Dictator Trump, is it Fearmongering?

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By Monderegal
19 Jan 2024 4:04 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Z09 » 19 Jan 2024, 5:58 pm » wrote: You're the clown that's been caught in lies...

Wanna review a few?
sure

if you want to embarrass yourself again

idiot  :LOL:  
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GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jan 2024, 6:00 pm » wrote: Gov. Richard Lamm: My plan to destroy America

I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white-bread, too self-satisfied, too rich … then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do.

History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” So here is my plan:

1. We must first make America a bilingual/bicultural country. History shows … that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. …

Scholar Seymour Martin Lipset put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy.”

2. I would then invent “multiculturalism” and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal … there are no cultural differences that are important … and the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.

3. We can make the United States a “Hispanic Quebec” without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: “… the apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethno-centrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.”

4. I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor … I would make our fastest-growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. …

5. I would then get the big foundations and Big Business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of victimology. … I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.

6. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would “celebrate diversity.” … It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other … when they are not killing each other.

A diverse peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia. … Dorf’s World History tells us the [ancient] Greeks believed they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature and worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games in honor of Zeus and venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors … local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions … .

7. Then I would place all these subjects off-limits and make them taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to “heretic” in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like “racist,” and “xenophobe” halt argument and conversation. I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws.

I would develop a mantra: because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good.
So why was he allowed to hold those views and express them if he was being silenced?
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
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19 Jan 2024 5:23 pm
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 6:08 pm » wrote: So why was he allowed to hold those views and express them if he was being silenced?
See what would happen today if Dick Lamb asked to speak at a college campus.
 
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19 Jan 2024 5:26 pm
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 5:04 pm » wrote: Even the German Magazine Der Spiegel is running a cover story about the fear of Trump becoming a dictator. Is it just fearmongering? Or is there a real possibility? It mostly depends on Trump but at least Tucker Carlson is saying the Iowa Caucuses weren't fixed. I for one and hopeful about this whole situation. Still, it will probably stay in the conversation throughout this election cycle.
In order for a President to become a dictator in this Country, that person would need the collective cooperation of the body politic in DC to do so.

An entrenched insider like Joe Biden would be a far more likely candidate for a dictatorship than someone like Trump.

​​​​​​The establishment hates Trump, and short of an all out bloody assed revolution by We the People during his tenure, there is very little to no chance of the man becoming a dictator.
 
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19 Jan 2024 5:45 pm
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Z09 » 19 Jan 2024, 6:21 pm » wrote: How's your wife?
You know..
The one that needed an operation and dopelooknow sent his limo over with  bags full $$
she is good … thanks

not bags
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19 Jan 2024 5:50 pm
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Z09 » 19 Jan 2024, 6:48 pm » wrote: You just lie..
And you decided to lie to cover for that idiots claims..

And that's what liberals do...
LIe for each other
link?

idiot :LOL:  
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19 Jan 2024 5:56 pm
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GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jan 2024, 6:23 pm » wrote: See what would happen today if Dick Lamb asked to speak at a college campus.

I can see that for college campuses. 
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Mrkelly » 19 Jan 2024, 6:45 pm » wrote: she is good … thanks

not bags
I remember it being a single brown paper bag...

:rofl:  
 
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RedheadedStranger » 19 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm » wrote: I remember it being a single brown paper bag...

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so does she  :LOL:  
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 6:56 pm » wrote: I can see that for college campuses.
If a college is getting a penny's worth of financial support from the tax payers then they have a duty to be as politically neutral as possible.
In fact our public schools  have no business acting as political indoctrination centers of any kind. 
So in view of that I don't really think Dick Lamb or any other sort of political activists have any business recruiting young minds at any public schools.
Any public school teachers caught doing that at any level from kindergarten on up should be given just one warning before losing their jobs.

 
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jan 2024, 7:10 pm » wrote: If a college is getting a penny's worth of financial support from the tax payers then they have a duty to be as politically neutral as possible.
In fact our public schools  have no business acting as political indoctrination centers of any kind. 
So in view of that I don't really think Dick Lamb or any other sort of political activists have any business recruiting young minds at any public schools.
Any public school teachers caught doing that at any level from kindergarten on up should be given just one warning before losing their jobs.
DeSantes fan I'm assuming. Perhaps you are exchanging indoctrination with indoctrination.
 
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 7:54 pm » wrote: DeSantes fan I'm assuming. Perhaps you are exchanging indoctrination with indoctrination.
If educational institutions are going to indoctrinate, then I would just as soon they instill my beliefs instead of yours.

Just sayin'.

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19 Jan 2024 7:22 pm
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RedheadedStranger » 19 Jan 2024, 8:01 pm » wrote: If educational institutions are going to indoctrinate, then I would just as soon they instill my beliefs instead of yours.

Just sayin'.

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A lot of it to is the fact that Affirmative Action et al. were fiercely fought against and then embraced and they kinda kept moving from there. Everything reaches its logical end at some point. I guess the education system is just trying to figure out what to replace it with at this point. Uncharted territory ahead.
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Z09 » 19 Jan 2024, 5:40 pm » wrote: Your Democrats are starting with the...."I'm really scared"..****
How goes The War on Christmas?
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 6:05 pm » wrote: Well that's kinda a half truth if you ask me. There is a level of indifference to black people but there is also some neglect in the community itself. Nothing is clear cut with that one.
Half truth?

Freckleblaster is an inbred moron.
 
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 7:54 pm » wrote: DeSantes fan I'm assuming. Perhaps you are exchanging indoctrination with indoctrination.
I like DeSantis for his  no non sense stance on the  Illegal Alien invasion.
Nobody needed to indoctrinate me to know that anyone who supports the Illegal Alien invasion is a traitor. 
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 5:04 pm » wrote: Even the German Magazine Der Spiegel is running a cover story about the fear of Trump becoming a dictator. Is it just fearmongering? Or is there a real possibility? It mostly depends on Trump but at least Tucker Carlson is saying the Iowa Caucuses weren't fixed. I for one and hopeful about this whole situation. Still, it will probably stay in the conversation throughout this election cycle.
Of course it is...FEARPORN at its finest...Trump the boogeyman...
 
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Monderegal » 19 Jan 2024, 8:22 pm » wrote: A lot of it to is the fact that Affirmative Action et al. were fiercely fought against and then embraced and they kinda kept moving from there. Everything reaches its logical end at some point. I guess the education system is just trying to figure out what to replace it with at this point. Uncharted territory ahead.
Try replacing the wasted time "studying" **** that doesn't matter with more time  spent achieving basic academic proficiency.
Why do Liberals always look for complex solutions where simple ones will do...?
Because that's how they reconcile in their minds why their ideologies and methodologies have repeatedly  failed....
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