a corporation and a partnership, and the profits of a partnership GO ON YOUR PERSONAL TAX RETURN, YOU **** MORON!  And as the president and  CEO of my corporation I was able to easily make decisions about how BOTH my personal and my corporate taxes would be affected by a socialist like Obama.  I'm sure a peon like you can barely make a decision on whether to wipe your dumb *** from the front or the back!    

NAME THE REGULATION THAT HE PUT ON YOUR INDUSTRY, you bluffing loud mouth.

Zeets2 
I just told you that the new regulations invoked by his idiotic green agenda caused my PSE&G bill to rise by thousands every month for my factory.
Additionally, it was necessary for us to install a new gas boiler that cost me over $25,000 at that time.
So why would I need to "bluff" to convince a blowhard like you?

If you were not bluffing, why did you run away from my questions? I asked in hat state your factory is located, and what you average monthly bill was.

Are you afraid to say?
I'm afraid of NOTHING that comes from a worthless twerp like you! 
And I gave you the answer! 
So go ahead and disprove it now, genius!



 
 

 

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Not for one minute, you silly girl, and you got YOUR nose rubbed in the fact that Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, you desperate weasel.
Obama ONLY extended the Bush tax cuts for the first $250,000 of income, nitwit.  Does it shock you to learn that I earned far more than that in many of my years in business?  How sad for you that you couldn't figure that out on your own!
Careful goal post mover. You said taxes on BUSINESSES. Now you are switching your argument to personal taxes. You are a dancy panty little thing, aren't you?

How would a hire tax on personal income affect the decisions a BUSINESS MAKES

(hire?)   
You really are determined to prove your ignorance, aren't you?  First of all, I owned both a corporation and a partnership, and the profits of a partnership GO ON YOUR PERSONAL TAX RETURN, YOU **** MORON!  And as the president and  CEO of my corporation I was able to easily make decisions about how BOTH my personal and my corporate taxes would be affected by a socialist like Obama.  I'm sure a peon like you can barely make a decision on whether to wipe your dumb *** from the front or the back!  

Uh huh. And that is how you want to keep it, because you know your **** narrative will not stand up to scrutiny.
PLEASE, go ahead and scrutinize to your heart's content!  Unless you prefer to just keep lip diddling all day with your sophomoric ****.
You think I don't enjoy exposing to everyone here what a hopelessly worthless blowhard you really are?  HA!
I LOVE IT!  And you make it obvious how dumb you are by continually demanding answers to questions that you can't possibly prove aren't true!

Gas tripled under Bush, you crybaby ***.
Zeets2 
Completely irrelevant, dickhead!  The price of gas was $1.67 a gallon at the end of 2008, when Obama's stupidity ("we'll bankrupt the coal industry") caused the price to pass $4 a gallon in much of the country:

For three days, fruitcake. Gas STILL tripled under bush and was quite high through most of his pResidency, fruity. The fact that oil companies ARTIFICIALLY AND VERY TEMPORARILY lowered prices for Obama's inigeration is a pretty desperate card for you to play, son.

Here's the  gas prices under the last 4 presidents, dickhead!  Tell me who averaged higher gas prices for their 8 years, Bush or Obama?

Here’s How Gasoline Prices Fared Under The Last 4 Presidents

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gene ... dents.html
To date, the average gasoline price during President Biden’s term is $3.60/gallon. That is on a pace to be the highest average under any president. Here is how prices stack up per gallon, from lowest to highest average for their terms:

1. Joe Biden (partial term) — $3.60
2. Barack Obama first term — $3.12
3. Barack Obama second term — $2.95
4. George W. Bush second term — $2.77
5. Donald Trump — $2.57
6. George W. Bush first term — $1.59

So, who's playing a desperate card now, ****?  Or are you afraid to answer such a simple question? 

Kinda shoots your whole argument in the foot, doesn't it jerkoff?

Any more of your stupidity that you need shoved back up your dumb ***?  Come on and bring it if you've got it, ******!
Don't you get tired of being proven to be such an ignorant simp every time you challenge me about my businesses?

 
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am

The guy who has no reason to evade my questions just evaded my questions. What a shocker. 
****!  I told you where I'm from and that my PSE&G bill went up by about $2000 per month.  I used both gas and electric in processing machinery, and my bills went from an average of $6000 to $8000 under Bush up to $8000 to $11,000 under Obama.

