UK Gender-Tards: Threaten Russia & N. Korea

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By Sumela
6 Jan 2024 3:22 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Sumela
8 Jan 2024 3:38 pm
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: You don't get it.  A nation's firearms is an indication of its industrialized innovation.  Not a 1-to-1 correlation by any means, but still an indication.

And, do you know what country takes the "prize"?  Switzerland for military weapons with Germany a close second, Belgium 3rd and a tie between Czech and Israel.  England for O/U shotguns, with Italy second. Best engravers are by far in Italy.  Handguns - Germany, Swiss, U.S., Czech in that order.  I chose Germany because it has more diverse designs than the Swiss.
And the Ukes continually complain about the NATO weaponry, 
such as the H777 Howitzer.  High maintenance, barrels warp easily.

Theory is one thing.  Russia defeating the largest military in Europe,
700,000 strong trained to NATO standards for years.....
.....in 22 months is an actual tangible truth.
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8 Jan 2024 3:40 pm
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 4:33 pm » wrote: Producing ammo is like producing pots and pans.
Except that NATO has been unable to do it.

See Skanny, theory is one thing, doing it is quite another.

The West has deindustrialized itself.  It based warfare needs

based on fighting goat herders for 20 years.
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8 Jan 2024 3:46 pm
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Sumela » 08 Jan 2024, 4:40 pm » wrote: Except that NATO has been unable to do it.

See Skanny, theory is one thing, doing it is quite another.

The West has deindustrialized itself.  It based warfare needs

based on fighting goat herders for 20 years.
Lots of American factories produce Ammo. 

Europe:
  • Germany - 221 Ammo factories
  • Italy - 157 Ammo factories
  • France 122 Ammo Factories
  • Czech - 98 Ammo Factories
  • Sweden, Austria and Poland each have about 50 Ammo factories.
Yes, presently, Russia is struggling to make more Ammo to support its wars and proxies.  But, they do churn out a lot of ammo, I'll give the Russians that.  The only reason the West isn't making as much ammo is because THE WEST IS NOT AT WAR!!!
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8 Jan 2024 3:47 pm
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 4:33 pm » wrote: Producing ammo is like producing pots and pans.
Just ONE example.  The US produces about 14,000 155mm arty shells per month.  One reason why Uke has lost so badly.  
Russia fires at a minimum 20,000 arty shells per day.  Poor Ukes are maybe 5,000.  Russia's production of arty shells
is light years ahead of the West. 

The West NEVER imagined another arty trench industrial warfare of this magnitude.  Russia always did.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... n-ukraine/

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — The U.S. Army will boost production of 155mm artillery shells more than sixfold to 85,000 a month by fiscal 2028, according to the service’s undersecretary.
 
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8 Jan 2024 3:50 pm
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 4:46 pm » wrote: Lots of American factories produce Ammo. 

Europe:
  • Germany - 221 Ammo factories
  • Italy - 157 Ammo factories
  • France 122 Ammo Factories
  • Czech - 98 Ammo Factories
  • Sweden, Austria and Poland each have about 50 Ammo factories.
Yes, presently, Russia is struggling to make more Ammo to support its wars and proxies.  But, they do churn out a lot of ammo, I'll give the Russians that.  The only reason the West isn't making as much ammo is because THE WEST IS NOT AT WAR!!!
LOL.  The West wanted this war badly.  And they got it.  NATO is taking an *** WHOOPIN'

Will be 2028 until the West is even close to catching up with Russia.

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — The U.S. Army will boost production of 155mm artillery shells more than sixfold to 85,000 a month by fiscal 2028, according to the service’s undersecretary.
 
 
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8 Jan 2024 4:02 pm
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Sumela » 08 Jan 2024, 4:47 pm » wrote: Just ONE example.  The US produces about 14,000 155mm arty shells per month.  One reason why Uke has lost so badly.  
Russia fires at a minimum 20,000 arty shells per day.  Poor Ukes are maybe 5,000.  Russia's production of arty shells
is light years ahead of the West. 

The West NEVER imagined another arty trench industrial warfare of this magnitude.  Russia always did.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... n-ukraine/

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — The U.S. Army will boost production of 155mm artillery shells more than sixfold to 85,000 a month by fiscal 2028, according to the service’s undersecretary.
You actually make a good point here. I can't disagree with that.  Obama, Biden and Company have gotten caught with their pants down and their cocks in each other's mouths. Easy to make conventional arms and ammo should never be overlooked.
 
