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Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 8:37 am

Here is the scenario,

A woman is home with her three children.  The husband is at work.  An intruder attempts to kick in the front door and has a knife.  The women and children hide in the closet.  When the intruder fails to kick in the door he drives his car thru the dining room wall and then searches the house. He finds the family in the closet.  The woman shoots the guy in the arm and the family lives. 

The man is a convicted felon who is also out on bond for a gun charge.

In the world of the anti gunnuters left the women and three children are dead because the woman would not have had the firearm.

In the minds of **** heads like BV the woman should be arrested for discharging a firearm that  exposed her kids to the toxic effects of gun powder smoke, permanent eye injury from the blinding muzzle flash, and for the "reckless endangerment of her next door neighbors with errant bullets that could have penetrated her walls and killed the people in the house next door. 
In BV's mind she should also serve time for   killing an  attacker who suffers from a previously diagnosed mental condition that renders him unable to control his mood swings...           
 

R.Suave » 25 Jan 2024, 2:22 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:22 pm

Your "answers" were wrong, *******

https://time.com/6183881/gun-ownership-risks-at-home/

Concerning the scenario the answers are correct.  I hope you read the entire post.  That "scenario" happened a couple of days ago, *******.  

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 11:10 am

A:  0

B:  100%

https://www.fox8live.com/2024/01/23/mot ... r-bravery/

Mother shoots home intruder to protect 3 children; sheriff commends her bravery

Your  Turn
What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

 
 
 
 
 

 

@R. Suave  

You have unanswered questions.  Concerning your questions about the SCENARIO they were correctly answered. 

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:​​​​​​​

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:08 pm

Nah.  I forgot the link.  They have had 13 mass murders since the ban went to into affect following the Port Arthur shootings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... _Australia

No they have not had 13 mass murders since Port Aurthur. Let's break down your claim and the link you provide for your support:

• Port Aurthur resulted in 35 deaths - this can be categorized as a "mass murder", where someone without any connection to the victims just wanted to go on a killing spree
• There have only been 6 instances in Australia since 1996 involving someone killing more than 5 people. Two of the largest incidences were arson attacks. A couple of others were vehicle attacks and stabbing attacks. 
• There has not been anything even close to the Port Arthur attack since Australia enacted confiscatory gun bans.

So, Australia's gun ban worked - it stopped mass murders anything similar to Port Arthur. 
 

Skans » 25 Jan 2024, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:30 pm

No they have not had 13 mass murders since Port Aurthur. Let's break down your claim and the link you provide for your support:

• Port Aurthur resulted in 35 deaths - this can be categorized as a "mass murder", where someone without any connection to the victims just wanted to go on a killing spree
• There have only been 6 instances in Australia since 1996 involving someone killing more than 5 people. Two of the largest incidences were arson attacks. A couple of others were vehicle attacks and stabbing attacks. 
• There has not been anything even close to the Port Arthur attack since Australia enacted confiscatory gun bans.

So, Australia's gun ban worked - it stopped mass murders anything similar to Port Arthur. 
 

 

So Australia bought back around 650,000 semi automatic firearms and implemented laws making it much harder to buy the others.  We have an estimated 400,000 million (all guns) in circulation.  I don't how many are semi automatic.  That is a lot of money.  As far as the regulations we would probably have to pass a constitutional amendment to do.  At this point in our history that will not happen.

So did their ban work?  Possibly. 

 

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 3:51 pm

So Australia bought back around 650,000 semi automatic firearms and implemented laws making it much harder to buy the others.  We have an estimated 400,000 million (all guns) in circulation.  I don't how many are semi automatic.  That is a lot of money.  As far as the regulations we would probably have to pass a constitutional amendment to do.  At this point in our history that will not happen.

So did their ban work?  Possibly.

Well you brought up Australia's ban, and I pointed out that the ban actually did work to stop mass shootings. If you want to jump over to the United States, a ban of semi-autos would look more like this:

• Require that all semi-autos be registered
• Outlaw magazines over 5 rounds
• Prohibit the manufacture, sale or transfer of Semi-autos.  When someone dies, the semi-auto would have to be destroyed (it's not confiscation if you never owned it)

In 30 years, most semi-auto guns would be destroyed.  Then, the government could afford to confiscate and pay for the rest to be destroyed.
 

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:27 pm

Concerning the scenario the answers are correct.  I hope you read the entire post.  That "scenario" happened a couple of days ago, *******.

People living with handgun owners died by homicide at twice the rate of their neighbors in gun-free homes. That difference was driven largely by homicides at home, which were three times more common among people living with handgun owners.
 We detected much larger differences for particular types of homicide. Most notably, people living with handgun owners were seven times more likely to be shot by their spouse or intimate partner. In many of these cases, instead of being protective, the household gun probably operated as the instrument of death.

