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RebelGator » 09 Jan 2024, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 11:09 am

One last word......majority can be singular or plural.
It depends on the context.....the phrase "majority of justices" is clearly indicating a plural meaning.

No, and let me explain why. First,  "....of justices" is a prepositional phrase, consisting of a group of words (of justices) which merely modifies the object of the preposition, "majority".  However, the prepositional phrase does not change it from singular to plural.  

If majority were plural and not singular, then you wouldn't use the article "a", which denotes singular.  You would have used "some" if your object of the prepositional phrase is plural.  Here is an example of a prepositional phrase with a plural object:  " Some of the justices were wrong in their reasoning".  The word "some" (as opposed to "a majority") indicates that its plural.  The object of the prepositional phrase here is "some"
 

Skans » 09 Jan 2024, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 11:47 am

No, and let me explain why. First,  "....of justices" is a prepositional phrase, consisting of a group of words (of justices) which merely modifies the object of the preposition, "majority".  However, the prepositional phrase does not change it from singular to plural.  

If majority were plural and not singular, then you wouldn't use the article "a", which denotes singular.  You would have used "some" if your object of the prepositional phrase is plural.  Here is an example of a prepositional phrase with a plural object:  " Some of the justices were wrong in their reasoning".  The word "some" (as opposed to "a majority") indicates that its plural.  The object of the prepositional phrase here is "some"

Thanks for your response.

Majority on it's own is singular, but if you write about the majority of a specified group, "justices", you should use the plural form.

As a rule, I read the sentence and determine what sounds the best......it clearly is the plural.

I'm not discounting your response in any way, just sticking with mine. Sometimes its good to get away from the same old incessant political arguments and delve into something else.

I know both you and maineman construct proper sentencing, though his are just wrong, factually.  
 

RebelGator » 09 Jan 2024, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 11:09 am

One last word......majority can be singular or plural.
It depends on the context.....the phrase "majority of justices" is clearly indicating a plural meaning.

No....because it would be preceded by "the" or "a".

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:24 pm

No....because it would be preceded by "the" or "a".

You mean like it actually was?

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 10:48 am

To avoid such a patchwork, a majority of the justices is likely to reverse the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling that Trump engaged in insurrection and is therefore ineligible for office under the 14th Amendment.

Have you read as much as a word of the Colorado decision?
 

 

Doesn't matter if SCOTUS overturns it.  Remember that discussion about the higher court thingy?

Huey » 09 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm

Doesn't matter if SCOTUS overturns it.  Remember that discussion about the higher court thingy?

The issue is "on what grounds"...

The Colorado decision details the rules regarding the appeal of findings of fact.


 

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:37 pm

The issue is "on what grounds"...

The Colorado decision details the rules regarding the appeal of findings of fact.


 

 

Yawn.  

Huey » 09 Jan 2024, 12:52 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:52 pm

Yawn.

Too facty....

Jesse will dumb it down for you.
 

RebelGator » 09 Jan 2024, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:28 pm

You mean like it actually was?

As Skans has axplained, if "a" it must be singular, applied to "majority" it must also be singular.

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:53 pm

Too facty....

Jesse will dumb it down for you.

I'm good.  In a month or so the CO decision won't mean a thing.  All I can hope for is a 9-0 decision.  Then you will really have nothing to bitch about.    
 

Huey » 09 Jan 2024, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:06 pm

I'm good.  In a month or so the CO decision won't mean a thing.  All I can hope for is a 9-0 decision.  Then you will really have nothing to bitch about.

This is why you must never presume to opine on these matters...

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:10 pm

This is why you must never presume to opine on these matters...

Until you post your law degree, showed you passed a state bar, and provide info on where you practice you are in the same boat.  Now, I am not going to turn this thread into one of your personal bitching sessions.

Murica are crumbling.

Murica be circlin' da drain.

And it do be GLORIOUS!

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 12:37 pm

The issue is "on what grounds"...

The Colorado decision details the rules regarding the appeal of findings of fact.

Here's the deal, R.Suave.  I'm going to take the above post of yours together with what else you've said on this thread and just acknowledge that you believe the US Supreme Court will adopt the majority opinions of the Colorado Supreme Court. 

I disagree.  I believe they will adopt one of the dissenting opinions. In fact, Liberal lawyers are seeing it this way too.  One of us will be right and one of us wrong.  I don't see the Supreme Court splitting hairs over this.
 

R.Suave » 09 Jan 2024, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 10:52 am

Not my words...

Majority - collective noun, singular..

Correct you were quoting someone else.

Incorrect, "majority of justices" would be "they." "Majority" would be "it,"

They is or they are?

 
 

Skans » 09 Jan 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:42 pm

Here's the deal, R.Suave.  I'm going to take the above post of yours together with what else you've said on this thread and just acknowledge that you believe the US Supreme Court will adopt the majority opinions of the Colorado Supreme Court. 

I disagree.  I believe they will adopt one of the dissenting opinions. In fact, Liberal lawyers are seeing it this way too.  One of us will be right and one of us wrong.  I don't see the Supreme Court splitting hairs over this.

I believe it will be 9-0 to overturn the Colorado decision, 7-2 at the least.
 
 

Cedar » 09 Jan 2024, 1:59 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:59 pm

Correct you were quoting someone else.

Incorrect, "majority of justices" would be "they." "Majority" would be "it,"

They is or they are?

"The majority" would be "it".

Cedar » 09 Jan 2024, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 2:03 pm

I believe it will be 9-0 to overturn the Colorado decision, 7-2 at the least.

9-0 no way.  Here's how I'm going to call it:
Sonia Sotomayor,  - affirm
Clarence Thomas - reverse
John G. Roberts - reverse
Samuel A. Alito, Jr. - reverse
Elena Kagan - affirm (in between licking twat).
Amy Coney Barrett - reverse
Neil M. Gorsuch - reverse
Brett M. Kavanaugh - reverse
Ketanji Brown Jackson - affirm.

So, who do you think will be the liberal defector?
 

Skans » 09 Jan 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:42 pm

Here's the deal, R.Suave.  I'm going to take the above post of yours together with what else you've said on this thread and just acknowledge that you believe the US Supreme Court will adopt the majority opinions of the Colorado Supreme Court. 

I disagree.  I believe they will adopt one of the dissenting opinions. In fact, Liberal lawyers are seeing it this way too.  One of us will be right and one of us wrong.  I don't see the Supreme Court splitting hairs over this.

Don't take another runner...

I've already said SCOTUS will overrule.

The question is, on what grounds?

It won't be a relitigation of the facts.
 

Huey » 09 Jan 2024, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2024, 1:11 pm

Until you post your law degree, showed you passed a state bar, and provide info on where you practice you are in the same boat.  Now, I am not going to turn this thread into one of your personal bitching sessions.

Tiny,

I'm consistently correct.

The various arms up your *** moving your lips are always wrong.

There's a reason.

Ask me why.