Is Israel commtting genocide in Gaza?

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By Monderegal
21 Jan 2024 11:42 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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21 Jan 2024 11:15 pm
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Monderegal » 21 Jan 2024, 12:42 pm » wrote: According to South Africa they are. The African nation has even brought the case to the Hauge on the accusation of war crimes. Just a few thoughts. First is the brutal cold blooded murder of 1400 innocent civilians by Hamas. Second is the reasoning by South Africa that the internment of Gaza is a form of Apartheid. Both of these are arguably true but there is also the fact that the claim of genocide actually became international law due to the Holocaust. Strangely enough.
Israel was NOT killing ANYONE... UNTIL Hamas launched a SNEAK Attack into Israel, and STARTED this ENTIRE thing... an INCURSION where Hamas BUTCHERED 1500 Israeli Citizens, TOOK 250 more captive (many of which are now DEAD), and NUMEROUS others were raped, shot, and/or LEFT for dead... BY Hamas !

I think South Africa can go SCREW themselves... Israel has the RIGHT to FIGHT this war as LONG as they WANT, and to KILL as MANY Hamas SOB's as they CAN... AND ALL of them if POSSIBLE !   WHAT the HELL does South Africa have to with this ANYWAY? 

Israel lived thru the Holocaust,,, which was started by Nazi Germany... HOWEVER, the Palestinians (and most of the Muslim Nations) were ALLIED with Nazi Germany during WW2...  WHICH means that they WERE, and probably still are an extension of the Anti Semitic Nazis,,, which to me means that THEY got off easy after WW2, and now, NEED to pay the price for 80 YEARS of WHO and WHAT they are... TO HELL with them !

Let Israel CLEAN OUT the Rats Nest... the WORLD will be better !!
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Monderegal » 21 Jan 2024, 12:42 pm » wrote: According to South Africa they are. The African nation has even brought the case to the Hauge on the accusation of war crimes. Just a few thoughts. First is the brutal cold blooded murder of 1400 innocent civilians by Hamas. Second is the reasoning by South Africa that the internment of Gaza is a form of Apartheid. Both of these are arguably true but there is also the fact that the claim of genocide actually became international law due to the Holocaust. Strangely enough.
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Monderegal » 21 Jan 2024, 12:42 pm » wrote: According to South Africa they are. The African nation has even brought the case to the Hauge on the accusation of war crimes. Just a few thoughts. First is the brutal cold blooded murder of 1400 innocent civilians by Hamas. Second is the reasoning by South Africa that the internment of Gaza is a form of Apartheid. Both of these are arguably true but there is also the fact that the claim of genocide actually became international law due to the Holocaust. Strangely enough.
So what? Now South Africa gets to govern New World Order?
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I wrote, "[The Palestinian's counterattack of 10.07.23] is reminiscent of Turtle Island's Tuscarora War, in which Tuscarora 'Indians' repeatedly razed squatter settlements and killed settler colonialists/squatters, including women and children in the Province of Carolina, as well as in other places. That type of thing is never a good thing, but it is the sort that naturally occurs in a settler colonial/squatter dynamic."

In reaction, RebelGator wrote: "No, it is not what typically occurs, but the difference causes the master/slave dynamic."

As Turtle Island's Tuscarora War and many other such incidents demonstrate, the killing of women and children by typically subjugated colonized people is indeed what often happens in settler colonial/squatter projects. One could center a Ph.D. dissertation or even a lengthy book on the massacres understandably committed by native peoples against settler colonialists in the U.S., Australia, Canada, Algeria, and other settler colonial projects. They number in the thousands. 

"...but the difference causes the master/slave dynamic." 

The cause of the master/slave dynamic is nothing other than chattel slavery, which, throughout the past five hundred years, has been driven by capitalism and its pre-historical formation of mercantilism. Nothing else creates the master/slave dynamic. Chattel slavery was central to the primitive accumulation that made the capitalist system possible, without which capitalism would not been able to come to fruition. 

RebelGator: "Your attempt at excusing genocidal behavior is noted..."

To assert that my support of Palestinians somehow constitutes approval of genocide is akin to alleging that native Americans or native Australians who defended themselves against their respective settler colonialists committed genocide. It is an absurdity and a form of projection of the highest order. While lacking aircraft, watercraft, tanks, nuclear weapons, and the backing of the U.S., the Palestinians, with or without Hamas, are materially incapable of engaging in genocide. Palestinians haven't the ability to do anything of the like, and the Zionist States' supporters know it. 