Ibid.


Remember....you're innumerate

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:29 pm

@R. Suave  

You have unanswered questions.  Concerning your questions about the SCENARIO they were correctly answered. 

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

Tiny,

You are estranged, not only from numbers, but letters.

Never assume you are clever.

You're not.

​​​​​​​You're a moron.
 

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 8:37 am

Here is the scenario,

A woman is home with her three children.  The husband is at work.  An intruder attempts to kick in the front door and has a knife.  The women and children hide in the closet.  When the intruder fails to kick in the door he drives his car thru the dining room wall and then searches the house. He finds the family in the closet.  The woman shoots the guy in the arm and the family lives. 

The man is a convicted felon who is also out on bond for a gun charge.

In the world of the anti gunnuters left the women and three children are dead because the woman would not have had the firearm.

Here's the reality

"Around 4.5 million women in the United States have been threatened with a gun, and nearly 1 million women have been shot or shot at by an intimate partner.  Over half of all intimate partner homicides are committed with guns. Indeed, a woman is five times more likely to be murdered when her abuser has access to a gun"

https://efsgv.org/learn/type-of-gun-vio ... 20a%20gun.
 

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 2:29 pm

@R. Suave  

You have unanswered questions. 
 

What else is new...

 
 

R.Suave » 25 Jan 2024, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 5:38 pm

People living with handgun owners died by homicide at twice the rate of their neighbors in gun-free homes. That difference was driven largely by homicides at home, which were three times more common among people living with handgun owners.
 We detected much larger differences for particular types of homicide. Most notably, people living with handgun owners were seven times more likely to be shot by their spouse or intimate partner. In many of these cases, instead of being protective, the household gun probably operated as the instrument of death.

Ibid.

Remember....you're innumerate

You wouldn’t know.  Inever Discussed your diversion.

You are running from questions…..AGAIN.

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

R.Suave » 25 Jan 2024, 5:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 5:44 pm

Tiny,

You are estranged, not only from numbers, but letters.

Never assume you are clever.

You're not.

You're a moron.

Tiny Feet,What did you say about you always answering questions?

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

 

R.Suave » 25 Jan 2024, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 6:51 pm

Here's the reality

"Around 4.5 million women in the United States have been threatened with a gun, and nearly 1 million women have been shot or shot at by an intimate partner.  Over half of all intimate partner homicides are committed with guns. Indeed, a woman is five times more likely to be murdered when her abuser has access to a gun"

https://efsgv.org/learn/type-of-gun-vio ... 20a%20gun.

The women in the OP you criticized was threatened with a knife.  As well as her kids.  She handled the situation just fine.


Your words:

The OP is a Monument to *******.

You are saying the woman is a ******* for saving her and her kids lives.


Why are you afraid of this question?  Asshole progs like you can’t handle it when real life meets your fairyland agenda.  And then you are AFRAID TO DISCUSS YOUR AGENDA.

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

RedheadedStranger » 25 Jan 2024, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 7:33 pm

What else is new...

@R. Suave   is running as faster than a guy getting peppered sprayed in his own driveway.  

Huey » 26 Jan 2024, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 6:13 am

@R. Suave   is running as faster than a guy getting peppered sprayed in his own driveway.

is running as faster than a guy

How can one run "as faster" as anyone?

getting peppered sprayed in his own driveway.

How faster is that?

I wouldn't have any idea. Being a Man, I stand and TCB.

R.Suave » 26 Jan 2024, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:29 am

How can one run "as faster" as anyone?

How faster is that?

I wouldn't have any idea. Being a Man, I stand and TCB.

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

Huey » 26 Jan 2024, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 8:36 am

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

Runny from your words, Runny.

Huey » 26 Jan 2024, 6:11 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 6:11 am

The women in the OP you criticized was threatened with a knife.  As well as her kids.  She handled the situation just fine.

Your words:

The OP is a Monument to *******.

You are saying the woman is a ******* for saving her and her kids lives.

Why are you afraid of this question?  Asshole progs like you can’t handle it when real life meets your fairyland agenda.  And then you are AFRAID TO DISCUSS YOUR AGENDA.

The women

as faster than.

1 Woman

1 Million Women.


Ya follah?

R.Suave » 26 Jan 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jan 2024, 9:06 am

Runny from your words, Runny.

 

 

What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

2nd day. 

I stand by my OP.

Huey » 25 Jan 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jan 2024, 11:10 am

A:  0

B:  100%

https://www.fox8live.com/2024/01/23/mot ... r-bravery/

Mother shoots home intruder to protect 3 children; sheriff commends her bravery

Your  Turn
What is more important?  The lives of the mother and 3 children OR your agenda to disarm Americans?:

 
 
 
 
 

 

@R. Suave  

It seems I correctly answered your questions about the OP despite your attempts to hijack the thread.