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maineman » 18 Jan 2024, 11:54 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2024, 11:54 pm

I always tell the truth.  

 

golfboy » 19 Jan 2024, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 8:08 pm

fifty votes are all that is needed.

       

maineman » 19 Jan 2024, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 8:14 pm

fifty votes are all that is needed.

     

Mainbitch didn't know a bill could pass with fewer than 51 votes, until I showed him.
No.  Really.   

It's stunning how **** stupid Room Temp IQ is. 

golfboy » 19 Jan 2024, 8:23 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 8:23 pm

Mainbitch didn't know a bill could pass with fewer than 51 votes, until I showed him.
No.  Really.   

It's stunning how **** stupid Room Temp IQ is.

"yes *******... fifty votes are all that is needed to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting"

@golfboy 
                 
 
 

maineman » 19 Jan 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 8:26 pm

"yes *******... fifty votes are all that is needed to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting"

@golfboy 
               

You know you added "when all senators are present and voting" after I embarrassed your *** in public. 
Room Temp just can't deal with the fact that he'll ALWAYS be my bitch.
 

maineman » 10 Jan 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jan 2024, 2:34 pm

Seriously.... a former president of the United States who openly hopes that the nation's economy will CRASH in 2024?

Do all you scrotum-sucking MAGA morons agree with that?

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/09/biden-s ... -2024.html

So you *******, Biden doing everything he can to crash the economy and you think it's a bad thing for Trump to say he hopes it happens before and not during his administration? You are one **** up individual. To add Clinton signed into law amendments (which forced banks to make loans to people who could not pay them back) to the Community Reinvestment Act that caused the Mortgage crisis.Which subsequently when the "balloon" payments kicked in during Bush's administration with a huge percentage of people defaulting Bush was widely blamed for the housing market crash.
 

FredH » 19 Jan 2024, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 9:37 pm

So you *******, Biden doing everything he can to crash the economy and you think it's a bad thing for Trump to say he hopes it happens before and not during his administration? You are one **** up individual. To add Clinton signed into law amendments (which forced banks to make loans to people who could not pay them back) to the Community Reinvestment Act that caused the Mortgage crisis.Which subsequently when the "balloon" payments kicked in during Bush's administration with a huge percentage of people defaulting Bush was widely blamed for the housing market crash.

the economy is rebounding, and consumer confidence is rebounding as well.

sorry.

golfboy » 19 Jan 2024, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 9:03 pm

You know you added "when all senators are present and voting" after I embarrassed your *** in public. 
Room Temp just can't deal with the fact that he'll ALWAYS be my bitch.

you said, and I quote, "yes *******, fifty votes are all that is required to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting"

I didn't force you to make that statement.  
It was all you.  
And it is as wrong today as it was when you said it.      

maineman » 19 Jan 2024, 10:01 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 10:01 pm

you said, and I quote, "yes *******, fifty votes are all that is required to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting"

I didn't force you to make that statement.  
It was all you.  
And it is as wrong today as it was when you said it.    

Poor mainbitch.   It doesn't matter how many times you tell these fairy tales, it's not going to make you any smarter. 
You'll always be my bitch. 
 

golfboy » 19 Jan 2024, 10:23 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 10:23 pm

Poor mainbitch.   It doesn't matter how many times you tell these fairy tales, it's not going to make you any smarter. 
You'll always be my bitch.

you are denying that you wrote the quoted sentence?

really?

All Empires end.....its hard, I get it

War Empires are fragile

The only left/right dispute in WASH DC

is who will control Empire

maineman » 19 Jan 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2024, 8:26 pm

"yes *******... fifty votes are all that is needed to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting"

@golfboy 
                 
 
 

Why democracies fail every time they replace a dictatorship. Last time I checked the vice president could cast a vote when senate has a 50/50 deadlock on a bill. so there would be a 51/50 vote for or against the legislation moralizing reasonable doubt life is self evidently evolving in plain sight.

