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golfboy » 12 Feb 2024, 11:06 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2024, 11:06 pm

Yea, you think you know everything, but you don't. 
*******.

I know that 2000 Mules is a propaganda hit piece.

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 8:02 am

I know that 2000 Mules is a propaganda hit piece.

Kinda like MSNBC ?

RebelGator » 13 Feb 2024, 7:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 7:40 am

4 lies.....one paragraph.

Impressive for someone who never lies.

all true.

maineman » 12 Feb 2024, 10:22 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2024, 10:22 pm

Yeah... because no one would ever doubt for a moment that America would jump at the chance to vote for a guy with 91 felony criminal counts against him - and who knows how many convictions by November - and a guy who promised to be a dictator on the first day of his next term... and now, a guy who encouraged Putin to attack our allies if they didn't pay full freight at NATO.... yeah...that same guy that we pistol-whipped at the polls four years ago before he'd said and done ANY of that happy ****.      

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral College margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.
 
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral Margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.

He promised to be a dictator?

Can you show us that ?
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral Margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.

According to you...
Trump called dead soldiers losers...
But no proof

Trump also called Nazis good people
But no proof..

Also, you stated Russian Collusion, pee tapes and insurrection..

Nothing
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral College margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.

1. Yes, he does ....and which are viewed by most people as being political persecution with no merit .....Fact.
Also, most of those charges all hinge on A President having No  Presidential immunity ...even after he leaves office .....
Do you really believe the SCOTUS  will turn our political system into a circus show and setting a dangerous precedent for all future presidents including Biden  by ruling against presidential immunity ?
ask your daughter what would happen if that were to occur .....LMAO....

2. Yes, he did....but context matters ....he stated he would sign 2 executive orders ...how many did Biden sign on his first day?
again ...LMAO@You....

3. Yes, he did say that .....but again context matters .....If they don' pay their dues they don't get our security umbrella ....and will have to deal with Russia all by themselves .
Which is the way it should be ....
4. None  of what you stated regarding the 2020 election is undisputed fact.
and that's a fact.
Americans are disputing it every day ....
and you have no definitive  federal investigation into the 2020 election that can back up your supposed fact .







 

Majik » 13 Feb 2024, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 10:15 am

1. Yes, he does ....and which are viewed by most people as being political persecution with no merit .....Fact.
Also, most of those charges all hinge on A President having No  Presidential immunity ...even after he leaves office .....
Do you really believe the SCOTUS  will turn our political system into a circus show and setting a dangerous precedent for all future presidents including Biden  by ruling against presidential immunity ?
ask your daughter what would happen if that were to occur .....LMAO....

2. Yes, he did....but context matters ....he stated he would sign 2 executive orders ...how many did Biden sign on his first day?
again ...LMAO@You....

3. Yes, he did say that .....but again context matters .....If they don' pay their dues they don't get our security umbrella ....and will have to deal with Russia all by themselves .
Which is the way it should be ....
4. None  of what you stated regarding the 2020 election is undisputed fact.
and that's a fact.
Americans are disputing it every day ....
and you have no definitive  federal investigation into the 2020 election that can back up your supposed fact .

1.  How you view the indictments is irrelevant.  How a jury of his peers views them is all that matters
2.  I do not believe that ANYONE is above the law.  The clown's own lawyers tried to argue in court that he could use Seal Team Six to assassinate his political rivals, and, unless first impeached by the house and convicted by a 2/3 vote of the senate, he would be immune from criminal prosecution.  My daughter spit out her coffee when she heard that.
3.  He INVITED Putin to attack our allies  And you support that.  You are, therefore, a lawless thug.
4.  All of what I stated regarding 2020 is a fact. Sore losers like you continue to dispute the facts. Really sad.  There is no constitutional requirement for the feds to investigate how states run their own elections.  fact.
 
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 10:31 am

1.  How you view the indictments is irrelevant.  How a jury of his peers views them is all that matters
2.  I do not believe that ANYONE is above the law.  The clown's own lawyers tried to argue in court that he could use Seal Team Six to assassinate his political rivals, and, unless first impeached by the house and convicted by a 2/3 vote of the senate, he would be immune from criminal prosecution.  My daughter spit out her coffee when she heard that.
3.  He INVITED Putin to attack our allies  And you support that.  You are, therefore, a lawless thug.
4.  All of what I stated regarding 2020 is a fact. Sore losers like you continue to dispute the facts. Really sad.  There is no constitutional requirement for the feds to investigate how states run their own elections.  fact.

You're really the hypocrite..

No one is above the law?

But called the woman that died in Ted Kennedy's car a "slut" and Kennedy did nothing wrong?
And Hillary having classified documents on her computer wasn't a big deal?