I finally corner the fruitcake and embarrass him into **** some numbers.

And he mixes up gas and electric with no proportionality in order to make his claims impossible to fact check.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am

Now go prove otherwise, you moron!  Because I could have told a dope like you anything, and you'd have no way to verify it anyway!  That's why I sometimes don't bother to respond to your stupidity![/color]

Uh huh.

We'll just have to take your *** word for it.

This entire exchange has been on long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner intended to obscure, rather than illuminate.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 10:08 am

Your original claim was that he raised business taxes. You got shot down. Then you changed your story.
I change NOTHING, dickhead!  The Obama campaign promised to end the Bush tax cuts, and that was one huge expense that I knew was coming.  The fact is he only was able to reduce that tax for the first $250,000 of business income, while my business was earning a million or more per year, SO MY BUSINESS TAXES WENT UP!

Not in his first term, shrill narrative shouter.

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Cannonpointer » 11 Jan 2024, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 11:52 am

I finally corner the fruitcake and embarrass him into **** some numbers.

And he mixes up gas and electric with no proportionality in order to make his claims impossible to fact check.

Uh huh.

We'll just have to take your *** word for it.

This entire exchange has been on long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner intended to obscure, rather than illuminate.

Not in his first term, shrill narrative shouter.

I finally corner the fruitcake and embarrass him into **** some numbers.
Yeah, it's SO embarrassing exposing what an economic imbecile like you in one post after another!
And he mixes up gas and electric with no proportionality in order to make his claims impossible to fact check.
OK dickhead, on one of my typical PSE&G bills that totaled $10,000 per month in the winter months, approximately $6,500 was for gas and $3500 for electric.  In the summer months, I paid about $1000 less in gas but the same for the electric service.
Now go and prove that's a lie, you incredible nitwit!
Uh huh.

We'll just have to take your *** word for it.
Oh, but I thought you were going to "scrutinize" my responses?  What happened, ***?  You mean you LIED ONCE AGAIN?!?!?  What a shock!

This entire exchange has been on long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner intended to obscure, rather than illuminate.
I answered every stupid question you had, dickhead, while you claimed you had the ability to scrutinize my answers!  What else is it that a dunce like you need illuminated?  Come on, ******!  Let's keep shoving your **** up your fat ***!

Or is this just your feeble admission that you now have to back away from the lies and accusations YOU made, because you realize I've kicked your dumb *** again, just as I proved your previously certainty was wrong when you didn't believe I was a business owner and what I've accomplished in MY life compared to what an ignorant blowhard like you has achieved!

Not in his first term, shrill narrative shouter.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT HIS FIRST TERM, DICKHEAD AND NEVER WAS!  I was talking about his 2008 CAMPAIGN PROMISES where he promised to end the Bush tax cuts!
Now who's changing the goalposts, dickhead?  
Time to stop your pitiful whining and acknowledge the fact that you lied claiming you'd be able to fact check and scrutinize my replies!
Awfully stupid of you, wasn't it, and now you're crying because your lies have been exposed!          

 
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm

I answered every stupid question you had, dickhead, 

Five posts out, after being cornered, in as convoluted a manner as you could possibly muster.
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm

I finally corner the fruitcake and embarrass him into **** some numbers.
Yeah, it's SO embarrassing exposing what an economic imbecile like you in one post after another!
And he mixes up gas and electric with no proportionality in order to make his claims impossible to fact check.
OK dickhead, on one of my typical PSE&G bills that totaled $10,000 per month in the winter months, approximately $6,500 was for gas and $3500 for electric.  In the summer months, I paid about $1000 less in gas but the same for the electric service.
Now go and prove that's a lie, you incredible nitwit!
Uh huh.

We'll just have to take your *** word for it.
Oh, but I thought you were going to "scrutinize" my responses?  What happened, ***?  You mean you LIED ONCE AGAIN?!?!?  What a shock!

This entire exchange has been one long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner intended to obscure, rather than illuminate.
I answered every stupid question you had, dickhead, while you claimed you had the ability to scrutinize my answers!  What else is it that a dunce like you need illuminated?  Come on, ******!  Let's keep shoving your **** up your fat ***!

