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Give me self-determination or give me death (part 1)

Self-determination or death! Whether we fight or not, all of us are going to die someday. So we must stop fearing death. That's why I say, "Give me self-determination or give me death"...

This is how disgusting, evil, victim-blaming and gaslighting those Conservatives are (for the overturning of Roe V.Wade, they blame Democrats who have been fighting for reproductive freedom since like forever, they blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg, they blame rape-victims, etc, they blame everyone they want to attack except looking at themselves in the mirror and holding Trump accountable):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLz0QuU2s-I

Also, some of us are fed up with sell-out Democrats who keep enabling the radical Right-Wingers, we're sick and tired of them, they do nothing to restore Roe. V. Wade or to end the genocide against the Palestinian people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG5K5qOFZL0

At least some of them Conservatives are honest enough to say that Trump is at fault and that it's disgusting that he's boasting and bragging about taking away a woman's right to choose or a woman's right to get a life-saving/health-saving abortion for a little daughter who was raped and impregnated by an adult four times her size (Conservatives want to force little girls age 6 years old through 14 years old to have their pedo rapists' babies, they were furious that this tiny 10 years old rape victim in Ohio was able to go to another state with her parents to get a life-saving abortion*, little girls and adult women too for that matter should not be treated like property, cattle, broodmare for the state and baby-making machines for misogynistic pigs and females have the right to say no to motherhood, especially if they are under the age of 18 seeing as they can't even give legal meaningful consent to sex with adults and that would mean that they were raped and had no say and no control over in what was done with their bodies). But they'll still probably vote for him anyways. That's what they do.

* See those seven videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnjv6JQoIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIExtv09SSg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jl4776d74U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmai2HYevKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiQ8s5wf0BA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o8CmPf379U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtKRzGO4kSk

And also as you can see here, the overwhelming majority of people who get caught in the act of grooming and raping children in the United-States of America are Conservative, Republican, Right-Wingers and they support things like child marriage, child pregnancy, and deadly abortion bans, as well as child labor and child exploitation:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... GdUcBaj0Z5

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 5hSufAUMPU

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... YIaUmKhmec

And yet, Conservatives have the nerve and the audacity to talk about radical Islamists and radical Judaists, that's the pot calling the kettle black, those radical-Right/far-Right Conservative "Christians" are really no better. With American Conservatives (most of which are WHITE as you already know) it's all hypocrisy and projection, everything they accuse the Left of being (starting with stereotyping ALL LGBT people or ALL Left-Wingers as "groomers", "child sexualizers", "child molesters", "pedo creeps" etc, merely for letting kids know that LGBT people exist, that there's nothing wrong with being different and that LGBT people are human beings and people too who are deserving of the same human dignity, justice and equality as everyone else) they embody it, and their every accusation is a confession or an admission.

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Give me self-determination or give me death (part 2)

It's American and Canadian "prolifers" who turned me pro-choice. After I realized how hypocritical and lacking in empathy "pro-lifers" are and how they want to cut or ban social programs that help poor, sick and disabled children and their parents like; neo-natal care, child care, daycare, welfare, food stamps, headstart, school lunch, etc. They accuse every single person who want to improve the lives of those poor, sick and disabled children "commies" and say that those lazy parasite infants should go get a job and pull themselves up by their bootstraps, that's how they talk about little kids age 1 year old through 14 years old.

Those hosts are telling it like it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BVduowVyRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6t2cYW5h88

Also, look at this radical-Right sociopathic monster Rush Limbaugh who said that little children who are poor should just go dumspter dive and we should just stop feeding them and there's that nasty sack of **** Cresent Hady who said that disabled children are "a drain of society" which makes a lot of children who hear that growing up feel like burden and make them feel suicidal, I was one of the disabled kids who heard that growing up and made six suicide attempts before I even reached the age of 12, that's how evil Conservatives are, they will attack children over disability they never **** chose or asked to be born with and seek to make them feel like burdens and like they don't belong, it's pure evil what those Conservatives do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX2ewFKlh3k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxZ77ikCmJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kS6pb_kVM

Also, those radical-Right "Christian" savages attacked an 11 years old child, his dead mother, his grandmother because they were trying to improve health care and make it more affordable so there aren't so many people who die in the US because they can't afford health care and so that less children have to grow up orphaned from losing their parents to some curable disease and they even made fun of a dirt poor woman who was forced to use her decease sister's artificial denture because she couldn't afford her own, that makes me seethe with rage and I'm with Mike Malloy when he said that a day of reckoning if coming and that the radical-Right will pay for their lack of empathy and all the horrific suffering and deaths they have cause to so many children and adults:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3ggyVD0x-w

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Oh geeeezzzz.

