Can Democrats win over Christian votes?

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By Monderegal
23 Jan 2024 5:41 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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24 Jan 2024 12:30 pm
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Skans » 24 Jan 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: You still do not get it.  Christianity, comprised of individuals who affiliate with various Christ-centered religions as well as non-affiliated people who accept Christ as their lord and savior.  It is the spiritual/religious dimension of an individual's life.  It has little if nothing to do with patriotism, service to country, politics, most political beliefs, gun-rights, land-rights, personal property, wealth, freedom of speech, immigration, laws, law enforcement, taxes, trade treaties, etc.

People who believe in Jesus Christ have many varying views when it comes to these things.  Your OP "Can Democrats win over Christian votes" is a non-starter.  It presupposes that there are no Christians who support Democrat candidates.  That's wrong.

It also presupposes that those who accept Christ, which is still  over 70% of American Citizens, all believe in the same things.  So, if Democrats are trying to win over "Christian Votes", I suggest that this demographic is far too diverse to encapsulate.  Its like asking "can Democrats win over the White vote?"  No political party can be all things to all Christians.

Also, if you don't believe my 70% number, here is my evidence:

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I guess I'm targeting that White Evangelical Protest vote when I over generalize with the "Christian" vote. I'm also talking about "values" voters and yes it's an over generalization. Both groups often lean Republican. 
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24 Jan 2024 12:57 pm
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Monderegal » 24 Jan 2024, 1:30 pm » wrote: I guess I'm targeting that White Evangelical Protest vote when I over generalize with the "Christian" vote. I'm also talking about "values" voters and yes it's an over generalization. Both groups often lean Republican.
 
White Evangelicals.  That does narrow it down some.  The truth is, Democrats cannot get their votes.  The Democrat party platform will never dovetail with the views of White Evangelicals.  The best Democrats can hope for when it comes to White Evangelicals is a "stale mate".  Try to convince them not to go out and vote for the Republican.  This segment is notorious for having an undetermined percentage that will not vote. Those who do vote, will vote 80% for the Republican candidate.  If I were a Democrat strategist, and I was targeting this segment, I would do what I could to convince a sliver of that 80% to "sit the election out", based on moral conviction.
 
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24 Jan 2024 1:01 pm
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Sumela » 23 Jan 2024, 8:37 pm » wrote: The "commandments" are for the Jews you **** Image

I'm actually a Latter Day Saint and our scripture teaches us to follow the commandments and put your faith in Jesus Christ.
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24 Jan 2024 1:02 pm
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Skans » 24 Jan 2024, 1:57 pm » wrote: White Evangelicals.  That does narrow it down some.  The truth is, Democrats cannot get their votes.  The Democrat party platform will never dovetail with the views of White Evangelicals.  The best Democrats can hope for when it comes to White Evangelicals is a "stale mate".  Try to convince them not to go out and vote for the Republican.  This segment is notorious for having an undetermined percentage that will not vote. Those who do vote, will vote 80% for the Republican candidate.  If I were a Democrat strategist, and I was targeting this segment, I would do what I could to convince a sliver of that 80% to "sit the election out", based on moral conviction.

The Catholic vote usually splits due to the death penalty and abortion. Both are opposed by the Vatican but that was 20 years ago when I was taught in a Catholic high school.
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24 Jan 2024 1:27 pm
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Monderegal » 24 Jan 2024, 2:02 pm » wrote: The Catholic vote usually splits due to the death penalty and abortion. Both are opposed by the Vatican but that was 20 years ago when I was taught in a Catholic high school.
I am very well aware of that.  I won't get into the debate about whether Catholics are Christians or not (there's a real debate to be had there) - I'm just going to acknowledge that they are.  Look, there are many different Christian faiths, and many Christians who do not necessarily identify with a particular faith.  I think trying to figure out who will vote for which candidate based on their religion is a mistake.  Politics and Religion often do not mix (unless you're a member of an AME church).
 
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24 Jan 2024 1:33 pm
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Monderegal » 24 Jan 2024, 2:01 pm » wrote: I'm actually a Latter Day Saint and our scripture teaches us to follow the commandments and put your faith in Jesus Christ.
Good luck :LOL:  
 
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