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8 Jan 2024 4:03 pm
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Sumela » 08 Jan 2024, 4:50 pm » wrote: LOL.  The West wanted this war badly.  And they got it.  NATO is taking an *** WHOOPIN'

Will be 2028 until the West is even close to catching up with Russia.

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — The U.S. Army will boost production of 155mm artillery shells more than sixfold to 85,000 a month by fiscal 2028, according to the service’s undersecretary.
NATO has been too chicken-**** to enter the war.  They don't seem to want anything to do with it.  They believed Biden about sanctions. 
 
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 5:03 pm » wrote: NATO has been too chicken-**** to enter the war.  They don't seem to want anything to do with it.  They believed Biden about sanctions.
Why enter the war when you can fight through ******* proxy coffin meat.

Uke is a NATO army.   Trained, armed, funded, provided logistics...ALL BY NATO.

10s of 1000s of sheep dipped mercs.  Skans,,,,you are a slow learner.
 
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ROG62 » 08 Jan 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: just showing talent levels...
You consider nickel welding a talent, do ya?
 
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Cannonpointer » 08 Jan 2024, 6:20 pm » wrote: You consider nickel welding a talent, do ya?
right up there with paper mache...
 
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 1:40 pm » wrote: The Kalashnikov design is old, archaic and "third-world.  Nearly all of the designs you mention above are Kalashnikov designs.  The Kord is a clunky belt-fed machine gun reminiscent of what Americans designed in the 1910's.

It's the 21st century and Russia is stuck making guns designed prior to 1950.
THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, THE AK-47 PRODUCED 75 YEARS AGO IS OLD BUT WAS A RELIABLE ASSAULT WEAPON. 
USING THE PLATFORM FOR MANY YEARS WITH IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE WAY WAS BOTH COST EFFECTIVE AND A SAFE MEASURE FOR OUTFITTING MANY TROOPS.
THE NEWEST AK-12 AND AK-15, ARE COMPLETELY NEW WEAPONS THAT SHARED LESS THAN 10 PERCENT OF PARTS OF THAT OF THE AKM AND AK-74 M PREDECESSORS. INCREASED ACCURACY AND SURVIVABILITY OF ITS BARREL, IMPROVED ERGONOMICS, ALONG WITH NEW PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY ARE WHAT DISTINGUISHES THE NEW WEAPONS.
THIS IS WHY KALASHNIKOV USA IS DEVELOPING PROVEN WEAPONS BASED ON RUSSIAN DESIGN AND ENGINEERING. 
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 11:18 am » wrote: When the Brits (Conservative Brits) say something, I'd believe it.  Grant Shapps is a far cry from American leftist SIMPs Lloyd Austin or Antony Blinken.
THE TRANS BRITS FOLLOW TRANS AMERICAS LEAD. 
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ALLOTTED TIME FOR *** **** ADVENTURES IN THE BARRACKS 
 
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Skans » 08 Jan 2024, 3:11 pm » wrote: Here's my position on that.  Yes, competency and training matter.  But, you can tell a lot, and I mean A LOT, by a nation's firearm designs.  Russia's firearms are all based on the designs of one man - Mike Kalashnikov, a 7th grade, Kazakh dropout.  Having said that, he did invent an effective, easy to manufacture albeit crude rifle platform.  The Russians, having no other firearms inventors/designers stuck with that design forever.

The AK is far from "perfection".  The stamped receivers flex like a 14 y.o girl-gymnast's torso when fired. The milled receivers were heavy, yet slightly better. They are difficult to scope without modification and the adjustable iron sights suck corpse-titties. 

Every other industrialized nation has made advances in their small arms, except for Russia. The Czechs, Swiss, Germans, Italians, Finns, Pols, Israelis, Americans, even the Japs.  The English and French are lagging behind, but they still produce some half-decent small arms. The Chinks are still stealing other country's designs.  Mexico - their machinists must all be drunk on Tequila.  Canada steals other country's designs as well - freaking disappointing.  Spain, once upon a time, made some decent guns, but they must have been invaded by hoards of retards.