This **** again...

 

Give me self-determination or give me death (part 3)

American and Conservative "prolifers" turned me pro-choice. They never cared about life. It was never about "saving babies" (they call clusters of cell the size of a peanut with no brain and no nervous system and barely more sentient than a plant "babies" when in fact there's a reason we call them "embryos" and "fetuses" and NOT "babies" and there's a reason the census doesn't count them or that we don't do funerals for "embryos" and "fetuses", that's because they are NOT people and they don't have right, those clusters of cell might one day become viable outside of the womb but at that stage they are not yet people nor do they have rights and clusters of cells don't have rights that supercede a woman's or a girl's rights over her own body), it's always been about punishing women and teenage girls for having a sexulity/sex life because they're misogynistic pigs who want to call the shots and decide when, how, why and with who women can have sex.

And they want to start a Jane Crow era so they can monitor, surveillance, stalk, control and police women's bodies and jail or execute women for exercising her right to make her own health care decisions and her own decisions about her own body, her own health, her own life, and her own future, or making similar decisions for their little daughters who were raped and impregnated by child predators, to safeguard and guarantee their little daughters' lives, health, and future.

Conservatives are even against abortion in cases of INCEST/RAPE. Even animals are hardwire by nature to avoid incest like the plague because they know it will cause horrific birth defects and eventually lead their species to extinction, yet radical-Right incest-loving freaks want to force women and girls who are victims of incest and incest family hirtory to have incest babies and their stupid-*** excuse is "less than 1% of abortion is because of incest" and as many pro-choicers said, "go tell little girls who were raped and impregnanted by their dads, uncles, brothers, cousins, etc, that they don't **** matter because they are less than 1% of the population when we **** know that little girls shouldn't be having babies at that age because it could kill them or cause ireversible damage to their bodies in the very slim likelyhood that they survive, damage including bone problems, disjointed hips, weak bladder and infertility which means they wouldn't be able to have children later in life as adults, that is child cruelty and child abuse and Conservatives are re-victimizing those little girls).

Conservatives don't even want abortion in case of fatal defects in the fetus and they don't care if the baby suffers horribly and that the mother has to give birth to a suffering baby who will die an hour or two after it's born in its mother's arms and that they forced those women to give birth just so they can burry their babies an hour or two later when the merciful thing to do is let the mother decide to end the pregnancy so she can spare her baby and herself unecessary suffering and agony.

See this:

https://www.statnews.com/2019/01/07/dev ... risomy-18/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS-BzFDOmq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTY_2GvtE9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXkXf79bw48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQDQO73HQw

And this is just a few examples.

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Give me self-determination or give me death (part 4, final part)

Women and girls are people, they're not **** toys, they're not **** property, and they're not **** baby-making machines. They have the right to control their own bodies. They have the right to bodily autonomy, self-ownership and self-determination. They have the right to make their own decisions about their own bodies, their own health, their own lives and their own future. They have the right to get abortions for their little daughters who were raped and impregnated by child predators to safeguard and guarantee their little daughters' lives, health and future. They have the right to bodily/sexual and financial autonomy.

They have the right enter the work force, earn their own money, inherit property, get divorced, and escape an abusive, violent and toxic relationships (for the record, I also believe that men should have the right to leave abusive, violent and toxic relationships with violent, abusive wives, not one regardless of their gender or race or status should be forced to stay in a violent and abusive relationship, they have the right to leave and no one should have the right to force them to stay in a violent and abusive relationship or environment, and I condemn female on male domestic violence and female on female domestic violence and female on male rape and female on female rape just as much as I condemn male on female domestic violence and male on female rape, because I'm **** consistent like this and unlike some people I believe in true justice and true equality for all, not justice and equality for only one gender, and that includes justice for all victims of domestic violence and rape regardless of their perpetrators' gender).

I will never stop fighting for reproductive rights and reproductive freedom for cis and trans women and genderfluid/non-binary people. Because if you can't exercise your right over your own bodies then you have no freedom, that is not freedom, that is slavery and tyranny.

I also support people's right to die, medical assistance in dying, dying with dignity, voluntary euthanasia, because I've seen horrific suffering and I believe people should have the right to choose and to make that decision for themselves not the government. When animals suffer, we euthanize them. When human beings suffer horribly and they have very little to no quality of life or no hope that they will heal or get better, we force them to live no matter how much pain and agony they're in, and we even practice medical relentlessness which is horrible, there's even articles online such as "Very premature infants andmedical relentlessness" which is something that no one sane wants to think about because of how **** awful it is.

