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By LowIQTrash
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One of the questions that American quarterwits may have wondered is why so many countries, both today and through past eons, have accepted kings, emperors, and "dictators" as their sovereign(s).

Why would they agree to despotic rule, when freeDUMB and democracy were viable alternatives?

Of course, quarterwits will either

1) never bother to investigate further or
2) accept some stupid explanation like "they're just not civilized like us"

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Rent seeking (RS): a primer

Before I answer that question, let me reiterate a point I have made for many years.

Any society that wishes to prosper in the long run must minimize the amount of "Rent seeking" taking place. Now if you look up the definition through Wikipedia, Wiki will say that rent-seeking means using the government in order to grant you favors/privileges. However, that's an insufficient definition.

A better definition of RS is what National Socialist poster extraordinaire Mefobills calls "sordid gain." When a transaction takes place between two parties, there is usually the expectation of parity. I pay you something, and you pay me back something roughly equivalent in "value".


Due to market inefficiencies (as well as phenomena like price discrimination, currency fluctuation, wage arbitrage, one party simply being better at negotiating/communicating/deceiving/using slimy sales tactics, etc.) of course, there will always be some sleight-of-hand going on and one side will "get ahead." 


[ As an aside...just ask anyone who works in M&A if the "market" is "efficient" and "rational"...giggles

https://ir.law.utk.edu/cgi/viewcontent. ... ansactions

@R. Suave should already be familiar with this myth and its nonsense esp. when it comes to corporate mergers.

But in case he isn't, allow me to reproduce this little gem:
After considering a number of possible non-psychological alternative hypotheses, they present data showing that the 52 week high exerts a strongly disproportionate effect on deal outcomes, which they attribute largely to the target’s psychology and the bidder’s anticipation thereof
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The problem is when a small cadre of oligarchs, monopolists, magnates, whatever you want to call them - perfect this "art"  and turn it into a science.

They will continue "extracting" value from society while providing nothing comparable in return. 

 
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Part 2

Idiocracy doesn't resolve any problems...ever

Americans have this sacred belief that democratism and its cousin republicanism are the best inventions since sliced, home-baked bread. 

The concept behind democracy is rather simple...

1) People, through free exchange of ideas, will become "Well informed"
2) "Well informed" people will then make good decisions (that benefit the whole country) by casting their votes for politicians/laws that align with their "well informed" views

Unfortunately...as well sounding as this is...is nothing but a laughable trope.


1) might be true if there were indeed "free exchange" of ideas...but (((our friends))) discovered a long time ago, centuries even, that propaganda pays for itself in spades. 

Hence, instead of having what we might consider "reasonable" and "well-informed" debates as the Greeks themselves envisioned...we have a bunch of squabbling retards, most of whom have absorbed nothing into their permeable heads other than lies spread by (((them))).

"The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." ~ Churchill

2) is just laughable...let's see, we have ONE of the most "educated" populations on planet Earth (hundreds of billions spent every yr on education, plenty of KOLLIJ duh-greez, etc.) and yet...

The typical voter who believes himself/herself to be "knowledgeable" about politics cannot even define terms like "capitalism," "socialism," "liberalism," "fascism," etc.

And even if these voters are capable of identifying the problems plaguing society (low wages, sky-high cost of living, **** HC system, poisoning the skies with Chem Trails :LOL:  ,etc.) their "solutions" are usually laughable.


But, of course...this is all assuming the voter(s) even had a real choice to begin with.

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You get to vote for/against politicians...but you never have a choice of voting out the "Rent Seekers" (who are the real problem)

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." ~ Emma Goldman, anarchist

As hinted previously, RSers not only "extract value" from society but also change the laws to benefit themselves. In other words, EVEN IF the voters were indeed truly "well informed" (which I already explained is not the case - maybe it WAS the case in 1836 when they lined up behind Andrew Jackson who killed the 2nd  bank), it is unlikely they would be able to dislodge them from their positions. 


You DON'T get a choice of voting out the parasites. You DON'T get a choice in voting out the criminals on Wall Street.


So naturally, the only solution is...of course to look elsewhere.

Assume that, maybe democracy/republican form of government is not the answer?

Hmm...perhaps that solution is "dictatorship?"