Nostradamus'omh » 20 Jan 2024, 7:25 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 7:25 am

Why democracies fail every time they replace a dictatorship. Last time I checked the vice president could cast a vote when senate has a 50/50 deadlock on a bill. so there would be a 51/50 vote for or against the legislation moralizing reasonable doubt life is self evidently evolving in plain sight.

You are absolutely right.  The Vice President casts a VOTE.  That gives the winning side 51 VOTES.  It ALWAYS takes a minimum of 51 VOTES to pass a bill in the Senate when all Senators are present and voting.  The tally can be 51-49 or it can be  51-50.  But a minimum of 51 VOTES are required to pass a bill in the Senate when all Senators are present and voting.  YOU know this.  I know this.  @golfboy   thinks that 50 VOTES are all that is needed to pass a bill when the gang's all there.  You should explain it to him as only you can do.  He clearly won't accept the civics lesson from me.   

You'd think that, if he has that stable of Mexican third graders schooled in economics, he might have figured out how to stock the stable with a few civics child prodigies as well.     

maineman » 20 Jan 2024, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 10:15 am

You are absolutely right.  The Vice President casts a VOTE.  That gives the winning side 51 VOTES.  It ALWAYS takes a minimum of 51 VOTES to pass a bill in the Senate when all Senators are present and voting.  The tally can be 51-49 or it can be  51-50.  But a minimum of 51 VOTES are required to pass a bill in the Senate when all Senators are present and voting.  YOU know this.  I know this.  @golfboy   thinks that 50 VOTES are all that is needed to pass a bill when the gang's all there.  You should explain it to him as only you can do.  He clearly won't accept the civics lesson from me.   

You'd think that, if he has that stable of Mexican third graders schooled in economics, he might have figured out how to stock the stable with a few civics child prodigies as well.    :rofl:  

Something you aren't considering here, is the Senate can create rules that bypass 51 votes. there is that no vote vote, so when all 100 senators are present abstaining is a vote neither for or against a bill where as 100% voted there can be less than 50 votes passing legislation since of the votes counted for or against 51% could be 45 in favor with say 10 senators going abstaining from the vote.

House and senate rules of engagement don't always follow constitutional guidelines anymore.

Nostradamus'omh » 20 Jan 2024, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 1:02 pm

Something you aren't considering here, is the Senate can create rules that bypass 51 votes. there is that no vote vote, so when all 100 senators are present abstaining is a vote neither for or against a bill where as 100% voted there can be less than 50 votes passing legislation since of the votes counted for or against 51% could be 45 in favor with say 10 senators going abstaining from the vote.

House and senate rules of engagement don't always follow constitutional guidelines anymore.

I am going to disagree with you here.  A majority of senators present is required to pass a bill.  If 50 vote in favor of passage, and 49 vote against passage and one abstains, there is no majority to pass, and there is no tie to break so the VP cannot cast a tiebreaking vote.  Ergo, the measure does not pass.

maineman » 20 Jan 2024, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 2:05 pm

I am going to disagree with you here.  A majority of senators present is required to pass a bill.  If 50 vote in favor of passage, and 49 vote against passage and one abstains, there is no majority to pass, and there is no tie to break so the VP cannot cast a tiebreaking vote.  Ergo, the measure does not pass.

You seem to know a lot about the Senate.....do you mind if I ask you a question?

Why is Chuck Schumer such a piece of ****?
 

RebelGator » 20 Jan 2024, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 2:10 pm

You seem to know a lot about the Senate.....do you mind if I ask you a question?

Why is Chuck Schumer such a piece of ****?

I have known a lot of New York Jews who were naturally irritating.  Whether you like him or not does not bother him or me, nor does it change the fact that he is an effective majority leader.

maineman » 20 Jan 2024, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2024, 2:31 pm

I have known a lot of New York Jews who were naturally irritating.  Whether you like him or not does not bother him or me, nor does it change the fact that he is an effective majority leader.

Thanks for the almost answer.