And far as I'm concerned bodily autonomy/self-determination as well as first amendment rights for all are causes worth fighting and dying for.

Conservative ideology is a death cult and a cancer on society.

One of many angry and disgusted LGBT and pro-choice Canadian Non-Partisan/Independent Christians.

RedheadedStranger » 10 Feb 2024, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:35 am

Oh geeeezzzz.

This **** again...

If you don't care about basic civil rights like bodily autonomy and self-determination like the right to get an abortion or the right to get medical aid in dying if you suffer horribly and have very little to no quality of life, that's your own **** problem and no one is forcing you to participate in the discussion, but keep your **** nasty remarks to yourself and don't portray people who care about those important causes as being crazy.

  back at you.

STFU and let others who care about basic civil rights like bodily autonomy and self-determination have their discussions without having to put up with your nasty and disrespectful remarks. If you have nothing to bring to the convesation, just don't say anything. Show basic respect to people who care about real **** issues that need to be adressed. Also, it's not just for you, miss or mister entitled. The world doesn't revolve around you. But hey, maybe I'm asking too much from someone who has been irreversibly brainwashed by the radical-Right and if you don't care about losing your basic civil rights at least stop attacking people who care with snide remarks. Next time I see personal attacks like this, I'm reporting it to the mods. I've had it with personal attacks and strawmen. You're trying to shot down conversations about real and important issues that need to be adressed and that is not an okay thing to do on a public forum. No one is forcing you to read it or participate in the conversation. If you don't like it just don't click on it and read it and then get all triggered and offended about it like the triggered Right-Wing snowflake that you are.

Speaking of triggered radical-Right snowflakes like Trump and his supporters, they're just as vile and pathetic as triggered radical-Left snowflakes (and I despise them regardless of their political affiliation):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... kOoPhhLzGD

This is one of many reasons why I'm proud to be Non-Partisan/Independent and I will never apologize for that.

What in the freaking world happened to my previous posts in this thread? Why are the letters in the text so tiny? I tried to change the size of the letters but I try to save my changes it doesn't seem to work. Anybody can tell me how to fix this? I made several posts on here in the few weeks and this has NEVER happened to me before. And I want to fix it. So if someone could tell me how.
 

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:56 am

What in the freaking world happened to my previous posts in this thread? Why are the letters in the text so tiny? I tried to change the size of the letters but I try to save my changes it doesn't seem to work. Anybody can tell me how to fix this? I made several posts on here in the few weeks and this has NEVER happened to me before. And I want to fix it. So if someone could tell me how.

That happens when someone down votes your posts.

Sucks huh?

 
 
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 Feb 2024, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:35 am

Oh geeeezzzz.

This **** again...

let me know when you run out of reddies- I'll take over. LOL
 

sootedupCyndi » 10 Feb 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:03 am

let me know when you run out of reddies- I'll take over. LOL

I'm out...

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 Feb 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:03 am

That happens when someone down votes your posts.

Sucks huh?

 ****. You're making **** up. No one downvoted my posts in this thread, only you. But nice try. Just 'cause you don't want to participate in an important discussion on real civilr rights issues doesn't give you the right to speak for others and to make **** up about font size like that. I've asked help from the mod and I'm also going to report your personal attacks and your attempts to shut down conversations.

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am

 ****. You're making **** up. No one downvoted my posts in this thread, only you. But nice try. Just 'cause you don't want to participate in an important discussion on real civilr rights issues doesn't give you the right to speak for others and to make **** up about font size like that. I've asked help from the mod and I'm also going to report your personal attacks and your attempts to shut down conversations.

By all means... help yourself.

 
 

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am

Give me self-determination or give me death (part 1)

Self-determination or death! Whether we fight or not, all of us are going to die someday. So we must stop fearing death. That's why I say, "Give me self-determination or give me death"...

