Everyone Is Dumping Electric Vehicles...

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20 Jan 2024 11:31 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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21 Jan 2024 12:57 pm
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JustinSane » 21 Jan 2024, 1:51 pm » wrote: Sure. They also have limited resale value. Let's say you sell your EV after 8 years of ownership - the first question from the potential buyer is going to be 'have you had the battery replaced?'  And of course you haven't, because the current battery is still good, and replacement is like 10-15K. So in their head, the buyer is seeing the price you're asking plus 15K within a few years to replace the battery.

So what's your second-hand EV worth? Virtually nothing. People sold their ICE cars (that had lots of driving value left in them) and used the money to purchase an EV - but they can't sell their EV to buy a new EV, as a second-hand EV has no real value, because expected battery life is a mule-kick to the nuts of that resale model. And so the sales of EVs has dried up

This means, ultimately, next to no one can afford an EV... The iPhone purchasing model is not infinitely expandable in our lives - next to no one can afford to buy a car and throw it away a few years later, any more than they can with a house
If you just keep the EV for the life of the car, you'll come out ok.  Same could be said for cars with over 100K miles on them. If you can squeeze 200K miles out of your car, you've done just fine even if you got $0 for it.  So, same goes for EV's.   Someone is going to figure out how to cheaply replace the batteries in certain EV's. 
 
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21 Jan 2024 12:58 pm
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The 775 was my return trip from Cape Canaveral in Oct of 22.  Driving between 80 and 90 on the way home pulling some of the small hills on 95.

The Prev. 1 was my total miles from Nov Thru May 23.  Avg 51.4 mpg.

The 6409 is what I avg from June to the end of Oct.  warmer weather and almost 55 mpg.

This year it has been colder and I will Luck to avg 49.
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:00 pm
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ROG62 » 21 Jan 2024, 1:51 pm » wrote: certainly not a vehicle that'll get stolen....
LOL!  The fact that its a stick shift means it won't get stolen.  Even most mechanics under the age of 40 don't know how to drive a stick shift. I watched one try to pull it into a Tires Plus - The old guy at the desk had to come out and drive it into the bay for the kid who was going to do the tires. :rofl:  
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:00 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 21 Jan 2024, 1:55 pm » wrote: It was funny- my car is a piece of ****. So the guys were teasing me- cyndi- you DO need a baby sitter? Image   i guess a guy would have known better Image   Image   Image   Image
believe you me, they wouldn't...

I did the exact same thing, except it was in the summer in broad daylight...I parked the truck out in the driveway...pulled out of the garage not looking because "nothing is ever back there"...smashed into it...oh, and guess what? Insurance companies don't cover you hitting your own vehicle...I know...I inquired..
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:01 pm
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yea- but suppose it was a decent car? omg i'm under  watch now? lol i never thought of that?
 
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ROG62 » 21 Jan 2024, 2:00 pm » wrote: believe you me, they wouldn't...

I did the exact same thing, except it was in the summer in broad daylight...I parked the truck out in the driveway...pulled out of the garage not looking because "nothing is ever back there"...smashed into it...oh, and guess what? Insurance companies don't cover you hitting your own vehicle...I know...I inquired..
You did? that makes me feel better! :lol:  
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:03 pm
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Huey » 21 Jan 2024, 1:58 pm » wrote: Image

The 775 was my return trip from Cape Canaveral in Oct of 22.  Driving between 80 and 90 on the way home pulling some of the small hills on 95.

The Prev. 1 was my total miles from Nov Thru May 23.  Avg 51.4 mpg.

The 6409 is what I avg from June to the end of Oct.  warmer weather and almost 55 mpg.

This year it has been colder and I will Luck to avg 49.
That's over 2x what my Jeep will get.  I'm lucky if it gets 19.5mpg on the highway.  Plus, I get the added pleasure of picking up another glass-ding/crack every time I drive it 500 miles. The angle of the windshield is such that I have to replace the glass about once every 2 years.  I think I'm on my 6th or 7th windshield.
 