If a country can design and manufacture a fine firearms, then it can likely produce other good products as well.  That's just the way it goes.
FALSE STATEMENTS, SKANSY
NEW RUSSIAN ENGINEERING IS EMPLOYED IN THEIR WEAPONS.
KALASHNIKOV USA CONTINUES TO USE RUSSIAN ENGINEERING IN THEIR WEAPON PRODUCTION  
 
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righteous » 09 Jan 2024, 8:34 pm » wrote: THE TRANS BRITS FOLLOW TRANS AMERICAS LEAD. 
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ALLOTTED TIME FOR *** **** ADVENTURES IN THE BARRACKS

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righteous » 09 Jan 2024, 8:24 pm » wrote: THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, THE AK-47 PRODUCED 75 YEARS AGO IS OLD BUT WAS A RELIABLE ASSAULT WEAPON. 
USING THE PLATFORM FOR MANY YEARS WITH IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE WAY WAS BOTH COST EFFECTIVE AND A SAFE MEASURE FOR OUTFITTING MANY TROOPS.
THE NEWEST AK-12 AND AK-15, ARE COMPLETELY NEW WEAPONS THAT SHARED LESS THAN 10 PERCENT OF PARTS OF THAT OF THE AKM AND AK-74 M PREDECESSORS. INCREASED ACCURACY AND SURVIVABILITY OF ITS BARREL, IMPROVED ERGONOMICS, ALONG WITH NEW PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY ARE WHAT DISTINGUISHES THE NEW WEAPONS.
THIS IS WHY KALASHNIKOV USA IS DEVELOPING PROVEN WEAPONS BASED ON RUSSIAN DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.
Sure, Russia makes assault rifles that work ok.  They just don't compare to what the Americans, Belgians, Germans, Czechs, Austrians and Italians are capable of making.
 
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Skans » 10 Jan 2024, 8:34 am » wrote: Sure, Russia makes assault rifles that work ok.  They just don't compare to what the Americans, Belgians, Germans, Czechs, Austrians and Italians are capable of making.
AMERICAN ASSAULT RIFLES FAIL UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS. GREAT WHEN THEY WORK
NOT WORTHY OF FEDERATION STANDARDS
 
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righteous » 10 Jan 2024, 9:13 am » wrote: AMERICAN ASSAULT RIFLES FAIL UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS. GREAT WHEN THEY WORK
NOT WORTHY OF FEDERATION STANDARDS
That's false.  The M4's are extremely reliable. They work well in most conditions found in Europe and ****-hole desert countries. About the only place an AK is a tad bit more reliable is in swamps. The Sig XM-250 and the M14, however, work great in these conditions - and are much more accurate than sloppy-floppy AK's.

Look for yourself....

Imagehttps://youtu.be/HGivoWD9OvQ
 
 
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Skans » 10 Jan 2024, 9:30 am » wrote: That's false.  The M4's are extremely reliable. They work well in most conditions found in Europe and ****-hole desert countries. About the only place an AK is a tad bit more reliable is in swamps. The Sig XM-250 and the M14, however, work great in these conditions - and are much more accurate than sloppy-floppy AK's.

Look for yourself....

Imagehttps://youtu.be/HGivoWD9OvQ
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M-4'S FROZEN GARBAGE. LIKE I SAID THEY ARE USELESS IN EXTREME COLD TEMPS.
THEY ALSO ARE PLAGUED WITH BOLT STOP ISSUES.NOT RELIABLE ON A BATTLEFIELD.
GOOD FOR THE WOKE MILITARY
OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE AS GOOD AS THE USER.     
Gun myths: AK-12 vs M4 || Kalashnikov Media (kalashnikovgroup.ru)
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10 Jan 2024 8:59 pm
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righteous » 10 Jan 2024, 9:13 am » wrote: AMERICAN ASSAULT RIFLES FAIL UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS. GREAT WHEN THEY WORK
NOT WORTHY OF FEDERATION STANDARDS
Skanny is a broken record.  

He is a Myth/Cliche Machine.
 
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10 Jan 2024 9:04 pm
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righteous » 10 Jan 2024, 9:36 pm » wrote: Image   Image   Image  
M-4'S FROZEN GARBAGE. LIKE I SAID THEY ARE USELESS IN EXTREME COLD TEMPS.
THEY ALSO ARE PLAGUED WITH BOLT STOP ISSUES.NOT RELIABLE ON A BATTLEFIELD.
GOOD FOR THE WOKE MILITARY
OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE AS GOOD AS THE USER.     
Gun myths: AK-12 vs M4 || Kalashnikov Media (kalashnikovgroup.ru)
Murka got chased out of Vietnam and Afghanistan.

The mechanical details of a rifle are damned near meaningless
in real war.  Skanny always devolves debates into his tiny wheelhouse.

US hasnt fought a peer war since ww2. Like Skanny - ITS ALL THEORY.

On the other hand, Russia has beaten the strongest military in 
Europe in 22 mos.

ITS GLORIOUS!


 
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