This is how disgusting, evil, victim-blaming and gaslighting those Conservatives are (for the overturning of Roe V.Wade, they blame Democrats who have been fighting for reproductive freedom since like forever, they blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg, they blame rape-victims, etc, they blame everyone they want to attack except looking at themselves in the mirror and holding Trump accountable):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLz0QuU2s-I

Also, some of us are fed up with sell-out Democrats who keep enabling the radical Right-Wingers, we're sick and tired of them, they do nothing to restore Roe. V. Wade or to end the genocide against the Palestinian people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG5K5qOFZL0

At least some of them Conservatives are honest enough to say that Trump is at fault and that it's disgusting that he's boasting and bragging about taking away a woman's right to choose or a woman's right to get a life-saving/health-saving abortion for a little daughter who was raped and impregnated by an adult four times her size (Conservatives want to force little girls age 6 years old through 14 years old to have their pedo rapists' babies, they were furious that this tiny 10 years old rape victim in Ohio was able to go to another state with her parents to get a life-saving abortion*, little girls and adult women too for that matter should not be treated like property, cattle, broodmare for the state and baby-making machines for misogynistic pigs and females have the right to say no to motherhood, especially if they are under the age of 18 seeing as they can't even give legal meaningful consent to sex with adults and that would mean that they were raped and had no say and no control over in what was done with their bodies). But they'll still probably vote for him anyways. That's what they do.

 

 
 

reciting mantra used for thousands of years corrupting each great great grandchild added forward here. Your mind is made up that your social identity is more important than life itself actually limited to ancestries being eternally separate lifetimes now.

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am

 ****. You're making **** up. No one downvoted my posts in this thread, only you. But nice try. Just 'cause you don't want to participate in an important discussion on real civilr rights issues doesn't give you the right to speak for others and to make **** up about font size like that. I've asked help from the mod and I'm also going to report your personal attacks and your attempts to shut down conversations.

Tsk, tsk, I saw you messed with font sizes too and attempted to shut down the conversation on your trolling.. you're lucky I'm not a snitch so I won't report you for that but it doesn't look good on your record..

 

 

Jantje_Smit » 10 Feb 2024, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:28 am

Tsk, tsk, I saw you messed with font sizes too and attempted to shut down the conversation on your trolling.. you're lucky I'm not a snitch so I won't report you for that but it doesn't look good on your record..

 

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 Feb 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:08 am

By all means... help yourself.

         

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 10:07 am

 ****. You're making **** up. No one downvoted my posts in this thread, only you. But nice try. Just 'cause you don't want to participate in an important discussion on real civilr rights issues doesn't give you the right to speak for others and to make **** up about font size like that. I've asked help from the mod and I'm also going to report your personal attacks and your attempts to shut down conversations.

You have credibilty issues .....
because you don't participate in conversations .....
I asked you where in Canada are you from .....
Who did you vote for ...
and Why are you dragging Canada into this abortion fight when abortion in Canada is completely legal in all provinces ......?
You claim you want to have a conversation ....let's start there ....



 

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am

Give me self-determination or give me death (part 1)

Self-determination or death! Whether we fight or not, all of us are going to die someday. So we must stop fearing death. That's why I say, "Give me self-determination or give me death"...

This is how disgusting, evil, victim-blaming and gaslighting those Conservatives are (for the overturning of Roe V.Wade,
 

Mimi....As a Conservative I might be the exception, but I certainly DO HOPE you die childless and unloved.
I would donate to an abortion fund if I was certain that the *** running the fund weren't going to use my donation to by drugs and spinner rims for their Cadillac Escalades.
I don't want people like you having children and adding to our already **** up Gene Pool..
The Globalist Social Engineers who made your mind what it is today conditioned your generation to have less desire to mate and to have kids 
Keep smoking those blunts and "getting your groove on" with your unprotected Monkey Sex Mimi....your Man Ape ancestors would be very proud.
Thank God we had easy peezy abortion for as many years as we did otherwise the Negro population would be more like 25% of the USA instead of *only" 13%
I would gladly hand you a gift certificate for a FREE KFC PARTY BUCKET if you sent me a recent "proof of death certificate" from your nearby abortion clinic.
That's how committed I am to supporting your efforts to die childless, unwanted or needed.     



 
 

Mimi » 10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024, 9:32 am

Give me self-determination or give me death (part 1)

Self-determination or death! Whether we fight or not, all of us are going to die someday. So we must stop fearing death. That's why I say, "Give me self-determination or give me death"...

This is how disgusting, evil, victim-blaming and gaslighting those Conservatives are (for the overturning of Roe V.Wade, they blame Democrats who have been fighting for reproductive freedom since like forever, they blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg, they blame rape-victims, etc, they blame everyone they want to attack except looking at themselves in the mirror and holding Trump accountable):


 

Here's an idea, if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant.

It's 2024, not 1624.   Contraception is practically free, effective and so easy to use, even a liberal can do it. 

 

Man. @R. Suave  . This guy's TDS is worse than yours. 

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