Or is this just your feeble admission that you now have to back away from the lies and accusations YOU made, because you realize I've kicked your dumb *** again, just as I proved your previously certainty was wrong when you didn't believe I was a business owner and what I've accomplished in MY life compared to what an ignorant blowhard like you has achieved!

Not in his first term, shrill narrative shouter.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT HIS FIRST TERM, DICKHEAD AND NEVER WAS!  I was talking about his 2008 CAMPAIGN PROMISES where he promised to end the Bush tax cuts!
Now who's changing the goalposts, dickhead?  
Time to stop your pitiful whining and acknowledge the fact that you lied claiming you'd be able to fact check and scrutinize my replies!
Awfully stupid of you, wasn't it, and now you're crying because your lies have been exposed!        

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm

OK dickhead, on one of my typical PSE&G bills that totaled $10,000 per month in the winter months, approximately $6,500 was for gas and $3500 for electric.  In the summer months, I paid about $1000 less in gas but the same for the electric service.
Now go and prove that's a lie, you incredible nitwit!

Okay. Happy to oblige.

Here is a chart of Obama's second term showing natural gas prices in New Jersey DROPPING throughout his second term.

https://www.newjerseygasprices.com/reta ... chart.aspx



This chart^ shows RATES. You cannot lie about your RATES going up when the numbers specific to your area show them DROPPING.

As I said before, this entire exchange has been one long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner INTENDED to obscure, rather than illuminate.

In that, you failed. You CLAIMED your combined gas and electric went up by 35%. What the record SHOWS is that your primary fuel cost - natural gas - actually dropped during Obama's second term. And this is clearly a function of SUPPLY, as I shall now demonstrate:

Now, let's look at his first term. I cannot get actual rate information, so I have to approach the issue from the supply side. I will quote a portion of a Forbes article which does a deep dive into your meme-based narrative and explicates the inputs that drove natural gas prices in his first AND second terms in office:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/20 ... 59ed62554e

"Natural gas production actually started to rise in 2006, and then rose each year for the next ten years. Thus, through seven of President Obama’s eight years in office, natural gas production rose. In President Bush’s last year in office, U.S. dry natural gas production was 20.2 trillion cubic feet (tcf). By 2015 that had risen to 27.1 tcf -- an increase of 34%. Even though this year natural gas production is likely to retreat to ~24 tcf, President Obama did preside over the highest U.S. natural gas production levels in history."

You lazy, lying cretin. For us to believe your **** spew, we have to STOP believing in the basic rules of supply and demand.

I say you're a mouth ****. I say every word out of your mouth is absolute ****. 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Jan 2024, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 1:10 pm

Okay. Happy to oblige.

This chart^ shows RATES. You cannot lie about your RATES going up when the numbers specific to your area show them DROPPING.

As I said before, this entire exchange has been one long, slow walk down of your ****, meme-based narrative. You've wiggled and squiggled and when pressed, presented your claim in a manner INTENDED to obscure, rather than illuminate.

 so I have to approach the issue from the supply side. I will quote a portion of a Forbes article which does a deep dive into your meme-based narrative and explicates the inputs that drove natural gas prices in his first AND second terms in office:

You lazy, lying cretin. For us to believe your **** spew, we have to STOP believing in the basic rules of supply and demand.

I say you're a mouth ****. I say every word out of your mouth is absolute ****. 

Here is a chart of Obama's second term showing natural gas prices in New Jersey DROPPING throughout his second term.
And when did I EVER mention anything about Obama's second term?  Didn't this argument begin based on the promises Obama made in 2008?
So who's moving the goalposts once again, dickhead?

Look at the actual chart for the period we're talking about, moron!  Didn't the price of gas go up steadily from the beginning of 2009 for the next few years? 
ISN'T THAT THE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I CORRECTLY PREDICTED THE COSTS WOULD RISE?

So you've been proven to be wrong ONCE AGAIN!  Try and deny it, you lying ******!


In that, you failed. You CLAIMED your combined gas and electric went up by 35%. 
No, dickhead, what the ACTUAL CORRECT chart from Obama's 1st term PROVES is that the price of gas rose dramatically when Obama first took office in 2009!
And you were stupid enough to try to obfuscate that fact by posting a chart from a different time frame, PROVING YOU'RE A LIAR AND A SCUMBAG LOSER!