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30 Jan 2024 2:47 am
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Part 3 (Final)

After decades (or even centuries) of endless swindling, debt slavery, and parasitism, the people generally get fed up by the status quo. And this is when a natural-born leader arises from the crowd. 

His mandate? "Do away" with the oligarchs, parasites, or whatever you want to call them. 

Dictatorship has its fair share of problems. I will not deny that. However, the situation (as I described) necessitates some sort of "relief valve." Often times these oligarchs take their countries to war (directing their problems to the outside) as a way to resolve internal disputes. Sometimes these attempts to distract/pull the wool over the eyes of the public fail, which causes the "organic uprising" mentioned previously. 

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Liberal-based propaganda points out how "dictatorships" ignore rule of law, suppress freeDUMB of the press, etc. 

However, what is never explained is why this happens. When there is indeed some kind of organic change under way, oligarchs, of course, will resist by whatever means necessary. They will use their corrupt influence to skirt laws, spread all sorts of propaganda via media outlets, and use kangaroo courts to elicit outcomes favorable to them. 

Such undertakings are hardly rainbows and sunshine...but when you're dealing with "seriously entrenched" interests this is the price you pay.

(Sadly, American "quarterwits" don't seem to be able to understand this.

Kind of like how they keep voting for people who say they will "roll back the Patriot Act" and said politicians never end up doing it.

Americans = retards)


 
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LowIQTrash » 30 Jan 2024, 2:25 am » wrote: One of the questions that American quarterwits may have wondered is why so many countries, both today and through past eons, have accepted kings, emperors, and "dictators" as their sovereign(s).

Why would they agree to despotic rule, when freeDUMB and democracy were viable alternatives?

Of course, quarterwits will either

1) never bother to investigate further or
2) accept some stupid explanation like "they're just not civilized like us"

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Rent seeking (RS): a primer

Before I answer that question, let me reiterate a point I have made for many years.

Any society that wishes to prosper in the long run must minimize the amount of "Rent seeking" taking place. Now if you look up the definition through Wikipedia, Wiki will say that rent-seeking means using the government in order to grant you favors/privileges. However, that's an insufficient definition.

A better definition of RS is what National Socialist poster extraordinaire Mefobills calls "sordid gain." When a transaction takes place between two parties, there is usually the expectation of parity. I pay you something, and you pay me back something roughly equivalent in "value".


Due to market inefficiencies (as well as phenomena like price discrimination, currency fluctuation, wage arbitrage, one party simply being better at negotiating/communicating/deceiving/using slimy sales tactics, etc.) of course, there will always be some sleight-of-hand going on and one side will "get ahead." 




They will continue "extracting" value from society while providing nothing comparable in return. 

 
halfwits, quarterwits, midwits, dimwits, nitwits, witless, no witness. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

ETA vs ATE creating ETD.

Established Time Arriving vs Actual Time Evolving vs Estimated Time Departure. Relative Time Logistics factually comparing ideas people follow cradle to grave as lived so far. Legislative rule of law is Intellectual Tyranny, the IT that never was real but every reality is governed within IT each ancestor adopting a character role of a lifetime after birth or else.

When does free will become socially accepted? When conceived, after birth, before parenting another generation, after dying? Traditional values come with DNA or social identity adopted since birth?

No great great grandchild asked to be born and every ancestry demands last generation uphold ideas practiced historically todate or face shunning by family, exile by community theater, executed for not obeying traditional beliefs(facts) held as all anyone needs to know saving tomorrows planned out yesterday factually arriving here today.

Time management of everyone since birth until dead via vernacular tribalism. When does free will command fellowships to self anointed experts educating each generation life isn't self evidently adapting as timed apart ancestrally here now?