Indeed, the Palestine/Israel impasse cannot accurately be described as a war, let alone a genocide being carried out by Palestinians. It is a wholly one-sided and cowardly slaughter - a slow-motion genocide perpetrated by the world's fourth-largest military against a group of impoverished and mostly defenseless human beings. That is why Zionists and their supporters of various stripes, including Christian Zionists, endeavor to dehumanize Palestinians, thereby attempting to justify their hideous behavior. But, in doing so, they merely dehumanize themselves. 
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Monderegal » 21 Jan 2024, 12:42 pm » wrote: According to South Africa they are. The African nation has even brought the case to the Hauge on the accusation of war crimes. Just a few thoughts. First is the brutal cold blooded murder of 1400 innocent civilians by Hamas. Second is the reasoning by South Africa that the internment of Gaza is a form of Apartheid. Both of these are arguably true but there is also the fact that the claim of genocide actually became international law due to the Holocaust. Strangely enough.
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Israel should pay the way for all the Palis' that want to move to South Africa.
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The 1994 Rwanda attacks by the Hutus' on the Tutsis' was a genocide.  The definition of genocide is when you are talking about wanting to wipe out a WHOLE group of people.[/i]  So in other words the ultraliberals have moved the distinct meaningful element of speech / writing goalpost again; to suit thier agenda. 
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This is from another site: (I am one smart MOFO-I knew the word was Greek and Latin in origin)
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The word “genocide” was first coined by Polish lawyer Raphäel Lemkin in 1944 in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.
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Genocide was first recognized as a crime under international law in 1946 by the United Nations General Assembly of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”

...To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. [/i]
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Good article but you need to get King Solom on the phone because...no where does it say anything about between waring nations, when you get down to splitting hairs.

 
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anyone wish to find out where over 85% of the human population lives in the Northern Hemisphere so why listen to 15% of the population in the Southern Hemisphere.

Gee could it be majority of the land mass above water is in the northern. Damn that tilted axis rotating planet with opposing seasons each rotation of the planet daylight is achieved facing the star of its solar system.

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DeezerShoove » 21 Jan 2024, 6:34 pm » wrote: The Nuremberg Genius Bar says:

Genocide -  Any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
            Using this definition, pretty much every country (including our own) involved in WW2 and a great many other wars fought throughout history could be construed as having committed Genocide.... 
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Kobia2 » 22 Jan 2024, 12:20 pm » wrote:             Using this definition, pretty much every country (including our own) involved in WW2 and a great many other wars fought throughout history could be construed as having committed Genocide.... 

That's probably why the United States isn't a party in the Hauge convention.
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Sumela » 21 Jan 2024, 5:27 pm » wrote: The West's favorite pasttime...

murdering brown kids.

Even *** Bammy in his service

as a House Negro for Empire.
A very respectable pastime when it comes to the Gazans.
 
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Monderegal » 22 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm » wrote: That's probably why the United States isn't a party in the Hauge convention.
Haji needs to die.
 
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Skans » 22 Jan 2024, 12:35 pm » wrote: A very respectable pastime when it comes to the Gazans.
Or NY *** in sky scrapers :lol:  
 
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Monderegal » 22 Jan 2024, 12:33 pm » wrote: That's probably why the United States isn't a party in the Hauge convention.
           The United States is a signatory to the Hague Convention.... 
 
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Sumela » 22 Jan 2024, 12:39 pm » wrote: Or NY *** in sky scrapers Image
Haji F-ed around.  Haji find out.ImageImage
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Skans » 22 Jan 2024, 12:45 pm » wrote: Haji F-ed around.  Haji find out. HAJI CAR-B-Q
Settle down Tough Guy Skanny...
 
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Sumela » 22 Jan 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: Settle down Tough Guy Skanny...
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Skans » 22 Jan 2024, 1:06 pm » wrote: Image
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Kobia2 » 22 Jan 2024, 12:20 pm » wrote:             Using this definition, pretty much every country (including our own) involved in WW2 and a great many other wars fought throughout history could be construed as having committed Genocide.... 

I know.
Might as well have said, "War is unpleasant. Try to avoid it."

That's how design-by-committee works.
Mealy-mouthed, vacuous mission statements to not offend, or exclude, or include, etc.
People will always battle and to pretend the "cause" makes ALL the difference wears me out.
Seems that how the victors treat the vanquished is almost as important as why the **** started.

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Kobia2 » 22 Jan 2024, 12:43 pm » wrote:            The United States is a signatory to the Hague Convention.... 
Sorry, I got it confused with the Rome Statute that formed the ICC.
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