Now, let's look at his first term. I cannot get actual rate information,
Gee, I wonder why you couldn't find it, when it took me about 3 seconds to find!   The fact is you KNEW you'd be proven wrong once again, so you thought you could lie and use phony stats from a different period!

Isn't THAT also funny when YOU'RE unable to find that chart and yet I can find that too in 3 seconds!
Here it is, lying scumbag!

Now was there or was there not a HUGE SPIKE in commercial natural gas in 2009 as soon as Obama took office?
What's wrong, ******?  Been proven to be a lying and ignorant scumbag once again?  YUP!

You lazy, lying cretin. For us to believe your **** spew, we have to STOP believing in the basic rules of supply and demand.
Or maybe you'd learn to stop lying and accept the fact that you know NOTHING about how the business expenses rose drastically THE MINUTE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE! 
Or do you STILL want to try denying it, asshole?

I say you're a mouth ****. I say every word out of your mouth is absolute ****. 
You can say whatever you want, dickhead, now that you've been proven both IGNORANT AND WRONG with every response you've made!
Everyone can see what a chump I've made of you, just like last time when you had to have it proven to you that I was a business owner!
AND YOU CAN'T STAND IT!

 
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm

             

He made the claim his natural gas prices went up under obama, and I DESTROYED the ***'s lies. So what does he do? He posts a chart of GASOLINE prices - and even THAT chart shows precisely what I have said in the past - the oil companies dishonestly drove prices off a cliff on the last day of Bush's presidency and made it look like Obama caused gasilne prices to rise. But if you look at the UTTERLY IRRELEVANT chart, you can see that gasoline prices were higher under bush than under obama for the first two years of obama's administration - and no HIGHER than bush's highest, ever. 

NEXT, he posts a chart that is actually relevant, but sustains MY thesis that he paid LESS for natural gas under obama - not more. BOTH TERMS. The chart shows natural gas dropping off a **** cliff under obama. 

Mind you, the drop almost certainly was because of Bush's policies- but the point is, HE **** LIED. 

And if we cannot trust him about the bills he says he paid, we cannot trust him about a **** thing he says. 

I walked his *** down. I kept demanding just a LITTLE information - and boy oh boy, he gave me as little as possible, and only after multiple squiggles. But in the end, he gave me enough to fact check his **** claims.

He got caught running a suck-dick narrative based on memes and feelings. BUSTID - ***.       

 
 

R.Suave » 05 Jan 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2024, 1:22 pm

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1742624451852894361?t=tZcY1VTe-heguOeC6nXeBQ&s=19

"Watters is a tool, making millions to push conspiracies on tv, and bash veterans like me who are barely a fraction of his net worth. Wake up America. The political entertainment industry is almost always lying to you."

https://www.blabber.buzz/conservative-n ... ime-anchor
 
Ooooga-chaka, ooooga, ooooga...

https://youtu.be/NrI-UBIB8Jk?si=ZqeNh8IBhxZ1nRZV

Crenshaw bragged about launching artillery shells in Fallujah killing civilians .  He is trash the same as Watters
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm

Look at the actual chart for the period we're talking about, moron!  Didn't the price of gas go up steadily from the beginning of 2009 for the next few years?

No, jackass. Neither of us talked about gasoline. This is just you being a desperate, busted liar.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm

Isn't THAT also funny when YOU'RE unable to find that chart and yet I can find that too in 3 seconds!

I was looking for NEW JERSEY, where you lied that this **** happened, fruitcake. You posted the national chart - and it makes a liar of ya.

Let's peek, fruity:

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm

Now was there or was there not a HUGE SPIKE in commercial natural gas in 2009 as soon as Obama took office?

No, there wasn't. It dropped off a cliff, as anyone can see.

It is unlikely but POSSIBLE that a couple of months of winter - Obama's term started on Jan 20 - were high. MAYBE. Hard to gauge form that imprecise chart. But what cannot be denied is that it was falling off a cliff from the very beginning of Obama's presidency. What also cannot be denied by any HONEST person is that Bush's policies are to credit or blame for the first months of Obama's administration.