Rhetorical questions for instinctive brains because a social mind never accepts ancestors are self evidently living as eternally separated reproductions occupying the moment here in series parallel lifetimes never same details twice when now here since conceived to replace previous ancestry or extinction arrived with no more great great grandchildren born again adding another generation gap to what was established so far.
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As I understand it, you just developed a nasty depiction of NEO-LIBERALISAM.Where the Oligarchs turn subjects into DEBTOR SLAVES.  Where nothing beautiful or awe inspiring is ever built for the PEOPLE as that would be Communism!As Tucker said recently....""all we build anymore are ugly boxes to live in and shop in"". Where Corps and Capitalists are WORSHIPPED and benefit the most from NeoLiberlism,and its many gifts to the elites....while the average Joe must "pull himself up by his bootstraps!!""Cities are stripped to the bone financially as the capital rises TO THE TOP. Its filthy and diseased.  The US is decades behind China.
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 11:58 am » wrote: As I understand it, you just developed a nasty depiction of NEO-LIBERALISAM.Where the Oligarchs turn subjects into DEBTOR SLAVES.  Where nothing beautiful or awe inspiring is ever built for the PEOPLE as that would be Communism!As Tucker said recently....""all we build anymore are ugly boxes to live in and shop in"". Where Corps and Capitalists are WORSHIPPED and benefit the most from NeoLiberlism,and its many gifts to the elites....while the average Joe must "pull himself up by his bootstraps!!""Cities are stripped to the bone financially as the capital rises TO THE TOP. It’s filthy and diseased.  The US is decades behind China.
The above is the Battle cry of the Nationalist Socialist.

The state must take care of the people! Workers of the world unite! Built something pretty to placate the miserable masses! Damn the individualist! There is no God!
 
YOU are filfthy and diseased.
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Tempest62 » 30 Jan 2024, 12:11 pm » wrote: The above is the Battle cry of the Nationalist Socialist.

The state must take care of the people! Workers of the world unite! Built something pretty to placate the miserable masses! Damn the individualist! There is no God!
 
YOU are filfthy and diseased.
No, America is filthy and diseased....and its only the beginning.
West style Capitalism is eating itself :wave:  
 
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LowIQTrash » 30 Jan 2024, 3:47 am » wrote: Part 3 (Final)

After decades (or even centuries) of endless swindling, debt slavery, and parasitism, the people generally get fed up by the status quo. And this is when a natural-born leader arises from the crowd. 

His mandate? "Do away" with the oligarchs, parasites, or whatever you want to call them. 

Dictatorship has its fair share of problems. I will not deny that. However, the situation (as I described) necessitates some sort of "relief valve." Often times these oligarchs take their countries to war (directing their problems to the outside) as a way to resolve internal disputes. Sometimes these attempts to distract/pull the wool over the eyes of the public fail, which causes the "organic uprising" mentioned previously. 

---------------------------------------------------------

Liberal-based propaganda points out how "dictatorships" ignore rule of law, suppress freeDUMB of the press, etc. 

However, what is never explained is why this happens. When there is indeed some kind of organic change under way, oligarchs, of course, will resist by whatever means necessary. They will use their corrupt influence to skirt laws, spread all sorts of propaganda via media outlets, and use kangaroo courts to elicit outcomes favorable to them. 

Such undertakings are hardly rainbows and sunshine...but when you're dealing with "seriously entrenched" interests this is the price you pay.

(Sadly, American "quarterwits" don't seem to be able to understand this.

Kind of like how they keep voting for people who say they will "roll back the Patriot Act" and said politicians never end up doing it.

Americans = retards)
Could you furnish us with your list of political office seekers that a "Full Wit" such as yourself heartily  endorses...?
Just the top 100 of your recommendations  that we as a people can choose to be our  governors and representatives.
 
 
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 30 Jan 2024, 12:45 pm » wrote: Could you furnish us with your list of political office seekers that a "Full Wit" such as yourself heartily  endorses...?
Just the top 100 of your recommendations  that we as a people can choose to be our  governors and representatives.
Likely an impossible task to find 20
 
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 1:33 pm » wrote: Likely an impossible task to find 20
To effectively meet his criteria I think ZERO is the most realistic number.
You can't vote your way out of the existing power structure that he's railing against.
You can't even NUKE your way out of it.
It's naive to think that if only we did a better job of voting then the Jew World Order Establishment would cease to exist.
That if only we did a better job of voting,  the [[[JWO]]] would have no choice but to surrender  their control of every major US institution back to the Goyim.   Image  

 
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 30 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm » wrote: To effectively meet his criteria I think ZERO is the most realistic number.
You can't vote your way out of the existing power structure that he's railing against.
You can't even NUKE your way out of it.
It's naive to think that if only we did a better job of voting then the Jew World Order Establishment would cease to exist.
That if only we did a better job of voting,  the [[[JWO]]] would have no choice but to surrender  their control of every major US institution back to the Goyim.   Image
You make valid points for sure.
Im not sure he believes anything can change by voting.  I dont.
I think LowIQ just likes to highlight how we got here and what could have been better.
I may be wrong.
 