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:04 pm
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Skans » 21 Jan 2024, 1:57 pm » wrote: If you just keep the EV for the life of the car, you'll come out ok.  Same could be said for cars with over 100K miles on them. If you can squeeze 200K miles out of your car, you've done just fine even if you got $0 for it.  So, same goes for EV's.   Someone is going to figure out how to cheaply replace the batteries in certain EV's.
.. I'm not sure you're seeing my point - you're almost reinforcing it. After the initial EV buying frenzy, There's no one left who can buy EVs.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
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21 Jan 2024 1:06 pm
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JustinSane » 21 Jan 2024, 2:04 pm » wrote: .. I'm not sure you're seeing my point - you're almost reinforcing it. After the initial EV buying frenzy, There's no one left who can buy EVs.
Yeah, I'm pretty much agreeing with you.  But, I'm adding that if you buy an EV new and drive the tits off of it, the residual value shouldn't matter.  If you try and trade it in at even 80K miles, you're going to take a bath on it.
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:07 pm
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Skans » 21 Jan 2024, 2:03 pm » wrote: That's over 2x what my Jeep will get.  I'm lucky if it gets 19.5mpg on the highway.  Plus, I get the added pleasure of picking up another glass-ding/crack every time I drive it 500 miles. The angle of the windshield is such that I have to replace the glass about once every 2 years.  I think I'm on my 6th or 7th windshield.
The cool part is you turn off the EV mode If you need to accelerate faster like getting on the highway.
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21 Jan 2024 1:08 pm
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Skans » 21 Jan 2024, 2:00 pm » wrote: LOL!  The fact that its a stick shift means it won't get stolen.  Even most mechanics under the age of 40 don't know how to drive a stick shift. I watched one try to pull it into a Tires Plus - The old guy at the desk had to come out and drive it into the bay for the kid who was going to do the tires. Image
the stick is definitely a deterrent...coupled with the timing thing, 

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sootedupCyndi » 21 Jan 2024, 2:03 pm » wrote: You did? that makes me feel better! Image
I did... :wah:  
 
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JustinSane » 21 Jan 2024, 2:04 pm » wrote: .. I'm not sure you're seeing my point - you're almost reinforcing it. After the initial EV buying frenzy, There's no one left who can buy EVs.
then there's the risk of running into this ****...

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/07/18 ... f-1262030/

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lol :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   i thought it was a woman thing. lol
 
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21 Jan 2024 1:17 pm
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ROG62 » 21 Jan 2024, 2:08 pm » wrote: the stick is definitely a deterrent...coupled with the timing thing, 

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OH SNAP, ITS MY WIFE TRYING TO DRIVE MY JEEP!!! :die:   :rofl:    No, seriously, it's my wife trying to drive my jeep.  She had to borrow it once, I got a call because she was stranded on the freeway - she said

"YOUR BLEEPITY BLEEPING BLEEP IS BROKEN, ITS SPUTTERING, WON'T GO BLEEPITY BLEEP BLEEP YOU BLEEPING NEED A NEW BLEEPING GOD BLEEPIT!!! 

"Honey, just calm down, it always does this - no big.... "

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE FING FFFFFFFF IT ALWAYS WHAT???? WHAT DO I DO?  WHAT DO I DO.

"Sweetie, just turn it off and start it again, it will be just fine
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21 Jan 2024 1:49 pm
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Skans » 21 Jan 2024, 2:17 pm » wrote: OH SNAP, ITS MY WIFE TRYING TO DRIVE MY JEEP!!! Image   Image    No, seriously, it's my wife trying to drive my jeep.  She had to borrow it once, I got a call because she was stranded on the freeway - she said

"YOUR BLEEPITY BLEEPING BLEEP IS BROKEN, ITS SPUTTERING, WON'T GO BLEEPITY BLEEP BLEEP YOU BLEEPING NEED A NEW BLEEPING GOD BLEEPIT!!! 

"Honey, just calm down, it always does this - no big.... "

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE FING FFFFFFFF IT ALWAYS WHAT???? WHAT DO I DO?  WHAT DO I DO.

"Sweetie, just turn it off and start it again, it will be just fine
Geez...we married to the same woman?
 
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