You're just a caught prevaricator, son. You ran your **** mouth and you got stuffed.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 2:59 pm

You can say whatever you want, dickhead, now that you've been proven both IGNORANT AND WRONG with every response you've made!
Everyone can see what a chump I've made of you, just like last time when you had to have it proven to you that I was a business owner!
AND YOU CAN'T STAND IT!

Everyone can read charts, fruitcake. And the Forbes article I posted. Prices for natural gas were quite low throughout Obama's entire tenure - and for the record, I never did believe you owned a business. You're just too stupid, and you lie too much for me to believe you.

You fooled another poster, and I kept my word in the matter - but don't get it twisted. I think you were likely a major player in the transportation sector of the food service industry.

That is, a domino's driver.
 
 

Hank » 11 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 3:53 pm

Crenshaw bragged about launching artillery shells in Fallujah killing civilians .  He is trash the same as Watters

They deserve eachother...

Cannonpointer » 11 Jan 2024, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 4:09 pm

No, jackass. Neither of us talked about gasoline. This is just you being a desperate, busted liar.

No, jackass. Neither of us talked about gasoline. This is just you being a desperate, busted liar.
Hey stupid!  Look at the graph YOU attached, which was under the heading, NJ GAS PRICES!  So that's the same type of chart I responded with!  You see, I'll debate you and kick your dumb *** even when you completely **** up!   
I was looking for NEW JERSEY, where you lied that this **** happened, fruitcake. You posted the national chart - and it makes a liar of ya.
Well, bully for you, then all you have to do is refer to the NJ Natural Gas Chart I attached that shows a HUGE spike in the cost of natural gas in early 2009!
Here's that chart again, fool!:

Let's peek, fruity:

No, there wasn't. It dropped off a cliff, as anyone can see.
Dropped off a cliff?!???  Are you blind as well as dumb???!  Look at the chart, you moron!  It shot up like a volcano IN OBAMA'S FIRST MONTH!
The cost was roughly $11.50 per 10 cubic ft. compared to almost $16 IN JUST A FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY in 2009!!!
THEN the price of it crashed, due to that fact that the GREAT part of the "Great Recession" had kicked in, and almost ALL prices crashed thanks to him!

Isn't that EXACTLY what I predicted when I took the measures I did to consolidate my company the minute Obama wont the 2008 election?

It is unlikely but POSSIBLE that a couple of months of winter - Obama's term started on Jan 20 - were high. MAYBE.
There's no "maybe" about it, dickhead!  IT'S A **** FACT!!!
Hard to gauge form that imprecise chart.
Not hard at all if you were being honest about it, but I'm sure that's too tough a case for a blowhard like you!
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But what cannot be denied is that it was falling off a cliff from the very beginning of Obama's presidency.
****! It sure as hell CAN be denied!  Just look at the graph, nitwit!  
You have to be the village idiot not to think so, when the US Dept. of Energy shows you clearly how the price of natural gas had a HUGE spike in January of 2009, and didn't crash until the country was in the depths of the worst recession since the great depression!

What also cannot be denied by any HONEST person is that Bush's policies are to credit or blame for the first months of Obama's administration.
I'll deny that too, liar!  All GW Bush is responsible for is being at the helm when the banks got caught in their scheme and that caused the start of what should have been a normal, cyclical recession until the idiot Obama made everything ten times worse with his stupid policies!
It sounds to me more like you've got a little taste of that "*** love" for the boy, and you don't like his truthful record to come out like this!

You're just a caught prevaricator, son. You ran your **** mouth and you got stuffed.
Yeah?  SHOW ME WHERE I didn't kick your dumb *** with EVERY ONE of your statements!

Everyone can read charts, fruitcake.
Apparently, except for you!  You posted a chart of gasoline while you claimed it was for natural gas, and you're even to blind and dumb to read the facts of the REAL chart of natural gas prices when I shoved your dumb nose in it like a schnauzer who just **** on the rug!
And the Forbes article I posted. Prices for natural gas were quite low throughout Obama's entire tenure
Yeah, except for the FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS OF HIS TENURE, until the economic crash of a few months later!  What a great strategy he had!   
- and for the record, I never did believe you owned a business. You're just too stupid, and you lie too much for me to believe you.
Of course you don't!  You lied about telling everyone you'd believe the honest response of a third party, and I proved to him without a shadow of a doubt exactly who I was and listed all the businesses I owned over the last 50 years.  And now you're claiming you lied when you said you would believe that third party who YOU had approved of using!  