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 11:58 am » wrote: As I understand it, you just developed a nasty depiction of NEO-LIBERALISAM.Where the Oligarchs turn subjects into DEBTOR SLAVES.  Where nothing beautiful or awe inspiring is ever built for the PEOPLE as that would be Communism!As Tucker said recently....""all we build anymore are ugly boxes to live in and shop in"". Where Corps and Capitalists are WORSHIPPED and benefit the most from NeoLiberlism,and its many gifts to the elites....while the average Joe must "pull himself up by his bootstraps!!""Cities are stripped to the bone financially as the capital rises TO THE TOP. Its filthy and diseased.  The US is decades behind China.
Believing in the idea anything is socially possible leaves everyone outside of understanding the one thing that never happens. Tomorrow being more than a metaphor for a rotating planet moving by event horizons that never change position while the universe is limited to everything proportionately occupying the moment here.
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Alright make Gavin newsome dictator. You talked me into it.
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: You make valid points for sure.
Im not sure he believes anything can change by voting.  I dont.
I think LowIQ just likes to highlight how we got here and what could have been better.
I may be wrong.

He's grousing too.
There's a lot of that here.

The solutions are always a laugh:
  Vote them out.
  Don't like the law then change it.
  Move to that better country.
  Etc.
Not much to work with there. So we grouse a lot.

Then complain that one guy's grousing isn't up to par. Grouse better.
:rofl:   :wave:  
Please seat yourself.

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Tempest62 » 30 Jan 2024, 12:11 pm » wrote:
The state must take care of the people!
If that is not the purpose of the state, what WOULD be the purpose of the state?
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

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GHETTOBLASTER » 30 Jan 2024, 12:45 pm » wrote: Could you furnish us with your list of political office seekers that a "Full Wit" such as yourself heartily  endorses...?
Just the top 100 of your recommendations  that we as a people can choose to be our  governors and representatives.
The parties screen such people out - their names never make the ballots.

Look what they are trying to do to trump - and most people don't have his money and exposure to fight back with. 

The rank and file dems NEVER wanted hitlery - EVER. Not in 08, when they said in a loud voice, "We'd rather have a *** than this bitch." Not in 16, when they said - and were shut down, - "We'd rather have  a socialist JEW than this bitch."
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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GHETTOBLASTER » 30 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm » wrote: To effectively meet his criteria I think ZERO is the most realistic number.
You can't vote your way out of the existing power structure that he's railing against.
You can't even NUKE your way out of it.
It's naive to think that if only we did a better job of voting then the Jew World Order Establishment would cease to exist.
That if only we did a better job of voting,  the [[[JWO]]] would have no choice but to surrender  their control of every major US institution back to the Goyim.   Image
Given his apologia for dictatorship, I suspect you are echoing his thesis. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: You make valid points for sure.
Im not sure he believes anything can change by voting.  I dont.
I think LowIQ just likes to highlight how we got here and what could have been better.
I may be wrong.
You're not wrong. His thesis is clearly calling for a strong man to get the people behind him and overthrow not just the oligarchy, but its institutions - including its corrupted legal system. He's calling for smashing the system. In all but name, he evoked the Russian Revolution. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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DeezerShoove » 30 Jan 2024, 11:00 pm » wrote: He's grousing too.
There's a lot of that here.

The solutions are always a laugh:
  Vote them out.
  Don't like the law then change it.
  Move to that better country.
  Etc.
Not much to work with there. So we grouse a lot.

Then complain that one guy's grousing isn't up to par. Grouse better.
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Yeah, but your grousing really isn't up to par.

You really do need to grouse better. Some pushups wouldn't hurt, either. 

When is the last time you gave me 110%?
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Sumela » 30 Jan 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: You make valid points for sure.
Im not sure he believes anything can change by voting.  I dont.
I think LowIQ just likes to highlight how we got here and what could have been better.
I may be wrong.
Yes, precisely. Voting is meaningless at this point. The problem was never the politicians, repulsive most of them may be (are).

Trying to vote your way out of this **** is exactly what [[[THEY]]] want you to think is some kind of solution.
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