I have much, much more
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 10:31 am

1.  How you view the indictments is irrelevant.  How a jury of his peers views them is all that matters
2.  I do not believe that ANYONE is above the law.  The clown's own lawyers tried to argue in court that he could use Seal Team Six to assassinate his political rivals, and, unless first impeached by the house and convicted by a 2/3 vote of the senate, he would be immune from criminal prosecution.  My daughter spit out her coffee when she heard that.
3.  He INVITED Putin to attack our allies  And you support that.  You are, therefore, a lawless thug.
4.  All of what I stated regarding 2020 is a fact. Sore losers like you continue to dispute the facts. Really sad.  There is no constitutional requirement for the feds to investigate how states run their own elections.  fact.

1  No, it's all relevant .....especially politically ...
2 The SCOTUS will rule that President's have immunity both while in office and out of office for things done while in office ......
Because it's the only way to protect the role of President in our political system.
and you have a lot of nerve stating that no one is above the law ..not even president's ....because now you can tell me how Obama and Hillary should be in jail for murder for unlawful drone strikes killing innocent civilians , or Biden giving weaponry to Israel to kill innocent Palestinians .....
The list goes on and on and on ....
Let me hear you say that Obama and Hillary should be in prison ....lol.
3  What law ?....there is no law that states we must protect anybody that doesn't pay .....link.
4 no, it's your rhetoric. ...but in reality 40% of Americans don't agree with you ....lol.






 

maineman » 12 Feb 2024, 10:28 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2024, 10:28 pm

absolutely.  no court in America is going to disallow the votes of lawfully registered voters who cast their ballots according to the published rules.  

and you're  **** crazy to think otherwise.

Quit **** around states 

maineman » 12 Feb 2024, 10:28 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2024, 10:28 pm

absolutely.  no court in America is going to disallow the votes of lawfully registered voters who cast their ballots according to the published rules.  

and you're  **** crazy to think otherwise.

No court is going to disallow votes?

But at the same time you want to remove Trump from the ballot?

Have you ever thought before you type?
 

BooRadley » 13 Feb 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 10:35 am

Ted Kennedy


I have much, much more

Uh oh.


 
 

BuckNaked » 13 Feb 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 12:03 pm

Quit **** around states

I promise I won't.  I also swear that I haven't.

and, in 2020, it wasn't some national organization **** around the states, it was state officials altering voting rules, in good faith, in an effort to protect the public health.
 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 2:26 pm

I promise I won't.  I also swear that I haven't.

and, in 2020, it wasn't some national organization **** around the states, it was state officials altering voting rules, in good faith, in an effort to protect the public health.

they did not follow the states constitution 

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral College margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.

Do your facts come to you in fortune cookies?

I think your biggest problems are ones of context and nuance.....it would probably help if you had a sense of humor.

I stand by my assessment of your original post, trying to explain what a fact is versus hyperbole to you is just a waste of time.

Jesus often used parables to illustrate a point, would you hold Donald Trump to a more rigorous and intractable recanting?

maineman » 13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

just to recap for cletis, AKA @RebelGator  

1.  Donald Trump does indeed have 91 criminal counts filed against him.  That is an undisputed fact.
2. Donald Trump did indeed promise to be a dictator on day one of his presidency.  That is an undisputed fact.
3.  Donald Trump did indeed encourage Vladimir Putin to attack NATO countries that were in arrears with their NATO dues.  That is an undisputed fact.
4.  Donald Trump did indeed lose the presidency in 2020 by the same Electoral College margin that he won by four years earlier and, at THAT time he declared it a "landslide".  That is an undisputed fact.
 
 


 

Let's see....

1.  Yup, but the old saying is a good DA can get the grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.  Let me know when you have convictions.

2.  He did not promise to be a dictator. It is not an undisputed fact.  He was joking with Sean Hannity, answering a question.  He said he would be a dictator on two specific issues on the first day.  Drill baby Drill and immigration.  He meant he was going to reimplement his policies that Biden overturned.  So if by implementing them makes him a dictator that means BIDEN was a dictator by overturning them.


“Except for day one,” the GOP front-runner said Tuesday night before a live audience in Davenport, Iowa. “I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.”

“We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannit ... 9%E2%80%9D

 3.  You can say that but I wouldn't argue it.

4.  That's nice.  
 

Huey » 13 Feb 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 3:39 pm

Let's see....

1.  Yup, but the old saying is a good DA can get the grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.  Let me know when you have convictions.

2.  He did not promise to be a dictator. It is not an undisputed fact.  He was joking with Sean Hannity, answering a question.  He said he would be a dictator on two specific issues on the first day.  Drill baby Drill and immigration.  He meant he was going to reimplement his policies that Biden overturned.  So if by implementing them makes him a dictator that means BIDEN was a dictator by overturning them.

“Except for day one,” the GOP front-runner said Tuesday night before a live audience in Davenport, Iowa. “I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.”

“We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannit ... 9%E2%80%9D

 3.  You can say that but I wouldn't argue it.

4.  That's nice.

Maineman still says Trump said "Nazis are good people"
 

BuckNaked » 13 Feb 2024, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 2:58 pm

they did not follow the states constitution

and their courts agreed with you and the remedies were all proscriptive.

case closed.

move along now.

BooRadley » 13 Feb 2024, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Feb 2024, 4:36 pm

Maineman still says Trump said "Nazis are good people"

Hopefully I will see it when he does.