You fooled another poster, and I kept my word in the matter - but don't get it twisted. I think you were likely a major player in the transportation sector of the food service industry.
So now you're admitting you lied and that you still don't believe it, so let's up the ante, dickhead! 
Pick ANOTHER poster we both could trust and I'll prove it to them also! 
And it's my guess that you STILL won't admit how wrong you were!  You simply don't have the guts or the balls! 

Enjoy your life as a tranny, ******!  
 
 

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm

No, jackass. Neither of us talked about gasoline. This is just you being a desperate, busted liar.
Hey stupid!  Look at the graph YOU attached, which was under the heading, NJ GAS PRICES!  So that's the same type of chart I responded with!

No, jackass - I showed the price of natural gas in NJ - not gasoline. you're an idiot.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm

Let's peek, fruity:

No, there wasn't. It dropped off a cliff, as anyone can see.
Dropped off a cliff?!???  Are you blind as well as dumb???!  Look at the chart, you moron!  It shot up like a volcano IN OBAMA'S FIRST MONTH!

That is on Bush, you **** retard - IF the spike was even as late as you claim. From what I see, Bush's high natural gas prices were already dropping by the time Obama was sworn in.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm

THEN the price of it crashed, due to that fact that the GREAT part of the "Great Recession" had kicked in, and almost ALL prices crashed thanks to him!

Keep reframing, you busted out liar. You claimed your enegy prices were high throughout the obama years. They dropped in the very first months of his very first year - IF THEY WERE EVER HIGH AT ALL. That chart shows prices already dropping in January - and if they did NOT drop, it would have nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, you moron.

Pieces of **** like you will be the FIRST IN LINE to blame Carter for Reagan's recession in the early 80s - you are sickening frauds and lairs to the core.

Zeets2 » 11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 7:19 pm

Isn't that EXACTLY what I predicted when I took the measures I did to consolidate my company the minute Obama wont the 2008 election?

Measures, shmeasures, you farting fraud.

You lied, no one die because I spied and you cried, fruitcake.

*CONTINUED*
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Jan 2024, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2024, 7:33 pm

No, jackass - I showed the price of natural gas in NJ - not gasoline. you're an idiot.

That is on Bush, you **** retard - IF the spike was even as late as you claim. From what I see, Bush's high natural gas prices were already dropping by the time Obama was sworn in.

Keep reframing, you busted out liar. You claimed your enegy prices were high throughout the obama years. They dropped in the very first months of his very first year - IF THEY WERE EVER HIGH AT ALL. That chart shows prices already dropping in January - and if they did NOT drop, it would have nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, you moron.

Pieces of **** like you will be the FIRST IN LINE to blame Carter for Reagan's recession in the early 80s - you are sickening frauds and lairs to the core.

Measures, shmeasures, you farting fraud.

You lied, no one die because I spied and you cried, fruitcake.

*CONTINUED*

No, jackass - I showed the price of natural gas in NJ - not gasoline. you're an idiot.
Here's the chart YOU posted, dickhead!  What do the first two lines on top say, you **** moron?
REGULAR GAS AND PRICE PER GALLON!

That is on Bush, you **** retard - IF the spike was even as late as you claim. From what I see, Bush's high natural gas prices were already dropping by the time Obama was sworn in.
****, LIAR! DID THE PRICE SPIKE HIT IN EARLY 2009 UNDER OBAMA OR NOT?  How can you expect to lie like that when the proof is inches from your stupid face?
You claimed your enegy prices were high throughout the obama years.
SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT, YOU LYING SCUMBAG!!!  I NEVER SAID THAT, BUT NOW YOU'RE CAUGHT IN YET ANOTHER LIE!
Lets see you back up one of your stupid lies for a change!
Pieces of **** like you will be the FIRST IN LINE to blame Carter for Reagan's recession in the early 80s - you are sickening frauds and lairs to the core.
Typical of the response from the lying scumbag you've proven right here!  Change the subject when everyone can see your *** getting roundly kicked!   
So how come you were left quivering in your seat when I challenged you to AGAIN have the chance to prove me a liar regarding my businesses?
****** GOT YOUR TONGUE, SISSYBOI?